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not complexity, but

Joe Spinden
I have not seen this mentioned on the list yet, but some on this list
might find it interesting:

The Shape of Inner Space: String Theory and the Geometry of the
Universe's Hidden Dimensions, by Shing-Tung Yau and Steve Nadis

Yau has been at the center of string theory development.

Joe S



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Also not complexity, but

Eric Charles
I'll be interested to see the final media estimates of the rally in DC today. CBS estimated that Glenn Beck had 87,000. I have photographs montages from today that I estimate to have more than that, and I'm sure I couldn't see half the crowd.

Given the lack of aerial photographs, and the continuous influx and outflux of people, it must be very difficult to make a solid estimate.... hey wait, maybe this is complexity problem after all. What is the simplest data we could gather to make an estimate? Some combination of photographs and counts of people passing specific points? Hmmmm....

Eric

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Re: not complexity, but

Owen Densmore
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This does look interesting, especially after reading Smolin's book The Trouble with Physics.

I bet I like them both, even though many (wrongly) consider Smolin's book anti-string.  Its more pro-physics (at least as practiced through the 1970s).

Did you read it (Yau, not Smolin)?  Yau won the Fields medal, always a good recommendation.

    -- Owen


On Oct 30, 2010, at 9:29 AM, joseph spinden wrote:

> I have not seen this mentioned on the list yet, but some on this list might find it interesting:
>
> The Shape of Inner Space: String Theory and the Geometry of the Universe's Hidden Dimensions, by Shing-Tung Yau and Steve Nadis
>
> Yau has been at the center of string theory development.
>
> Joe S
>
>
>
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>
> "Sunlight is the best disinfectant."
>
>  -- Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis, 1913.
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Re: not complexity, but

Owen Densmore
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Sorry for the spam, but I found that "the other anti-string" book's author (Not Even Wrong, Peter Woit) has a positive review of the book:
    http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=3165

I believe this, in part, is due to the need for sophisticated geometric mathematics in non-string theories like loop quantum gravity.

Interesting to note: of the 19 reviews on Amazon, all 19 are 5-stars!

Has anyone here read it and have an opinion or insight?

    -- Owen


On Oct 30, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:

> This does look interesting, especially after reading Smolin's book The Trouble with Physics.
>
> I bet I like them both, even though many (wrongly) consider Smolin's book anti-string.  Its more pro-physics (at least as practiced through the 1970s).
>
> Did you read it (Yau, not Smolin)?  Yau won the Fields medal, always a good recommendation.
>
>    -- Owen
>
>
> On Oct 30, 2010, at 9:29 AM, joseph spinden wrote:
>
>> I have not seen this mentioned on the list yet, but some on this list might find it interesting:
>>
>> The Shape of Inner Space: String Theory and the Geometry of the Universe's Hidden Dimensions, by Shing-Tung Yau and Steve Nadis
>>
>> Yau has been at the center of string theory development.
>>
>> Joe S
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> "Sunlight is the best disinfectant."
>>
>> -- Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis, 1913.
>>
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Re: Also not complexity, but

Vladimyr Burachynsky
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Hi Eric,

 

There is a technology that can stitch enormous image files (out of Carnegie –Mellon )

Gigapan if I recall. Fast scanning could probably count individuals if the photos are

Set up properly. I recall they scanned and stitched a huge audience for Obama’s inauguration ceremony.

It may be possible for the system to work for images taken with all the cellphones. Multiple sources might do what aerial photos used to perform.

 

With time stamps on photos it should in principal be doable. I have seen 360  degree panoramas in the past that were composites or stitched.

 

 

Back to the topic however do you have links to the string theory authors.?

 

 

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Subject: [FRIAM] Also not complexity, but

 

I'll be interested to see the final media estimates of the rally in DC today. CBS estimated that Glenn Beck had 87,000. I have photographs montages from today that I estimate to have more than that, and I'm sure I couldn't see half the crowd.

Given the lack of aerial photographs, and the continuous influx and outflux of people, it must be very difficult to make a solid estimate.... hey wait, maybe this is complexity problem after all. What is the simplest data we could gather to make an estimate? Some combination of photographs and counts of people passing specific points? Hmmmm....

Eric


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Re: not complexity, but

Tom Carter
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Owen -

  Haven't read . . . but in an effort to understand "why string (or something?) theory?" I've been doing some background reading on "what the issues are" . . . (e.g., what actually makes up the Standard Model, that needs "updating").

  Recent lunch reading for me has been this article (from a recent issue of the Bulletin of the the American Mathematical Society):


  One of the authors is John Baez (UC Riverside), whose article on Physics, Topology and Logic (sometimes called the "Rosetta Stone" paper) has been referenced on Friam in the past:


  Warning:  the "Algebra of Grand Unified Theories" article is a mathematicians' attempt at (a simplified version of) the Standard Model, and hence the math is somewhat rigorous :-)   (see sample sentences below . . .)  The introduction does give a reasonably readable "lay of the land," putting various of the issues in context . . .

tom

  Note that this is an element of su(2) divided by i. So, it lies in sl(2,C), the complexified adjoint representation of SU(2). In fact it equals W 0,
one of the gauge bosons. So, up to a constant of proportionality, the observable Iˆ is one of the gauge bosons! Similarly, corresponding to
hypercharge Y is an observable Yˆ. This is also, up to proportionality, a gauge boson, though this gauge boson lives in the complexified adjoint
representation of U(1).
  Here are the details . . .


On Oct 30, 2010, at 8:01 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:

Sorry for the spam, but I found that "the other anti-string" book's author (Not Even Wrong, Peter Woit) has a positive review of the book:
   http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=3165

I believe this, in part, is due to the need for sophisticated geometric mathematics in non-string theories like loop quantum gravity.

Interesting to note: of the 19 reviews on Amazon, all 19 are 5-stars!

Has anyone here read it and have an opinion or insight?

   -- Owen


On Oct 30, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:

This does look interesting, especially after reading Smolin's book The Trouble with Physics.

I bet I like them both, even though many (wrongly) consider Smolin's book anti-string.  Its more pro-physics (at least as practiced through the 1970s).

Did you read it (Yau, not Smolin)?  Yau won the Fields medal, always a good recommendation.

  -- Owen


On Oct 30, 2010, at 9:29 AM, joseph spinden wrote:

I have not seen this mentioned on the list yet, but some on this list might find it interesting:

The Shape of Inner Space: String Theory and the Geometry of the Universe's Hidden Dimensions, by Shing-Tung Yau and Steve Nadis

Yau has been at the center of string theory development.

Joe S



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