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Tom Johnson

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My apologies. I thought I was sending it to only Steve Smith.

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On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 12:21 PM Gary Schiltz <[hidden email]> wrote:

It's a shame it depends on Flash. These days, most browsers don't come with it installed, and on the iOS platform, it isn't even available.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 1:16 PM Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Or a meta Doc with links pointing to Doc w Category Table(s)?
I also like to use Comapping for this sort of thing. Invite sent to you.
https://go.comapping.com/comapping.html#mapid=227145

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Prof David West

Re: YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

In reply to this post by Steve Smith

Liminal comes to mind as well - from von Gennep's discussion of rights of passage. Separation (from all that was, including individual identity) Liminal (where all things are possible) Incorporation (reintegration into a new reality).

You are supposed to have a guide through the Liminal in order to avoid getting lost or Incorporation into the wrong thing. Kind of like the guide in the Bardo Thodol.

Socially we are definitely experiencing Separation. But if our only guide is past experience we are destined to a reincarnation of the same old same old (Glen's authoritarianism and other's corporate serfdom). The potential of the Liminal will be lost.

davew

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020, at 10:55 AM, Steven A Smith wrote:

My observation is that from Dickens' "best of times, worst of times". I think as an inflection/bifurcation point, many things are possible. "sensitive dependence on initial conditions". In the spirit of "creative visualization" and "self-fulfilling prophecies" there are risks and opportunities around being too paranoid or too pollyanna and opportunities around being creatively positive and thoughtfully wary. I think there is a quad-chart in there somewhere?
"Svaha" is a word for "the time between the lightning and the thunder... when all things are possible". (alternately attributed to Native Americans, to old Norse, etc... but apparently coined by this book: https://www.amazon.com/Svaha-Charles-Lint/dp/0312876505 in the 90s...
And not to be confused with the much older Sanskrit svāhā which feels entertainingly relevant as well:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sv%C4%81h%C4%81
On 4/2/20 9:42 AM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote:
I've seen a few articles with titles like "Coronavirus is the death of Neoliberalism" or "... Capitalism" and whatnot. I'm skeptical. As much as I reject analogies between societal upheaval/collapse and phases of matter, I do believe in inflection points. My guess is that authoritarianism is what lies ahead of us on the other side of this inflection. We were already trending that way and I bet we'll continue. This inflection looks more like a minor rate change than anything fundamental.

This article was hopeful:

The coronavirus crisis has exposed the ugly truth about celebrity culture and capitalism 
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/31/the-coronavirus-crisis-has-exposed-the-ugly-truth-about-celebrity-culture-and-capitalism

There's nothing more disgusting to me than our celebrity fetish. But this article was pessimistic:

Invisible man? Amid pandemic, Biden sidelined by omnipresent Trump
https://news.yahoo.com/invisible-man-amid-pandemic-biden-sidelined-omnipresent-trump-082411045.html

My faith in my fellow humans' *tastes* is always crushed. Everyone tends to flock to the least common denominator. (My primary objection to instant-runoff/ranked-choice voting and pop music, as well as overly reductive rating systems like Rotten Tomatoes, etc.) The "wisdom of crowds" is an oxymoron. >8^D

On 4/2/20 8:05 AM, Prof David West wrote:
Governments cannot print and distribute money fast enough to prevent a major collapse of world economic order and concomitant social breakdown.
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Frank Wimberly-2

Re: YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

"Liminal etc." What??

Morelocks of Friam unite. That I could transliterate.

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gepr

Re: YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

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Excellent! Thanks. It does make the analogy a little more defensible if the couplings between the locally structured Ising models (chained together by common variables) can be relaxed, maybe allowing mixed phase whole models.

On 4/2/20 11:31 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> One might have a situation like below where the bond strengths between molecules were gradually getting weaker, giving the effect of an increasing temperature. If the logical operations (as described) were in place of H2O, then the "molecules" would be a bit more complex and retain at least the same relative magnitudes between the bonds, but some of the bonds between the logical operations could be relaxed. At a high level, to your question, the metaphor that comes to mind is ice cubes in a cup of water.

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Prof David West

Re: YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

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Liminal --> use the analogy Schrodinger's cat, until the box is opened, the cat is both alive and dead and neither alive nor dead, it is betwixt and between. That is a kind of binary liminality. Generalize from that to N-ary space.

von Gennep was talking about rights of passage — of which few of us have really experienced except in pale imitations. Two examples: from childhood to adulthood, with rites and rituals that separate you from your identify as a child, followed by a liminal period for the duration of the ritual, then reincorporation with new clothes new privileges, new responsibilities as an adult. Second, a secular person is stripped naked, cleansed, (separation) then engages in guided prayer and other purification rituals (liminal) then dressed in sacred clothing as a priest.

In Tibetan Buddhism, you die and are in Bardo. If you receive proper guidance, your spirit can avoid being reincarnated and reborn. Bardo is liminal between past life and future life (if you fail to accept the Light.")

In Dante's Divine Comedy, Purgatorio is a kind of liminal period where each of your sins (PPPPPPP written on your forehead) are removed one at a time as you ascend the peak.

davew

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020, at 12:59 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:

"Liminal etc." What??

Morelocks of Friam unite. That I could transliterate.

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