neutrons leaking to parallel mirror universe? Rich Murray 2012.06.18

[Rich Murray-2]

neutrons leaking to parallel mirror universe? Rich Murray 2012.06.18

http://phys.org/news/2012-06-neutrons-parallel-world.html

Neutrons escaping to a parallel world? June 15, 2012

In a paper recently published in European Physical Journal C,
researchers hypothesised the existence of mirror particles to explain
the anomalous loss of neutrons observed experimentally.

The existence of such mirror matter had been suggested in various
scientific contexts some time ago, including the search for suitable
dark matter candidates.

Theoretical physicists Zurab Berezhiani and Fabrizio Nesti from the
University of l'Aquila, Italy, reanalysed the experimental data
obtained by the research group of Anatoly Serebrov at the Institut
Laue-Langevin, France.

It showed that the loss rate of very slow free neutrons appeared to
depend on the direction and strength of the magnetic field applied.

This anomaly could not be explained by known physics.

Berezhiani believes it could be interpreted in the light of a
hypothetical parallel world consisting of mirror particles.

Each neutron would have the ability to transition into its invisible
mirror twin, and back, oscillating from one world to the other.

The probability of such a transition happening was predicted to be
sensitive to the presence of magnetic fields, and could therefore be
detected experimentally.

This neutron-mirror-neutron oscillation could occur within a timescale
of a few seconds, according to the paper.

The possibility of such a fast disappearance of neutrons -- much
faster than the ten-minute long neutron decay -- albeit surprising,
could not be excluded by existing experimental and astrophysical
limits.

This interpretation is subject to the condition that the earth
possesses a mirror magnetic field on the order of 0.1 Gauss.

Such a field could be induced by mirror particles floating around in
the galaxy as dark matter.

Hypothetically, the earth could capture the mirror matter via some
feeble interactions between ordinary particles and those from parallel
worlds.

More information: Z. Berezhiani, F. Nesti,
Magnetic anomaly in UCN trapping: signal for neutron oscillations to
parallel world?
(2012),  European Physical Journal C 72: 1974,
DOI 10.1140/epjc/s10052-012-1974-5

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[Bruce Sherwood]

Unencumbered by having read any of the related literature, I would as
an erstwhile particle experimentalist nevertheless point out that it's
got to be extremely difficult experimentally to be sure that neutrons
are actually going missing, because they're hard to detect in the
first place, being electrically neutral.

Bruce

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Rich Murray <[hidden email]> wrote:

> neutrons leaking to parallel mirror universe? Rich Murray 2012.06.18
>
> http://phys.org/news/2012-06-neutrons-parallel-world.html
>
> Neutrons escaping to a parallel world? June 15, 2012
>
> In a paper recently published in European Physical Journal C,
> researchers hypothesised the existence of mirror particles to explain
> the anomalous loss of neutrons observed experimentally.
>
> The existence of such mirror matter had been suggested in various
> scientific contexts some time ago, including the search for suitable
> dark matter candidates.
>
> Theoretical physicists Zurab Berezhiani and Fabrizio Nesti from the
> University of l'Aquila, Italy, reanalysed the experimental data
> obtained by the research group of Anatoly Serebrov at the Institut
> Laue-Langevin, France.
>
> It showed that the loss rate of very slow free neutrons appeared to
> depend on the direction and strength of the magnetic field applied.
>
> This anomaly could not be explained by known physics.
>
> Berezhiani believes it could be interpreted in the light of a
> hypothetical parallel world consisting of mirror particles.
>
> Each neutron would have the ability to transition into its invisible
> mirror twin, and back, oscillating from one world to the other.
>
> The probability of such a transition happening was predicted to be
> sensitive to the presence of magnetic fields, and could therefore be
> detected experimentally.
>
> This neutron-mirror-neutron oscillation could occur within a timescale
> of a few seconds, according to the paper.
>
> The possibility of such a fast disappearance of neutrons -- much
> faster than the ten-minute long neutron decay -- albeit surprising,
> could not be excluded by existing experimental and astrophysical
> limits.
>
> This interpretation is subject to the condition that the earth
> possesses a mirror magnetic field on the order of 0.1 Gauss.
>
> Such a field could be induced by mirror particles floating around in
> the galaxy as dark matter.
>
> Hypothetically, the earth could capture the mirror matter via some
> feeble interactions between ordinary particles and those from parallel
> worlds.
>
> More information: Z. Berezhiani, F. Nesti,
> Magnetic anomaly in UCN trapping: signal for neutron oscillations to
> parallel world?
> (2012),  European Physical Journal C 72: 1974,
> DOI 10.1140/epjc/s10052-012-1974-5
>
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[Jochen Fromm-5]

Sounds nearly like the story in "The gods themselves"
from Isaac Asimov, I have read it last week in the holidays.
Time to setup a Neutrino pump ? :-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gods_Themselves

-J.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Murray" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>; "Rich Murray" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 7:28 PM
Subject: [FRIAM] neutrons leaking to parallel mirror universe? Rich
Murray2012.06.18

> neutrons leaking to parallel mirror universe? Rich Murray 2012.06.18
>
> http://phys.org/news/2012-06-neutrons-parallel-world.html
>
> Neutrons escaping to a parallel world? June 15, 2012
>
> In a paper recently published in European Physical Journal C,
> researchers hypothesised the existence of mirror particles to explain
> the anomalous loss of neutrons observed experimentally.
>
> The existence of such mirror matter had been suggested in various
> scientific contexts some time ago, including the search for suitable
> dark matter candidates.
>
> Theoretical physicists Zurab Berezhiani and Fabrizio Nesti from the
> University of l'Aquila, Italy, reanalysed the experimental data
> obtained by the research group of Anatoly Serebrov at the Institut
> Laue-Langevin, France.
>
> It showed that the loss rate of very slow free neutrons appeared to
> depend on the direction and strength of the magnetic field applied.
>
> This anomaly could not be explained by known physics.
>
> Berezhiani believes it could be interpreted in the light of a
> hypothetical parallel world consisting of mirror particles.
>
> Each neutron would have the ability to transition into its invisible
> mirror twin, and back, oscillating from one world to the other.
>
> The probability of such a transition happening was predicted to be
> sensitive to the presence of magnetic fields, and could therefore be
> detected experimentally.
>
> This neutron-mirror-neutron oscillation could occur within a timescale
> of a few seconds, according to the paper.
>
> The possibility of such a fast disappearance of neutrons -- much
> faster than the ten-minute long neutron decay -- albeit surprising,
> could not be excluded by existing experimental and astrophysical
> limits.
>
> This interpretation is subject to the condition that the earth
> possesses a mirror magnetic field on the order of 0.1 Gauss.
>
> Such a field could be induced by mirror particles floating around in
> the galaxy as dark matter.
>
> Hypothetically, the earth could capture the mirror matter via some
> feeble interactions between ordinary particles and those from parallel
> worlds.
>
> More information: Z. Berezhiani, F. Nesti,
> Magnetic anomaly in UCN trapping: signal for neutron oscillations to
> parallel world?
> (2012),  European Physical Journal C 72: 1974,
> DOI 10.1140/epjc/s10052-012-1974-5
>
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[Steve Smith]

Doesn't such a Neutrino Pump require a Maxwell's Daemon at it's core?  I
hear (this) universe is short of them... perhaps the parallel ones where
our neutrons are going missing has some to spare?

> Sounds nearly like the story in "The gods themselves"
> from Isaac Asimov, I have read it last week in the holidays.
> Time to setup a Neutrino pump ? :-)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gods_Themselves
>
> -J.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Murray" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>; "Rich Murray" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 7:28 PM
> Subject: [FRIAM] neutrons leaking to parallel mirror universe? Rich
> Murray2012.06.18
>
>
>> neutrons leaking to parallel mirror universe? Rich Murray 2012.06.18
>>
>> http://phys.org/news/2012-06-neutrons-parallel-world.html
>>
>> Neutrons escaping to a parallel world? June 15, 2012
>>
>> In a paper recently published in European Physical Journal C,
>> researchers hypothesised the existence of mirror particles to explain
>> the anomalous loss of neutrons observed experimentally.
>>
>> The existence of such mirror matter had been suggested in various
>> scientific contexts some time ago, including the search for suitable
>> dark matter candidates.
>>
>> Theoretical physicists Zurab Berezhiani and Fabrizio Nesti from the
>> University of l'Aquila, Italy, reanalysed the experimental data
>> obtained by the research group of Anatoly Serebrov at the Institut
>> Laue-Langevin, France.
>>
>> It showed that the loss rate of very slow free neutrons appeared to
>> depend on the direction and strength of the magnetic field applied.
>>
>> This anomaly could not be explained by known physics.
>>
>> Berezhiani believes it could be interpreted in the light of a
>> hypothetical parallel world consisting of mirror particles.
>>
>> Each neutron would have the ability to transition into its invisible
>> mirror twin, and back, oscillating from one world to the other.
>>
>> The probability of such a transition happening was predicted to be
>> sensitive to the presence of magnetic fields, and could therefore be
>> detected experimentally.
>>
>> This neutron-mirror-neutron oscillation could occur within a timescale
>> of a few seconds, according to the paper.
>>
>> The possibility of such a fast disappearance of neutrons -- much
>> faster than the ten-minute long neutron decay -- albeit surprising,
>> could not be excluded by existing experimental and astrophysical
>> limits.
>>
>> This interpretation is subject to the condition that the earth
>> possesses a mirror magnetic field on the order of 0.1 Gauss.
>>
>> Such a field could be induced by mirror particles floating around in
>> the galaxy as dark matter.
>>
>> Hypothetically, the earth could capture the mirror matter via some
>> feeble interactions between ordinary particles and those from parallel
>> worlds.
>>
>> More information: Z. Berezhiani, F. Nesti,
>> Magnetic anomaly in UCN trapping: signal for neutron oscillations to
>> parallel world?
>> (2012),  European Physical Journal C 72: 1974,
>> DOI 10.1140/epjc/s10052-012-1974-5
>>
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[Rich Murray-2]

What intrigues me is that very cold neutrons switching spontaneously
out of our realm in seconds via low intensity mirror realm magnetic
fields is a scheme that sounds similar to the Widom-Larson conjecture
in recent years:

strong electric currents creating momentary neutral associations
between protons and electrons, on the surfaces of solids, with zero
overall charge and very low speed, on surfaces where the
proton-electron association can act like a neutron, moving so close to
the atomic nucleus as to enable the strong force to grab the proton,
which emits a positron that combines with the electron, making an
escaping gamma and releasing nuclear energy -- leaving the nucleus
with an added unit of mass, enough in many nuclei like Cu to produce
short-lived radioactives that give off gammas and electrons one by one
via known decay chains, resulting in a stable element with higher
proton numbers...

search Google for Widom-Larson weak interaction transmutation decay chains...

eternal exponential expansion of science is an empirical law that,
given the actual single, fully and intimately unified, creative, fey
fractal hyperinfinity beyond-within all subjective and objective
realms, will forever display unpredictable phenomena on all scales --
just as observed since 1660...  heh, heh...
"Murray's Law"...

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[Paul Paryski]

Very cool, but I suspect that as I age my braincells are slowly leaking to a parallel universe.  

Paul

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Mon, Jun 18, 2012 6:46 pm
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] neutrons leaking to parallel mirror universe? Rich Murray2012.06.18

Doesn't such a Neutrino Pump require a Maxwell's Daemon at it's core?  I 
hear (this) universe is short of them... perhaps the parallel ones where 
our neutrons are going missing has some to spare?


> Sounds nearly like the story in "The gods themselves"
> from Isaac Asimov, I have read it last week in the holidays.
> Time to setup a Neutrino pump ? :-)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gods_Themselves
>
> -J.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Murray" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>; "Rich Murray" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 7:28 PM
> Subject: [FRIAM] neutrons leaking to parallel mirror universe? Rich 
> Murray2012.06.18
>
>
>> neutrons leaking to parallel mirror universe? Rich Murray 2012.06.18
>>
>> http://phys.org/news/2012-06-neutrons-parallel-world.html
>>
>> Neutrons escaping to a parallel world? June 15, 2012
>>
>> In a paper recently published in European Physical Journal C,
>> researchers hypothesised the existence of mirror particles to explain
>> the anomalous loss of neutrons observed experimentally.
>>
>> The existence of such mirror matter had been suggested in various
>> scientific contexts some time ago, including the search for suitable
>> dark matter candidates.
>>
>> Theoretical physicists Zurab Berezhiani and Fabrizio Nesti from the
>> University of l'Aquila, Italy, reanalysed the experimental data
>> obtained by the research group of Anatoly Serebrov at the Institut
>> Laue-Langevin, France.
>>
>> It showed that the loss rate of very slow free neutrons appeared to
>> depend on the direction and strength of the magnetic field applied.
>>
>> This anomaly could not be explained by known physics.
>>
>> Berezhiani believes it could be interpreted in the light of a
>> hypothetical parallel world consisting of mirror particles.
>>
>> Each neutron would have the ability to transition into its invisible
>> mirror twin, and back, oscillating from one world to the other.
>>
>> The probability of such a transition happening was predicted to be
>> sensitive to the presence of magnetic fields, and could therefore be
>> detected experimentally.
>>
>> This neutron-mirror-neutron oscillation could occur within a timescale
>> of a few seconds, according to the paper.
>>
>> The possibility of such a fast disappearance of neutrons -- much
>> faster than the ten-minute long neutron decay -- albeit surprising,
>> could not be excluded by existing experimental and astrophysical
>> limits.
>>
>> This interpretation is subject to the condition that the earth
>> possesses a mirror magnetic field on the order of 0.1 Gauss.
>>
>> Such a field could be induced by mirror particles floating around in
>> the galaxy as dark matter.
>>
>> Hypothetically, the earth could capture the mirror matter via some
>> feeble interactions between ordinary particles and those from parallel
>> worlds.
>>
>> More information: Z. Berezhiani, F. Nesti,
>> Magnetic anomaly in UCN trapping: signal for neutron oscillations to
>> parallel world?
>> (2012),  European Physical Journal C 72: 1974,
>> DOI 10.1140/epjc/s10052-012-1974-5
>>
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