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Giles Bowkett
Hi all, just a quick question. Is there cafe wifi for civilians
anywhere in Los Alamos?

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Re: cafe wifi in los alamos?

Jane Lin

The Coffee House has free wifi - it's in the Smith's shopping center:  
<https://www.thecoffeebooth.com/>

UNM-LA also has free wifi: <http://www.la.unm.edu/Wireless/>
There is a cafe there too: <http://www.la.unm.edu/business/ 
food_services.html>

-Jane



On Feb 23, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Giles Bowkett wrote:

> Hi all, just a quick question. Is there cafe wifi for civilians
> anywhere in Los Alamos?
>
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Steve Smith
Jane Lin wrote:
>
> The Coffee House has free wifi - it's in the Smith's shopping center:
> <https://www.thecoffeebooth.com/>
>
> UNM-LA also has free wifi: <http://www.la.unm.edu/Wireless/>
> There is a cafe there too:
> <http://www.la.unm.edu/business/food_services.html>

Hot Rocks *was* free but now has a pay-for-service through Blackrock
networks (I think),
Starbucks has a T-Mobile Hot-spot (subcription or pay-per use),
there is *free* wifi at the Coffee place (I don't know the name) in the
Metzger's shopping center.
There *was* free wifi at the video store on Conoco hill and they had
coffee too a year ago... don't know about now.
The Quark Bar keeps promising to put in WiFi for me so I can drink beer
(rather than coffee) in the afternoon while pretending to work.

- Steve

>
> -Jane
>
>
>
> On Feb 23, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Giles Bowkett wrote:
>
>> Hi all, just a quick question. Is there cafe wifi for civilians
>> anywhere in Los Alamos?
>>
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Douglas Roberts-2
There used to be free WIFI in the lobby of the Hilltop House, or whatever they call it now.  Haven't been there in a while, though, so I don't know if it's still there.

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Steve Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
Jane Lin wrote:

The Coffee House has free wifi - it's in the Smith's shopping center: <https://www.thecoffeebooth.com/>

UNM-LA also has free wifi: <http://www.la.unm.edu/Wireless/>
There is a cafe there too: <http://www.la.unm.edu/business/food_services.html>

Hot Rocks *was* free but now has a pay-for-service through Blackrock networks (I think),
Starbucks has a T-Mobile Hot-spot (subcription or pay-per use),
there is *free* wifi at the Coffee place (I don't know the name) in the Metzger's shopping center.
There *was* free wifi at the video store on Conoco hill and they had coffee too a year ago... don't know about now.
The Quark Bar keeps promising to put in WiFi for me so I can drink beer (rather than coffee) in the afternoon while pretending to work.

- Steve


-Jane



On Feb 23, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Giles Bowkett wrote:

Hi all, just a quick question. Is there cafe wifi for civilians
anywhere in Los Alamos?

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Steve Smith
Douglas Roberts wrote:
> There used to be free WIFI in the lobby of the Hilltop House, or
> whatever they call it now.  Haven't been there in a while, though, so
> I don't know if it's still there.
Another unexpected option is at Totavi where they seem to have open WiFi
and damn good Breakfast Burritos.  I last enjoyed their services when LA
was snowed in and the whole Espanola Valley (including the solar-powered
TewaCom) was out of power.

You can also pull off the road 100 yards east of Otowi bridge and catch
the coattails of my own WiFi ("1Plow" and "linksys") and if you smell
coffee you can come to my door and see if I have a pot on the
woodstove... I usually do when I'm here!

- Steve

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Douglas Roberts-2
Damn!

That offer almost makes me wish I still drove up that direction every now & then.

I said, 'almost'.

BTW, the Furor of the Day, for those of you who don't follow the shenanigans up at LANL,  is that LANS , the Los Alamos M&O contractor, has banned pdf email attachments.  Any and all pdf attachments are being deep-sixed by the corporate email server. The now famous (and world renowned) corporate contractor of LANL is, however, becoming a bit desparate, because they are starting to run out of ways to keep people from getting their work done.  I hear suggestions are being greatfully accepted in this regard.

--Doug



On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Steve Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
Douglas Roberts wrote:
There used to be free WIFI in the lobby of the Hilltop House, or whatever they call it now.  Haven't been there in a while, though, so I don't know if it's still there.
Another unexpected option is at Totavi where they seem to have open WiFi and damn good Breakfast Burritos.  I last enjoyed their services when LA was snowed in and the whole Espanola Valley (including the solar-powered TewaCom) was out of power.

You can also pull off the road 100 yards east of Otowi bridge and catch the coattails of my own WiFi ("1Plow" and "linksys") and if you smell coffee you can come to my door and see if I have a pot on the woodstove... I usually do when I'm here!

- Steve


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Marcus G. Daniels
Douglas Roberts wrote:
> BTW, the Furor of the Day, for those of you who don't follow the
> shenanigans up at LANL,  is that LANS , the Los Alamos M&O contractor,
> has banned pdf email attachments.  Any and all pdf attachments are
> being deep-sixed by the corporate email server.
Normally such things sit in quarantine until they get scanner signatures
(AFAICT so that they can blame the vendor that sells the signatures if
anything bad  is perceived to have happened).   They also blocked direct
access to PDFs from the web via the proxy server.  

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Re: cafe wifi in los alamos?

James Steiner
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Maybe not a cafe, but they do sell coffee, and have free Wi-Fi: McDonalds.

(almost all McDonalds have free Wi-Fi)

~~James

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Giles Bowkett <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi all, just a quick question. Is there cafe wifi for civilians
> anywhere in Los Alamos?
>
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Parks, Raymond
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Douglas Roberts wrote:

> Damn!
>
> That offer almost makes me wish I still drove up that direction every
> now & then.
>
> I said, 'almost'.
>
> BTW, the Furor of the Day, for those of you who don't follow the
> shenanigans up at LANL,  is that LANS , the Los Alamos M&O contractor,
> has banned pdf email attachments.  Any and all pdf attachments are being
> deep-sixed by the corporate email server. The now famous (and world
> renowned) corporate contractor of LANL is, however, becoming a bit
> desparate, because they are starting to run out of ways to keep people
> from getting their work done.  I hear suggestions are being greatfully
> accepted in this regard.

  We (SNL) did that briefly last summer because of the vulnerabilities
with Acrobat and Reader versions < 8.2.  Once we got everyone converted
to 9.0, we allowed those attachments.  I know it was a real problem
because we spearphished a customer with the Adobe vulnerability as part
of a red-team engagement.

  To the best of my knowledge, there hasn't been a new vulnerability in
pdf and our computer security folks (with whom I work regularly) have
not said anything about a problem.

  Either LANL is about six months behind on security updates or they
know something we don't know.

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Marcus G. Daniels
Parks, Raymond wrote:
>   We (SNL) did that briefly last summer because of the vulnerabilities
> with Acrobat and Reader versions < 8.2.  Once we got everyone converted
> to 9.0, we allowed those attachments.  I know it was a real problem
> because we spearphished a customer with the Adobe vulnerability as part
> of a red-team engagement.
It's also 9.0 vulnerability and Adobe doesn't expect to have a fix until
March 11 and earlier versions after that.  Further they say that they
don't know if non-Adobe PDF readers are immune or not.  This says to me
that they don't really know any details and are just relying on the
"cyber community" and the vendors to sort things out.

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Douglas Roberts-2
The "cyber community" already has started to sort it out:

http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/24/0032201

--Doug

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Marcus G. Daniels <[hidden email]> wrote:
Parks, Raymond wrote:
 We (SNL) did that briefly last summer because of the vulnerabilities
with Acrobat and Reader versions < 8.2.  Once we got everyone converted
to 9.0, we allowed those attachments.  I know it was a real problem
because we spearphished a customer with the Adobe vulnerability as part
of a red-team engagement.
It's also 9.0 vulnerability and Adobe doesn't expect to have a fix until March 11 and earlier versions after that.  Further they say that they don't know if non-Adobe PDF readers are immune or not.  This says to me that they don't really know any details and are just relying on the "cyber community" and the vendors to sort things out.
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Parks, Raymond
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Parks, Raymond wrote:
>   Either LANL is about six months behind on security updates or they
> know something we don't know.

  I stand corrected - there is a new 0day for pdf -

http://blog.metasploit.com/2009/02/best-defense-is-information.html

  The patch does not come out until 11 March 2009.

  This vulnerability affects both versions 8 and 9 of Adobe Reader and
Acrobat on all platforms (although exploits in the wild are only for
Windows versions).

  The virus companies are aware and, if you have antivirus, you should
update the virus signatures to ensure you won't be affected.

  Since the vulnerability depends upon javascript being enabled in pdf
files, there is a registry hack for Windows which can be applied
manually, using reg.exe, or through group policy.  The registry hack
will cause reader to put up a dialogue and users could undo the fix.

  If other viewers allow and interpret javascript in pdf files, then
they could be vulnerable, but not to the same exploit - it would have to
be modified to work with other viewers.

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Marcus G. Daniels
Parks, Raymond wrote
> http://blog.metasploit.com/2009/02/best-defense-is-information.html
>  
Like, say, source code.

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