emergence seminar: what's next?

[glen e. p. ropella-2]

What's next on the reading list?

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[Owen Densmore]

On Oct 5, 2009, at 9:36 AM, glen e. p. ropella wrote:
> What's next on the reading list?

Next Week's readings are Oppenheim and Hempel and Dennett.  Roger will  
present.

    -- Owen


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[Roger Critchlow-2]

Bit of a let down.  Nick assigned Chapter 9, Daniel C Dennett, Real Patterns, and Chapter 2, Carl Hempel and Paul Oppenheim, On the Idea of Emergence. 

Dennett's article was 25 pages originally, trimmed to 19 pages for the emergence collection, and I think they could have trimmed another 18.5 pages without losing much content.  The question, buried in much tangential content, is whether a perceived pattern can be real even if one is mistaken about the mechanism of the pattern's origin.

Hempel and Oppenheim are the token logical positivists in the collection, though Wikipedia notes that Hempel preferred to call himself a "logical empiricist".  Their article is an awesome slapdown of "of the classical absolutistic doctrine of emergence".  That appears to refer to some British Emergentist ideas that McLaughlin didn't mention.

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On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:36 AM, glen e. p. ropella <[hidden email]> wrote:

What's next on the reading list?

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[Nick Thompson]

Yeah.  Daniel Dennett.  What a let down.  N

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology,

Clark University ([hidden email])

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

 

 

 

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Bit of a let down.  Nick assigned Chapter 9, Daniel C Dennett, Real Patterns, and Chapter 2, Carl Hempel and Paul Oppenheim, On the Idea of Emergence. 

Dennett's article was 25 pages originally, trimmed to 19 pages for the emergence collection, and I think they could have trimmed another 18.5 pages without losing much content.  The question, buried in much tangential content, is whether a perceived pattern can be real even if one is mistaken about the mechanism of the pattern's origin.

Hempel and Oppenheim are the token logical positivists in the collection, though Wikipedia notes that Hempel preferred to call himself a "logical empiricist".  Their article is an awesome slapdown of "of the classical absolutistic doctrine of emergence".  That appears to refer to some British Emergentist ideas that McLaughlin didn't mention.

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On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:36 AM, glen e. p. ropella <[hidden email]> wrote:

What's next on the reading list?

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[Russ Abbott]

You may be interested in the Appendix to my "Reductionist blind spot" paper, which reviews Dennet's paper. 

-- Russ Abbott
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On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Nicholas Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yeah.  Daniel Dennett.  What a let down.  N

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology,

Clark University ([hidden email])

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

 

 

 

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Sent: 10/5/2009 10:30:35 AM

Subject: Re: [FRIAM] emergence seminar: what's next?

Bit of a let down.  Nick assigned Chapter 9, Daniel C Dennett, Real Patterns, and Chapter 2, Carl Hempel and Paul Oppenheim, On the Idea of Emergence. 

Dennett's article was 25 pages originally, trimmed to 19 pages for the emergence collection, and I think they could have trimmed another 18.5 pages without losing much content.  The question, buried in much tangential content, is whether a perceived pattern can be real even if one is mistaken about the mechanism of the pattern's origin.

Hempel and Oppenheim are the token logical positivists in the collection, though Wikipedia notes that Hempel preferred to call himself a "logical empiricist".  Their article is an awesome slapdown of "of the classical absolutistic doctrine of emergence".  That appears to refer to some British Emergentist ideas that McLaughlin didn't mention.

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On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:36 AM, glen e. p. ropella <[hidden email]> wrote:

What's next on the reading list?

--
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