I configured to auto mute attendees when they enter to minimize feedback issues and background noise. You can unmute yourselves when you would like to speak. I will be there to Host.
I suggest that we have a reasonably focused conversation given an online format: Some suggestions:
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Great points, Steve. Yes, I will set up a Google doc in the morning. Folks who don't know ZOOM, we can share the G Doc on the zoom screen and anyone can add comments, which is probably better than multiple people trying to edit the document. ZOOM also has a handy chat tool in the right rail so you can seen a semi-conversation unfold. Tom On Wed, Mar 18, 2020, 9:42 PM Stephen Guerin <[hidden email]> wrote:
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I reserved the meeting from 9a - 12p thinking the first 30 minutes will be getting settled and then folks may come and go like normal FRIAM. We will be limited to 100 attendees. First come first serve. I suspect we'll get 30 or so. If we do reach the limit and folks are dialing in on phone and then logging in on computer for screen share, please consider dialing back to one client. If we need to and this will be ongoing we can upgrade to 500 attendees. Folks can chip in a roll of toilet paper to help out. Play Host:Zoom requires a download. New users can test ahead of time with a free account. If you are new to zoom, this will minimize using the conference time for tech support. Try things like Minimum:
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Having these skills are going to be important for the next 4 months :-) --- -. . ..-. .. ... .... - .-- --- ..-. .. ... .... 1600 Lena St #D1, Santa Fe, NM 87505 office: (505) 995-0206 mobile: (505) 577-5828 tw: @redfishgroup skype: redfishgroup On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 9:53 PM Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
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THANKS, Stephen, Do you have a favorite contagion model to apply to this situation? N Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Stephen Guerin I configured to auto mute attendees when they enter to minimize feedback issues and background noise. You can unmute yourselves when you would like to speak. I will be there to Host.
Tom, can you start a google doc and invite folks to edit?
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Nick writes: >Do you have a favorite contagion model to apply to this situation? Right now it's a baby that only a mother can love. It literally took its first steps just yesterday when it was delivered to the web. Owen is the proud father seeding the egg of Agentscript.org with a ported Netlogo virus on a network model: https://backspaces.github.io/agentscript/models2/?virus For the geeks, you can inspect its code here - I'm impressed that Owen got the syntax and semantics nailed with Agentscript to the point that a model like this can be expressed this tightly: https://backspaces.github.io/agentscript/models/VirusModel.js You can see more on AgentScript core here: Aww, you can see it currently looks like its mama here: Cody and Josh are adopting the baby and raising it in their lovely geoSpatial home of Realtime.Earth. We have great plans for the baby (see attached) to serve the world leveraging real-time and historical citizen location data as it interacts with more grown up models like LANL's OPPIE/Episims Silly metaphors aside, there's some good discussions this week on the SimSoc email list about epidemic models and a review paper that may be of interest: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5594572/ Beyond the applied, you may have seen these two models this week which have been a great service for educating the public on the basics of SIR models and value of social interventions:
I hope this Friday at Virtual FRIAM we can discuss viable short term approaches for implementing ABM SIR models coupled with geospatial and social dynamics to inform real-world policy and citizen behavior to mitigate the effects of the current spread. -S --- -. . ..-. .. ... .... - .-- --- ..-. .. ... .... 1600 Lena St #D1, Santa Fe, NM 87505 office: (505) 995-0206 mobile: (505) 577-5828 tw: @redfishgroup skype: redfishgroup On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 11:07 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Oh a Zoom meeting. Cool. Are remote participants allowed to join too? 9 AM in Santa Fe is 4 PM in Berlin (CET), we have a time difference of 7 hours. -Jochen -------- Original message -------- From: Stephen Guerin <[hidden email]> Date: 3/19/20 05:22 (GMT+01:00) To: Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> Cc: "Wedtech@Redfish. Com" <[hidden email]>, The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] Zoom invite for March 20 Virtual FRIAM I reserved the meeting from 9a - 12p thinking the first 30 minutes will be getting settled and then folks may come and go like normal FRIAM. We will be limited to 100 attendees. First come first serve. I suspect we'll get 30 or so. If we do reach the limit and folks are dialing in on phone and then logging in on computer for screen share, please consider dialing back to one client. If we need to and this will be ongoing we can upgrade to 500 attendees. Folks can chip in a roll of toilet paper to help out. Play Host:Zoom requires a download. New users can test ahead of time with a free account. If you are new to zoom, this will minimize using the conference time for tech support. Try things like Minimum:
Other:
Having these skills are going to be important for the next 4 months :-) --- -. . ..-. .. ... .... - .-- --- ..-. .. ... .... 1600 Lena St #D1, Santa Fe, NM 87505 office: (505) 995-0206 mobile: (505) 577-5828 tw: @redfishgroup skype: redfishgroup On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 9:53 PM Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
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An invitation will go to the global FRIAM list. Tom On Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 12:22 AM Jochen Fromm <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Stephen, and Owen, It is wonderful that you-guys are doing that. An interviewee on TRMS convinced me last night that the current response (shutting down functions, extreme distancing, etc.) is designed to protect old white guys at the expense of younger brown ones. Since the government consists largely of very old white guys, we can see why this is. But this policy is almost certainly unsustainable. For instance, agricultural production depends on migrant labor, so if the border is really closed, there will be food only for the very richest amongst us. So, once testing is up to speed, we are probably going to have to start leaking the virus through, hopefully holding the number of illnesses below the level of health system collapse. This conversation has not started, but it will begin very soon, and at that point, a model will be needed that factors in the health effects on the economically most vulnerable against the health effects on the medically most vulnerable, we old white guys. (I am 82, so I get to speak for OWG’S.) It will have to be understood that some OWG’S will die so that many more young brown people can live. . That will be the trade off, and you know how it’s likely to go unless we are ready do our part. This will particularly tricky when the vaccine gets closer and we OWG’S become like the soldiers on the field during the last day before the Armistice. Easy for me to say, I know, but If you have any way to show that relation, I hope it ultimately appear in your model. In the meantime, I recommend that everybody use this time of social distancing to prepare and plant a garden. Nick Nick Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Stephen Guerin <[hidden email]> Nick writes: Yes. Ours. ;-p Right now it's a baby that only a mother can love. It literally took its first steps just yesterday when it was delivered to the web. Owen is the proud father seeding the egg of Agentscript.org with a ported Netlogo virus on a network model: For the geeks, you can inspect its code here - I'm impressed that Owen got the syntax and semantics nailed with Agentscript to the point that a model like this can be expressed this tightly: You can see more on AgentScript core here: Aww, you can see it currently looks like its mama here: Cody and Josh are adopting the baby and raising it in their lovely geoSpatial home of Realtime.Earth. We have great plans for the baby (see attached) to serve the world leveraging real-time and historical citizen location data as it interacts with more grown up models like LANL's OPPIE/Episims Silly metaphors aside, there's some good discussions this week on the SimSoc email list about epidemic models and a review paper that may be of interest: Beyond the applied, you may have seen these two models this week which have been a great service for educating the public on the basics of SIR models and value of social interventions:
I hope this Friday at Virtual FRIAM we can discuss viable short term approaches for implementing ABM SIR models coupled with geospatial and social dynamics to inform real-world policy and citizen behavior to mitigate the effects of the current spread. -S --- -. . ..-. .. ... .... - .-- --- ..-. .. ... .... 1600 Lena St #D1, Santa Fe, NM 87505 office: (505) 995-0206 mobile: (505) 577-5828 tw: @redfishgroup skype: redfishgroup On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 11:07 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:
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We'll open the virtual doors at 9a MDT (GMT -6) for folks to get settled, get their microphones/speakers configured and some small talk. We'll start with a semi-structured talk at 9:30a. Coffee and donuts will be served here
You will be auto-muted when they enter to minimize feedback issues and background noise. You can unmute yourselves when you would like to speak. Tom Johnson is maintaining a potential topic list here: [hidden email] has shared a link to the following document: Feel free to add to or comment on this Google Document. Suggest you download ZOOM app for Chrome -- bit.ly/3bgdNvz Connect to ZOOM at https://zoom.us/j/330929933 Friday, 20 March at 9:30 a.m. MDT This will work with your smart phone (if you have installed the app), a table or your laptop/desktop. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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