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After looking at the FixYa report I posted earlier
.. it made me wonder what the relationship between the Samsung Nexus and LG Nexus is? The report felt it important to distinguish between the Galaxy line and the Nexus line. -- Owen
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I noticed that as well. The Nexus (and Google) appear to be the black sheep of the cell phone flock. --Doug On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Owen Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote: After looking at the FixYa report I posted earlier
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Sounds like I.
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And Steve is easy to pick out of the crowd: Page Views: 1 Entry Page Time: 23 Feb 2013 11:05:47 Browser: Firefox 18.0 OS:
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On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Owen Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote: Sounds like I.
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Doug -- So your complaint at this point, now that you've rooted and installed a custom ROM, is that the phone can't do WiFi and Bluetooth at the same time? WiFi and Bluetooth both use the same frequencies (2.1 GHz unregulated band) and I've seen specs where they're implemented in the same radio, which would mean that you could have one or the other, but not both at the same time. It wouldn't surprise me if that were the standard implementation of cell phone WiFi and Bluetooth, especially since I've never seen a spec that specified two separate radios for WiFi and Bluetooth.
My HTC Nexus One, the one that eventually went through the wash, was able to stream audio over bluetooth when you plugged it into its cradle. That worked fine if it was playing mp3's off the SDcard. But if you tried to stream Pandora from WiFi then you could hear the frequency at which the radio was multiplexing between WiFi and Bluetooth. It was a magnificent attempt to make two digital systems stretch to create an analog illusion, but it didn't make it.
There's two phones, Nexus 4 and Nexus One, where we've actually tried to run WiFi and Bluetooth at the same time and had problems. So, where's the list of phones that you've tested where WiFi and Bluetooth operated simultaneously with no problems?
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Yep, that's my one remaining complaint, Roger. And my list of phones that can run wifi and bluetooth simultaneously is the following: 1) My previous phone, HTC Thunderbolt, running Android Gingerbread 2.3
Of course, that's the only other Android phone I've owned, so it's a short list. --Doug
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Oh, and BTW: Pandora on the Nexus 4 via wifi sounds fine. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Douglas Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Sorry for not collecting all my responses up into one email, but I guess that technically, I do have one more complaint about the Nexus 4: battery life is somewhat reduced from having to run the push notifications fixer app to nudge the phone awake every 5 minutes, for those occasions that the buggy Qualcomm wifi driver has temporarily defeated the workaround described here.
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The Galaxy S3 has been good on wifi with bluetooth listening to Pandora (doing it now). I can't hear the multiplexing you refer to, Roger (though I'm deaf in an ear and tend not to hear high-frequencies well).
I am seeing a similar Google non response to a known issue having to do with the Galaxy S3 crashing in Google Maps navigation mode. https://productforums.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/mobile/IlJDfMkgl3U. Very frustrating/dangerous when trying to rely on it in heavy traffic trying to make a meeting or flight :-)
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Now that I think on it some more, there's really no reason that a radio should not be able to receive and transmit WiFi and Bluetooth at the same time. It's a little trickier than doing one at a time, but the tricks are in the software, or in the DSP hardware part of the radio.
There are a whole slew of phones running the same chip as the Nexus 4, listed in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_S4#Snapdragon_S4 in the APQ8064 row. The LG Optimus G runs the same processor as the Nexus 4, but using Android 4.0. The HTC Droid DNA runs the same processor, but using Android 4.1. The Sony Xperia Z will run the same processor, but using Android 4.1. Hmm, you can see how requests to fix Android 4.2 drivers might end up at the end of the queue, assuming that any requests have been made. And I misspoke, the unregulated band is at 2.4 GHz, not 2.1 GHz. -- rec -- ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com |
Google's whole "We're Google, fuck you." attitude is getting a bit old. Not only can we not get them to acknowledge that the bad wifi / bluetooth interaction exists on the Nexus 4, we can't get any info on whether it is a hardware or software issue. --Doug On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Roger Critchlow <[hidden email]> wrote:
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I only tried navigation mode once, briefly, so I can't really testify to what happens with my AT&T Galaxy S3 in that respect. My main beef with Google currently is that despite major complaints, including a person pointing out the dangers to someone as a result of revealing rather publicly with whom they've been "hanging out", is that it is still true that Google+ logs your hangouts in your list of activities. Bruce On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Stephen Guerin <[hidden email]> wrote: The Galaxy S3 has been good on wifi with bluetooth listening to Pandora (doing it now). I can't hear the multiplexing you refer to, Roger (though I'm deaf in an ear and tend not to hear high-frequencies well). ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com |
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gasp didn't root it to make a beowolf cluster?
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That was next on my list, after getting Pandora running over WiFi to my Bluetooth speakers. :) On Feb 23, 2013 5:52 PM, "Gillian Densmore" <[hidden email]> wrote:
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So, after bitching about WiFi on the Nexus 4 earlier today, I'm now sitting in the Airport Hyatt in Abq getting 14 Mbps down, and 2 Mbps up with a solid HSPA+ T-Mobile connection, and guess what: everything works. Google is an idiot for not fixing WiFi on this phone. On Feb 23, 2013 6:02 PM, "Douglas Roberts" <[hidden email]> wrote:
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God, thats amazing speed.
I wonder if the cell providers might eventually take over broadband to the home? I know there are "cell modem" like critters that work as home broadband (Carl uses one). Currently they are expensive for massive use (movies etc).
But with the failure of good broadband availability in much of the US, anyway, it seems a compelling market.
-- Owen
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I'm in Las Vegas NV for the next few days, regularly getting 18 Mbps down, 1 Mbps up on my $30/month "unlimited" T-Mobile plan. -Doug On Feb 24, 2013 11:13 AM, "Owen Densmore" <[hidden email]> wrote:
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"Massive use" in US = "normal use" in the rest of civilization.
Verizon just tried to sign a friend up to a wireless plan as her main internet access. Monthly cap? 5Gb. That's about a movie and a half at HD.
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