(short notice) Today 9/1 3p: Nina Wise and the Kepler Project

[Stephen Guerin]

Nina Wise is in town today and will discuss possible collaborations around the
Kepler Project:
http://www.motioninstitute.com/kepler/

"When Science Lost its Soul:
In the early 1600's, the seeds of modern science were planted. The earth was
removed from the center of the universe and God from the center of science.
While the severance of science from spirit furthered the scientific revolution,
many posit that something vital was lost.

We are currently on the brink of a paradigm shift of similar magnitude, which
reconnects that which has been separated. While the existence of a designer may
lay outside the purview of science, the existence of a design might lie at its
heart. By investigating the way pre-modern mind gave way to the modern, The
Kepler Project intends to cast light on the transformation that is occurring
within our own lifetimes.

Johannes Kepler was one of the world's great scientific geniuses who fully
integrated a worldview steeped in mysticism with a rigorous science based on
observation and experimentation.

"It is the secret of his union with nature that attracts all those who see
something in the universe beyond, and different from, that which rigorous
science has to offer."

-Stephen

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[Pamela McCorduck]

Time and place?

On Sep 1, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Stephen Guerin wrote:

Nina Wise is in town today and will discuss possible collaborations around the

Kepler Project:

http://www.motioninstitute.com/kepler/

"When Science Lost its Soul:

In the early 1600's, the seeds of modern science were planted. The earth was

removed from the center of the universe and God from the center of science.

While the severance of science from spirit furthered the scientific revolution,

many posit that something vital was lost.

We are currently on the brink of a paradigm shift of similar magnitude, which

reconnects that which has been separated. While the existence of a designer may

lay outside the purview of science, the existence of a design might lie at its

heart. By investigating the way pre-modern mind gave way to the modern, The

Kepler Project intends to cast light on the transformation that is occurring

within our own lifetimes.

Johannes Kepler was one of the world's great scientific geniuses who fully

integrated a worldview steeped in mysticism with a rigorous science based on

observation and experimentation.

"It is the secret of his union with nature that attracts all those who see

something in the universe beyond, and different from, that which rigorous

science has to offer."

-Stephen

--- -. .   ..-. .. ... ....   - .-- ---   ..-. .. ... ....

[hidden email]

www.Redfish.com

my del.icio.us links: http://del.icio.us/redfishgroup

624 Agua Fria Street, Santa Fe, NM 87501

mobile: [phone]

office: [phone]

London: [phone]

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[Merle Lefkoff]

Pamela,

Where's my picture of you and CV to put on the Madrona site?  Do I have
permission to pull it off your web site?  And read the attached.

Hugs,

Merle

> Time and place?
>
>
> On Sep 1, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Stephen Guerin wrote:
>
>> Nina Wise is in town today and will discuss possible collaborations
>> around the
>> Kepler Project:
>> http://www.motioninstitute.com/kepler/
>>
>> "When Science Lost its Soul:
>> In the early 1600's, the seeds of modern science were planted. The
>> earth was
>> removed from the center of the universe and God from the center of
>> science.
>> While the severance of science from spirit furthered the scientific
>> revolution,
>> many posit that something vital was lost.
>>
>> We are currently on the brink of a paradigm shift of similar
>> magnitude, which
>> reconnects that which has been separated. While the existence of a
>> designer may
>> lay outside the purview of science, the existence of a design might
>> lie at its
>> heart. By investigating the way pre-modern mind gave way to the
>> modern, The
>> Kepler Project intends to cast light on the transformation that is
>> occurring
>> within our own lifetimes.
>>
>> Johannes Kepler was one of the world's great scientific geniuses who
>> fully
>> integrated a worldview steeped in mysticism with a rigorous science
>> based on
>> observation and experimentation.
>>
>> "It is the secret of his union with nature that attracts all those
>> who see
>> something in the universe beyond, and different from, that which rigorous
>> science has to offer."
>>
>> -Stephen
>>
>> --- -. .   ..-. .. ... ....   - .-- ---   ..-. .. ... ....
>> [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>> www.Redfish.com
>> my del.icio.us links: http://del.icio.us/redfishgroup
>> 624 Agua Fria Street, Santa Fe, NM 87501
>> mobile: [phone]
>> office: [phone]
>> London: [phone]
>>
>>
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> else to amuse them."
>
> Dr. Samuel Johnson
>
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[Stephen Guerin]

> Time and place?

Oops, left that out. Nina will be at sfComplex today at 3p.

-S

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pamela McCorduck [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 11:42 AM
> To: [hidden email]; The Friday Morning Applied
> Complexity Coffee Group
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] (short notice) Today 9/1 3p: Nina Wise
> and the KeplerProject
>
> Time and place?
>
>
> On Sep 1, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Stephen Guerin wrote:
>
>
> Nina Wise is in town today and will discuss possible
> collaborations around the
> Kepler Project:
> http://www.motioninstitute.com/kepler/
>
> "When Science Lost its Soul:
> In the early 1600's, the seeds of modern science were
> planted. The earth was
> removed from the center of the universe and God from
> the center of science.
> While the severance of science from spirit furthered
> the scientific revolution,
> many posit that something vital was lost.
>
> We are currently on the brink of a paradigm shift of
> similar magnitude, which
> reconnects that which has been separated. While the
> existence of a designer may
> lay outside the purview of science, the existence of a
> design might lie at its
> heart. By investigating the way pre-modern mind gave
> way to the modern, The
> Kepler Project intends to cast light on the
> transformation that is occurring
> within our own lifetimes.
>
> Johannes Kepler was one of the world's great scientific
> geniuses who fully
> integrated a worldview steeped in mysticism with a
> rigorous science based on
> observation and experimentation.
>
> "It is the secret of his union with nature that
> attracts all those who see
> something in the universe beyond, and different from,
> that which rigorous
> science has to offer."
>
> -Stephen
>
> --- -. .   ..-. .. ... ....   - .-- ---   ..-. .. ... ....
> [hidden email]
> www.Redfish.com
> my del.icio.us links: http://del.icio.us/redfishgroup
> 624 Agua Fria Street, Santa Fe, NM 87501
> mobile: [phone]
> office: [phone]
> London: [phone]
>
>
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>
>
> "People in general do not willingly read if they can have
> anything else to amuse them."
>
> Dr. Samuel Johnson
>
>
>
>

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[Merle Lefkoff]

Oops!  Sorry Friam.  I don't mean to post my personals.  I'm working too
hard.

Merle

> Pamela,
>
> Where's my picture of you and CV to put on the Madrona site?  Do I
> have permission to pull it off your web site?  And read the attached.
>
> Hugs,
>
> Merle
>
>
>
>
>
>> Time and place?
>>
>>
>> On Sep 1, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Stephen Guerin wrote:
>>
>>> Nina Wise is in town today and will discuss possible collaborations
>>> around the
>>> Kepler Project:
>>> http://www.motioninstitute.com/kepler/
>>>
>>> "When Science Lost its Soul:
>>> In the early 1600's, the seeds of modern science were planted. The
>>> earth was
>>> removed from the center of the universe and God from the center of
>>> science.
>>> While the severance of science from spirit furthered the scientific
>>> revolution,
>>> many posit that something vital was lost.
>>>
>>> We are currently on the brink of a paradigm shift of similar
>>> magnitude, which
>>> reconnects that which has been separated. While the existence of a
>>> designer may
>>> lay outside the purview of science, the existence of a design might
>>> lie at its
>>> heart. By investigating the way pre-modern mind gave way to the
>>> modern, The
>>> Kepler Project intends to cast light on the transformation that is
>>> occurring
>>> within our own lifetimes.
>>>
>>> Johannes Kepler was one of the world's great scientific geniuses who
>>> fully
>>> integrated a worldview steeped in mysticism with a rigorous science
>>> based on
>>> observation and experimentation.
>>>
>>> "It is the secret of his union with nature that attracts all those
>>> who see
>>> something in the universe beyond, and different from, that which
>>> rigorous
>>> science has to offer."
>>>
>>> -Stephen
>>>
>>> --- -. .   ..-. .. ... ....   - .-- ---   ..-. .. ... ....
>>> [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>>> www.Redfish.com
>>> my del.icio.us links: http://del.icio.us/redfishgroup
>>> 624 Agua Fria Street, Santa Fe, NM 87501
>>> mobile: [phone]
>>> office: [phone]
>>> London: [phone]
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> "People in general do not willingly read if they can have anything
>> else to amuse them."
>>
>> Dr. Samuel Johnson
>>
>>
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[Phil Henshaw-2]

A friend mentioned Robert Rosen's 1996 essay "On the Limitations of
Scientific Knowledge".  It's in a book titled Limits of Scientific Knowledge
edited by John Casti of SFI, with nine other essays presented at a workshop
of that name held at the Swedish Academy of Sciences in 1995.  Rosen's
contribution outlined his perspective in a much simpler and clearer way than
in his more extensive treatments.  I think my 1995 theorem answers his
complaint simply.
Rosen 1995 [www.synapse9.com/ref/Rosen_On_Limitations_of_Sci.pdf]
pfh 1995 [http://www.synapse9.com/drtheo.pdf]

What I now gather to be Rosen's central complaint is that in choosing to
study the behavior of only convergent mathematical series (determinate
math), science has arbitrarily discarded the study of divergent processes.
In his observation, both emergence in complex systems and the behaviors of
life are subjects of divergent processes.  My theorem approaches the same
complaint from another side.  What I prove has to do with what is necessary
for things to begin or end, in that things that begin or end don't have a
past or future to start from or lead to.  That's a fairly clear alternate
definition of emergence, and beginning and ending is certainly the main
subject of life.

The theorem shows that for things to begin or end and avoid having infinite
energy flows at some point they need to follow divergent processes.  The
aspect of divergence that the theorem specifically identifies is the
property of having all derivative rates of change of the same sign for a
finite period.  The hard constraint that makes it necessary is that energy
flow has to be continuous by the conservation laws.  The result that things
begin with divergence leaves open a very large and useful question.  If
emergence in nature has to begin with a divergent processes, what in some
cases changes it to a convergent process later.  

That it is necessary, and simple observation makes evident it is common,
that the beginnings of isolated system events (emergence or life) is with
divergent processes (in the form of compound growth of one or another kind)
then in those cases you can then look for what sometimes changes them into
convergent processes.  Observation suggests the switch to convergence occurs
when divergent processes run into their environments, a useful scientific
result.  Perhaps science can't make use of divergent mathematics because
equations don't represent environments for themselves to run into... and
observing divergence in nature is then a clue to the need to enlarge the
system domain in question, to look outside.

If you take Rosen's complaint as being as I say, that limiting science to
the study of convergent series prevents science from studying emergence or
life, then does my proof answer his complaint 'yes' by showing a useful
result from scientifically considering them?


Best,

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