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Re: the white male effect (was Re: beyond reductionism twice)

Merle Lefkoff-2
Since research is compelling that levels of testosterone in males determine willingness to take risks, I wonder if it also affects perception of risk.


On Mar 28, 2013, at 2:39 PM, glen e. p. ropella wrote:

> Victoria Hughes wrote at 03/26/2013 11:27 AM:
>> 1. The discussion also references non-European, non-white-male models
>> for awareness, reality, conceptual modeling, etc.
>
> I found this interesting:
>
> Is the culturally polarizing effect of science literacy on climate
> change risk perceptions related to the "white male effect"? Does the
> answer tell us anything about the "asymmetry thesis"?!
>
> http://www.culturalcognition.net/blog/2013/3/28/is-the-culturally-polarizing-effect-of-science-literacy-on-c.html
>
> "2. The "white male effect" -- the observed tendency of white males to
> perceive risk to be lower -- is actually a "white male hierarch" effect.
> If you look at the blue lines, you can see they are more or less at
> This is consistent with prior CCP research that suggests that the
> "effect" is driven by culturally motivated reasoning: white male
> hierarch individualists have a cultural stake in perceiving
> environmental and technological risks to be low; egalitarian
> communitarians -- among whom there are no meaningful gender or race
> differences--have a stake in viewing such risks to be high."
>
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Re: the white male effect (was Re: beyond reductionism twice)

glen ep ropella
Merle Lefkoff wrote at 03/28/2013 01:51 PM:
> Since research is compelling that levels of testosterone in males
> determine willingness to take risks, I wonder if it also affects
> perception of risk.

I would think so.  But you'd also have to fold in the extent to which
someone was narcissistic or individualist.  To some extent any mechanism
by which one focuses tightly on a small region will affect/limit the
ability to track effects beyond that region.  So, perhaps it's more a
function of a thinner corpus callosum?

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He who regulates everything by laws, is more likely to arouse vices than
reform them. -- Spinoza


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Re: the white male effect (was Re: beyond reductionism twice)

scaganoff
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I'm astonished that anyone could even contemplate fitting a straight
line to those scatter plots.

Alternative hypothesis...isn't it just that EWMs have a propensity to
benefit from the status-quo?

Saul

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On 29/03/2013, at 7:39 AM, "glen e. p. ropella" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Victoria Hughes wrote at 03/26/2013 11:27 AM:
>> 1. The discussion also references non-European, non-white-male models
>> for awareness, reality, conceptual modeling, etc.
>
> I found this interesting:
>
> Is the culturally polarizing effect of science literacy on climate
> change risk perceptions related to the "white male effect"? Does the
> answer tell us anything about the "asymmetry thesis"?!
>
> http://www.culturalcognition.net/blog/2013/3/28/is-the-culturally-polarizing-effect-of-science-literacy-on-c.html
>
> "2. The "white male effect" -- the observed tendency of white males to
> perceive risk to be lower -- is actually a "white male hierarch" effect.
> If you look at the blue lines, you can see they are more or less at
> This is consistent with prior CCP research that suggests that the
> "effect" is driven by culturally motivated reasoning: white male
> hierarch individualists have a cultural stake in perceiving
> environmental and technological risks to be low; egalitarian
> communitarians -- among whom there are no meaningful gender or race
> differences--have a stake in viewing such risks to be high."
>
> --
> glen e. p. ropella, 971-255-2847, http://tempusdictum.com
> A government which robs Peter to pay Paul, can always count on the
> support of Paul -- George Bernard Shaw
>
>
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Re: the white male effect (was Re: beyond reductionism twice)

glen ep ropella
Saul Caganoff wrote at 03/28/2013 04:05 PM:
> I'm astonished that anyone could even contemplate fitting a straight
> line to those scatter plots.

Yeah, but that's the problem.  We pattern recognizers have no choice but
to do _something_ ... anything in order to recognize a pattern.

> Alternative hypothesis...isn't it just that EWMs have a propensity to
> benefit from the status-quo?

I don't know.  I would think the EWMs would be aggressive enough to
recognize that _if_ a sea change is on the horizon, they'd want to put
themselves in a position to come out on top after the change.  So,
perhaps if we reform your alternative hypothesis to:

The EWMs want to make the surveyors _think_ that they think the climate
risk is low, while actually operating behind the scenes to ensure their
hegemony after the effects of climate change settle out.

Then I might get on board. ;-)

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If you are not free to choose wrongly and irresponsibly, you are not
free at all. -- Jacob Hornberger


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