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thompnickson2

PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

Dear Phellow Phriammers,

Is this eyecandy, or should I take it seriously?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gQutQQiuAI&feature=youtu.be

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Frank Wimberly-2

Re: PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

You should take it seriously but I'm biased. I don't think PSC let's its supercomputers be used for eye candy. They didn't when I worked there and they were accountable to NSF.

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On Wed, May 13, 2020, 3:26 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Dear Phellow Phriammers,
Is this eyecandy, or should I take it seriously?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gQutQQiuAI&feature=youtu.be
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Stephen Guerin-5

Re: PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

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Eye candy in the good sense.

Frank, have you heard of the Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center? (DOH you beat me)

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On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 3:26 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

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Marcus G. Daniels

Re: PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

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Ha, a code that can’t easily create eye candy is a code that is riddled with bugs.

From: Friam <[hidden email]> on behalf of Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]>
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To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

You should take it seriously but I'm biased. I don't think PSC let's its supercomputers be used for eye candy. They didn't when I worked there and they were accountable to NSF.

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Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
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505 670-9918
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On Wed, May 13, 2020, 3:26 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Dear Phellow Phriammers,

Is this eyecandy, or should I take it seriously?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gQutQQiuAI&feature=youtu.be

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Frank Wimberly-2

Re: PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

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Did you know it was a division of the larger Center?

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On Wed, May 13, 2020, 3:37 PM Stephen Guerin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Eye candy in the good sense.

Frank, have you heard of the Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center? (DOH you beat me)

-S
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gepr

Re: PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

In reply to this post by Frank Wimberly-2

I disagree completely. Right there in the description we see 2 layers of prestidigitation: "Numerically simulated" and "Visualized". Then when we click on the psc link, we get a 404 error. This is akin to a magician sawing a woman in half on stage. Unless you see the *numbers* (since it's "numerically simulated") and unless you see whatever is being "visualized", you should definitely not take it seriously.

On 5/13/20 2:35 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:

> You should take it seriously but I'm biased. I don't think PSC let's its
> supercomputers be used for eye candy. They didn't when I worked there and
> they were accountable to NSF.
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2020, 3:26 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Dear Phellow Phriammers,
>>
>> Is this eyecandy, or should I take it seriously?
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gQutQQiuAI&feature=youtu.be

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thompnickson2

Re: PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

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Thanks, Frank.

NIck

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From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:35 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

You should take it seriously but I'm biased. I don't think PSC let's its supercomputers be used for eye candy. They didn't when I worked there and they were accountable to NSF.

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
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On Wed, May 13, 2020, 3:26 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Dear Phellow Phriammers,
Is this eyecandy, or should I take it seriously?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gQutQQiuAI&feature=youtu.be
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Edward Angel

Re: PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

In reply to this post by Frank Wimberly-2

Look at Donna Cox’s site at NCSA http://avl.ncsa.illinois.edu/who-we-are/team/donna-cox-director

She’s been doing tornado simulations for over 15 years. We worked with her to put the simulation in planetarium dome. It’s much more impressive when you put the viewer in the middle of the tornado and immersed in it in the planetarium.

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On May 13, 2020, at 3:35 PM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

You should take it seriously but I'm biased. I don't think PSC let's its supercomputers be used for eye candy. They didn't when I worked there and they were accountable to NSF.

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Wed, May 13, 2020, 3:26 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear Phellow Phriammers,
Is this eyecandy, or should I take it seriously?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gQutQQiuAI&feature=youtu.be
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Frank Wimberly-2

Re: PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

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Let me revise that a little bit. There was a visualization of the rider's view of a roller coaster ride that ran on a Cray supercomputer. The purpose was to demonstrate the capability and speed of a Lisp-based 3D renderer called Plot-3D or P3D or something similar. Do you know what I'm talking about, Ed?

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505 670-9918
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On Wed, May 13, 2020, 5:31 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks, Frank.

NIck

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
[hidden email]
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:35 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

You should take it seriously but I'm biased. I don't think PSC let's its supercomputers be used for eye candy. They didn't when I worked there and they were accountable to NSF.
---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
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On Wed, May 13, 2020, 3:26 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear Phellow Phriammers,
Is this eyecandy, or should I take it seriously?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gQutQQiuAI&feature=youtu.be
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Angel Edward

Re: PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

I vaguely remember plot 3d. No one renders today the way it did. Cray was less than a PC with a decent graphics card.

__________

Ed Angel

Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

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On May 13, 2020, at 5:51 PM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

Let me revise that a little bit. There was a visualization of the rider's view of a roller coaster ride that ran on a Cray supercomputer. The purpose was to demonstrate the capability and speed of a Lisp-based 3D renderer called Plot-3D or P3D or something similar. Do you know what I'm talking about, Ed?

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Wed, May 13, 2020, 5:31 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks, Frank.

NIck

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
[hidden email]
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:35 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

You should take it seriously but I'm biased. I don't think PSC let's its supercomputers be used for eye candy. They didn't when I worked there and they were accountable to NSF.
---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Wed, May 13, 2020, 3:26 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear Phellow Phriammers,
Is this eyecandy, or should I take it seriously?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gQutQQiuAI&feature=youtu.be
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Marcus G. Daniels

Re: PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

Check out that WaPost article for the state-of-the-art. (The new Unreal Engine.)

From: Friam <[hidden email]> on behalf of Angel Edward <[hidden email]>
Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 4:58 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

I vaguely remember plot 3d. No one renders today the way it did. Cray was less than a PC with a decent graphics card.

On May 13, 2020, at 5:51 PM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

Let me revise that a little bit. There was a visualization of the rider's view of a roller coaster ride that ran on a Cray supercomputer. The purpose was to demonstrate the capability and speed of a Lisp-based 3D renderer called Plot-3D or P3D or something similar. Do you know what I'm talking about, Ed?

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Wed, May 13, 2020, 5:31 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks, Frank.

NIck

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

[hidden email]

https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:35 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

You should take it seriously but I'm biased. I don't think PSC let's its supercomputers be used for eye candy. They didn't when I worked there and they were accountable to NSF.

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Wed, May 13, 2020, 3:26 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Dear Phellow Phriammers,

Is this eyecandy, or should I take it seriously?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gQutQQiuAI&feature=youtu.be

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Frank Wimberly-2

Re: PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

In reply to this post by Angel Edward

A modern PC. I worked there in the early 90s.

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505 670-9918
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On Wed, May 13, 2020, 5:58 PM Angel Edward <[hidden email]> wrote:

I vaguely remember plot 3d. No one renders today the way it did. Cray was less than a PC with a decent graphics card.

Ed

__________

Ed Angel

Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

1017 Sierra Pinon
Santa Fe, NM 87501
505-984-0136 (home) [hidden email]
505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel

On May 13, 2020, at 5:51 PM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

Let me revise that a little bit. There was a visualization of the rider's view of a roller coaster ride that ran on a Cray supercomputer. The purpose was to demonstrate the capability and speed of a Lisp-based 3D renderer called Plot-3D or P3D or something similar. Do you know what I'm talking about, Ed?

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Wed, May 13, 2020, 5:31 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks, Frank.

NIck

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
[hidden email]
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:35 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

You should take it seriously but I'm biased. I don't think PSC let's its supercomputers be used for eye candy. They didn't when I worked there and they were accountable to NSF.
---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Wed, May 13, 2020, 3:26 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear Phellow Phriammers,
Is this eyecandy, or should I take it seriously?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gQutQQiuAI&feature=youtu.be
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jon zingale

Re: PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

In reply to this post by thompnickson2

All,

Up from the 36 Chambers and in the spirit of Marcus,

Tornado Visualization. Now with more Wu-Tang!

Jon

thompnickson2

Re: PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

In reply to this post by Marcus G. Daniels

Marcus,

Can you explain why the basic unit is a triangle?

Any Peircean would LOVE it.

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

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From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 6:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

Check out that WaPost article for the state-of-the-art. (The new Unreal Engine.)

I vaguely remember plot 3d. No one renders today the way it did. Cray was less than a PC with a decent graphics card.

On May 13, 2020, at 5:51 PM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

Let me revise that a little bit. There was a visualization of the rider's view of a roller coaster ride that ran on a Cray supercomputer. The purpose was to demonstrate the capability and speed of a Lisp-based 3D renderer called Plot-3D or P3D or something similar. Do you know what I'm talking about, Ed?
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On Wed, May 13, 2020, 5:31 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks, Frank.

NIck

Nicholas Thompson
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From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

You should take it seriously but I'm biased. I don't think PSC let's its supercomputers be used for eye candy. They didn't when I worked there and they were accountable to NSF.
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thompnickson2

Re: PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

In reply to this post by jon zingale

OK, so what I got from the original visualization, which I have never grasped before is that a tornado is at the core of a double helix with the warm air rising (usually) in a counter-clockwise direction and evacuating at the top and the cold descending in a clockwise direction and evacuating at the bottom. That there could be so little friction between the two types of air just amazes me, but it confirms something that Roger tried to explain to me many years ago.

Nick

Nicholas Thompson

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From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Jon Zingale
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To: [hidden email]; Nata Bocchicchio <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

All,

Up from the 36 Chambers and in the spirit of Marcus,

Tornado Visualization. Now with more Wu-Tang!

Jon

Frank Wimberly-2

Re: PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

In reply to this post by thompnickson2

I'm not Marcus but in finite element analysis the discretization of a 2 dimensional region is always done with triangles. It's much more flexible than rectangular grids, to oversimplify.

Frank

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On Wed, May 13, 2020, 7:13 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Marcus,

Can you explain why the basic unit is a triangle?

Any Peircean would LOVE it.

n

Nicholas Thompson
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[hidden email]
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From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 6:00 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

Check out that WaPost article for the state-of-the-art. (The new Unreal Engine.)

From: Friam <[hidden email]> on behalf of Angel Edward <[hidden email]>
Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 4:58 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

I vaguely remember plot 3d. No one renders today the way it did. Cray was less than a PC with a decent graphics card.

Ed
__________

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Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

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On May 13, 2020, at 5:51 PM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

Let me revise that a little bit. There was a visualization of the rider's view of a roller coaster ride that ran on a Cray supercomputer. The purpose was to demonstrate the capability and speed of a Lisp-based 3D renderer called Plot-3D or P3D or something similar. Do you know what I'm talking about, Ed?
---
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140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
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On Wed, May 13, 2020, 5:31 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks, Frank.

NIck

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
[hidden email]
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:35 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

You should take it seriously but I'm biased. I don't think PSC let's its supercomputers be used for eye candy. They didn't when I worked there and they were accountable to NSF.
---
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505 670-9918
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On Wed, May 13, 2020, 3:26 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear Phellow Phriammers,
Is this eyecandy, or should I take it seriously?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gQutQQiuAI&feature=youtu.be
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Angel Edward

Re: PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

Because triangles are convex they are guaranteed to be rendered correctly. Every modern graphics system whether hardware or software is based on using triangles as the basic element.

On May 13, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

I'm not Marcus but in finite element analysis the discretization of a 2 dimensional region is always done with triangles. It's much more flexible than rectangular grids, to oversimplify.

Frank

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On Wed, May 13, 2020, 7:13 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:
Marcus,

Can you explain why the basic unit is a triangle?

Any Peircean would LOVE it.

n

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
[hidden email]
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 6:00 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

Check out that WaPost article for the state-of-the-art. (The new Unreal Engine.)

From: Friam <[hidden email]> on behalf of Angel Edward <[hidden email]>
Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 4:58 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

I vaguely remember plot 3d. No one renders today the way it did. Cray was less than a PC with a decent graphics card.

Ed
__________

Ed Angel

Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

1017 Sierra Pinon
Santa Fe, NM 87501
505-984-0136 (home) [hidden email]
505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel

On May 13, 2020, at 5:51 PM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

Let me revise that a little bit. There was a visualization of the rider's view of a roller coaster ride that ran on a Cray supercomputer. The purpose was to demonstrate the capability and speed of a Lisp-based 3D renderer called Plot-3D or P3D or something similar. Do you know what I'm talking about, Ed?
---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Wed, May 13, 2020, 5:31 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks, Frank.

NIck

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
[hidden email]
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:35 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

You should take it seriously but I'm biased. I don't think PSC let's its supercomputers be used for eye candy. They didn't when I worked there and they were accountable to NSF.
---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Wed, May 13, 2020, 3:26 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear Phellow Phriammers,
Is this eyecandy, or should I take it seriously?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gQutQQiuAI&feature=youtu.be
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Marcus G. Daniels

Re: PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

In reply to this post by thompnickson2

Three points are always in a plane which makes it possible to make the graphics hardware extremely simple (and parallelizable), e.g. the normals are easy to compute. There are fast tessellation algorithms to convert other 3-d shapes to triangular meshes.

From: Friam <[hidden email]> on behalf of "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
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Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:13 PM
To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

Marcus,

Can you explain why the basic unit is a triangle?

Any Peircean would LOVE it.

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

[hidden email]

https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

Check out that WaPost article for the state-of-the-art. (The new Unreal Engine.)

I vaguely remember plot 3d. No one renders today the way it did. Cray was less than a PC with a decent graphics card.

On May 13, 2020, at 5:51 PM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

Let me revise that a little bit. There was a visualization of the rider's view of a roller coaster ride that ran on a Cray supercomputer. The purpose was to demonstrate the capability and speed of a Lisp-based 3D renderer called Plot-3D or P3D or something similar. Do you know what I'm talking about, Ed?

---
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140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Wed, May 13, 2020, 5:31 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks, Frank.

NIck

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

[hidden email]

https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:35 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

You should take it seriously but I'm biased. I don't think PSC let's its supercomputers be used for eye candy. They didn't when I worked there and they were accountable to NSF.

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
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On Wed, May 13, 2020, 3:26 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Dear Phellow Phriammers,

Is this eyecandy, or should I take it seriously?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gQutQQiuAI&feature=youtu.be

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Marcus G. Daniels

Re: PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

In reply to this post by thompnickson2

With a few minutes of digging, the original video can be traced back to a simulation done by http://twister.ou.edu/ who has his publications here http://twister.ou.edu/vita.html#pubs. The video came from a different specialist in visualization, Greg Foss:

https://www.nsf.gov/news/news_images.jsp?cntn_id=134516&org=NSF

Here’s apparently a standard code used to study tornados, there’s a list of users and their publications and the governing equations. https://www2.mmm.ucar.edu/people/bryan/cm1/

Should you take any of this seriously? Well, read the papers and decide. Is it the fact there is some eye candy causing you to doubt that there is science behind it?

Marcus

From: Friam <[hidden email]> on behalf of "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 2:26 PM
To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' <[hidden email]>
Subject: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

Dear Phellow Phriammers,

Is this eyecandy, or should I take it seriously?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gQutQQiuAI&feature=youtu.be

Frank Wimberly-2

Re: PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

Irrelevant: I knew Greg Foss. He was in my group. The OU people were led by Kelvin Droegemeier who is now Trump's science advisor and Head of OTSP. But he's very smart.

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 8:29 PM Marcus Daniels <[hidden email]> wrote:

With a few minutes of digging, the original video can be traced back to a simulation done by http://twister.ou.edu/ who has his publications here http://twister.ou.edu/vita.html#pubs. The video came from a different specialist in visualization, Greg Foss:

https://www.nsf.gov/news/news_images.jsp?cntn_id=134516&org=NSF

Here’s apparently a standard code used to study tornados, there’s a list of users and their publications and the governing equations. https://www2.mmm.ucar.edu/people/bryan/cm1/

Should you take any of this seriously? Well, read the papers and decide. Is it the fact there is some eye candy causing you to doubt that there is science behind it?

Marcus

From: Friam <[hidden email]> on behalf of "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
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To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' <[hidden email]>
Subject: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

Dear Phellow Phriammers,

Is this eyecandy, or should I take it seriously?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gQutQQiuAI&feature=youtu.be

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