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Gillian Densmore
I have no idea if the is the mailing list to ask

I have about enough of windows rebooting crashing and being a POS.

Is there anyway to get this crappy os to not insist on rebooting when I don't want. Or spamming me with adds about crap I don't want (Java updates and 10K spamware)
It's slower than cerillos traffic and sucking to use to the point that I'd rather chuck the damn box off a tall building  and hit it with a large mallet to the toon of the 1812 Overture.run it over and replace it with something that's actually fun and simple to use.

I have checked it's update settings. nothing stands out, the neither Avast or MS's Essentials reports malware or rootkits. Seven forums says uh just reformat and start over. I somehow doubt that'd fix it.




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Re: Windows Q

Owen Densmore
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It is difficult to do a clean install? I.e. put all your data on Dropbox or some other cloud storage? Ditto for apps, make sure they are easy to restore from an AppStore or elsewhere?

I find whenever I run into your problem I:
  - Use the Activity Monitor (mac) or equivalent (windows, linux) to check for high CPU, Disk, Memory use, sometimes that showes the problem. In fact I just did that and found Atom editor had problems with the Mac spell checker!
  - Use a disk listing program like (mac) OmniDiskSweeper. I'm sure there's a similar one for all systems. Clean up as well as I can from that. I'm often surprised how much I don't need.
  - If that doesn't improve things then check recently installed apps being bad.
  - Use the AppStore to do a clean install
  - Reinstall the apps and data.

   -- Owen

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:
I have no idea if the is the mailing list to ask

I have about enough of windows rebooting crashing and being a POS.

Is there anyway to get this crappy os to not insist on rebooting when I don't want. Or spamming me with adds about crap I don't want (Java updates and 10K spamware)
It's slower than cerillos traffic and sucking to use to the point that I'd rather chuck the damn box off a tall building  and hit it with a large mallet to the toon of the 1812 Overture.run it over and replace it with something that's actually fun and simple to use.

I have checked it's update settings. nothing stands out, the neither Avast or MS's Essentials reports malware or rootkits. Seven forums says uh just reformat and start over. I somehow doubt that'd fix it.




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Re: Windows Q

Gary Schiltz-4
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I have no idea what version of Windows you have. From my limited recent experience with MS OS’es, Windows 10 seems solid and efficient. I’d follow the advice of saving relevant data to an external HD, install Windows 10 from scratch, and then reinstall whatever apps you really need. If you have enough horsepower, install VirtualBox and try out a few Linux distros for endless fun :-)  After a while, you might very well want to reverse the process: install a Linux version as the base OS, install VirtualBox on that, and install Windows 10 on that. If you do go that way, you can use VMware’s free converter (www.vmware.com/products/converter) to save your physical Windows 10 installation as a virtual machine, which can then be run with VMware Player or VirtualBox under Linux after wiping and installing a distro from scratch.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:
I have no idea if the is the mailing list to ask

I have about enough of windows rebooting crashing and being a POS.

Is there anyway to get this crappy os to not insist on rebooting when I don't want. Or spamming me with adds about crap I don't want (Java updates and 10K spamware)
It's slower than cerillos traffic and sucking to use to the point that I'd rather chuck the damn box off a tall building  and hit it with a large mallet to the toon of the 1812 Overture.run it over and replace it with something that's actually fun and simple to use.

I have checked it's update settings. nothing stands out, the neither Avast or MS's Essentials reports malware or rootkits. Seven forums says uh just reformat and start over. I somehow doubt that'd fix it.




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Re: Windows Q

Gillian Densmore
lol yeah admtedly while the admin side to ubuntu for me is little tricky. It doesn't seem to have the issue of random spam.

For what it's worth it's a realy old dell with Windows 7 it was somewhat top end when I got it.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Gary Schiltz <[hidden email]> wrote:
I have no idea what version of Windows you have. From my limited recent experience with MS OS’es, Windows 10 seems solid and efficient. I’d follow the advice of saving relevant data to an external HD, install Windows 10 from scratch, and then reinstall whatever apps you really need. If you have enough horsepower, install VirtualBox and try out a few Linux distros for endless fun :-)  After a while, you might very well want to reverse the process: install a Linux version as the base OS, install VirtualBox on that, and install Windows 10 on that. If you do go that way, you can use VMware’s free converter (www.vmware.com/products/converter) to save your physical Windows 10 installation as a virtual machine, which can then be run with VMware Player or VirtualBox under Linux after wiping and installing a distro from scratch.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:
I have no idea if the is the mailing list to ask

I have about enough of windows rebooting crashing and being a POS.

Is there anyway to get this crappy os to not insist on rebooting when I don't want. Or spamming me with adds about crap I don't want (Java updates and 10K spamware)
It's slower than cerillos traffic and sucking to use to the point that I'd rather chuck the damn box off a tall building  and hit it with a large mallet to the toon of the 1812 Overture.run it over and replace it with something that's actually fun and simple to use.

I have checked it's update settings. nothing stands out, the neither Avast or MS's Essentials reports malware or rootkits. Seven forums says uh just reformat and start over. I somehow doubt that'd fix it.




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Re: Windows Q

Tom Johnson
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Perhaps relevant:

"My boomerang is home....and the solution was something I'd never heard of, so there is a chance it will help some of you.

First: Tried unplugging external drives as suggested. No help. 

Ran chkdsk again. No help.

Ran memtest66. No help

Scanned with Dell online hardware troubleshooter (My system is Vestros 470). Nope

Uninstalled all MS updates for last 2 months. Nope........At this stage was still getting freezes, BSOD, log off and shut down stalls. Decided  to try Resource monitor. Couldn't get anything useful (to me, at least) there, but saw a link to something in my Win7Pro system calledReliability monitor. Bingo! Showed some problems were Windows ("We're working on a solution and will get back to you when we find one"), but most were either the Dell datasafe (included with the system) or a program I had installed months before and forgotten about because I thought I hadn't activated it - a firewall call GlasswireI uninstalled both the Dell and Glasswire programs, and have been problem free for the last week...long enough to stop holding my breath. The takeaway here is the Reliability Monitor may be a good addition to your bag of tricks. Hope it helps. Thanks again to everyone for the many suggestions.

Larry Aronberg, DPM"

--tj

On Nov 18, 2015 10:57 AM, "Gillian Densmore" <[hidden email]> wrote:
I have no idea if the is the mailing list to ask

I have about enough of windows rebooting crashing and being a POS.

Is there anyway to get this crappy os to not insist on rebooting when I don't want. Or spamming me with adds about crap I don't want (Java updates and 10K spamware)
It's slower than cerillos traffic and sucking to use to the point that I'd rather chuck the damn box off a tall building  and hit it with a large mallet to the toon of the 1812 Overture.run it over and replace it with something that's actually fun and simple to use.

I have checked it's update settings. nothing stands out, the neither Avast or MS's Essentials reports malware or rootkits. Seven forums says uh just reformat and start over. I somehow doubt that'd fix it.




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Re: Windows Q

Gillian Densmore
Even though at this point I have little trust in the Del. Reliability monitor shows there's some some kind of hardware issue and one of the updates installed twice.

The damn thing infuriates me and the front bit that says dell came off, I doubt it was put together right in the first place.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Perhaps relevant:

"My boomerang is home....and the solution was something I'd never heard of, so there is a chance it will help some of you.

First: Tried unplugging external drives as suggested. No help. 

Ran chkdsk again. No help.

Ran memtest66. No help

Scanned with Dell online hardware troubleshooter (My system is Vestros 470). Nope

Uninstalled all MS updates for last 2 months. Nope........At this stage was still getting freezes, BSOD, log off and shut down stalls. Decided  to try Resource monitor. Couldn't get anything useful (to me, at least) there, but saw a link to something in my Win7Pro system calledReliability monitor. Bingo! Showed some problems were Windows ("We're working on a solution and will get back to you when we find one"), but most were either the Dell datasafe (included with the system) or a program I had installed months before and forgotten about because I thought I hadn't activated it - a firewall call GlasswireI uninstalled both the Dell and Glasswire programs, and have been problem free for the last week...long enough to stop holding my breath. The takeaway here is the Reliability Monitor may be a good addition to your bag of tricks. Hope it helps. Thanks again to everyone for the many suggestions.

Larry Aronberg, DPM"

--tj

On Nov 18, 2015 10:57 AM, "Gillian Densmore" <[hidden email]> wrote:
I have no idea if the is the mailing list to ask

I have about enough of windows rebooting crashing and being a POS.

Is there anyway to get this crappy os to not insist on rebooting when I don't want. Or spamming me with adds about crap I don't want (Java updates and 10K spamware)
It's slower than cerillos traffic and sucking to use to the point that I'd rather chuck the damn box off a tall building  and hit it with a large mallet to the toon of the 1812 Overture.run it over and replace it with something that's actually fun and simple to use.

I have checked it's update settings. nothing stands out, the neither Avast or MS's Essentials reports malware or rootkits. Seven forums says uh just reformat and start over. I somehow doubt that'd fix it.




-G


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Re: Windows Q

Gillian Densmore
Nope it's still rebooting becaus---reasons even after suggesting it redo what ever idiot update it seemed to want.All the damn automatic reboot now messages I can find are unecked I just want the idiot thing to get throught it's head: ask me before rebooting so I don't loose work and don't even think about it otherwise.


On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:
Even though at this point I have little trust in the Del. Reliability monitor shows there's some some kind of hardware issue and one of the updates installed twice.

The damn thing infuriates me and the front bit that says dell came off, I doubt it was put together right in the first place.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Perhaps relevant:

"My boomerang is home....and the solution was something I'd never heard of, so there is a chance it will help some of you.

First: Tried unplugging external drives as suggested. No help. 

Ran chkdsk again. No help.

Ran memtest66. No help

Scanned with Dell online hardware troubleshooter (My system is Vestros 470). Nope

Uninstalled all MS updates for last 2 months. Nope........At this stage was still getting freezes, BSOD, log off and shut down stalls. Decided  to try Resource monitor. Couldn't get anything useful (to me, at least) there, but saw a link to something in my Win7Pro system calledReliability monitor. Bingo! Showed some problems were Windows ("We're working on a solution and will get back to you when we find one"), but most were either the Dell datasafe (included with the system) or a program I had installed months before and forgotten about because I thought I hadn't activated it - a firewall call GlasswireI uninstalled both the Dell and Glasswire programs, and have been problem free for the last week...long enough to stop holding my breath. The takeaway here is the Reliability Monitor may be a good addition to your bag of tricks. Hope it helps. Thanks again to everyone for the many suggestions.

Larry Aronberg, DPM"

--tj

On Nov 18, 2015 10:57 AM, "Gillian Densmore" <[hidden email]> wrote:
I have no idea if the is the mailing list to ask

I have about enough of windows rebooting crashing and being a POS.

Is there anyway to get this crappy os to not insist on rebooting when I don't want. Or spamming me with adds about crap I don't want (Java updates and 10K spamware)
It's slower than cerillos traffic and sucking to use to the point that I'd rather chuck the damn box off a tall building  and hit it with a large mallet to the toon of the 1812 Overture.run it over and replace it with something that's actually fun and simple to use.

I have checked it's update settings. nothing stands out, the neither Avast or MS's Essentials reports malware or rootkits. Seven forums says uh just reformat and start over. I somehow doubt that'd fix it.




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Re: Windows Q

Owen Densmore
Administrator
I may have missed this: did you do a clean reinstall of the latest? It's a pain, but getting easier every day with cloud and app stores.

You need to backup first, naturally, to an external drive. But I think its generally worth the trouble.

   -- Owen

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:
Nope it's still rebooting becaus---reasons even after suggesting it redo what ever idiot update it seemed to want.All the damn automatic reboot now messages I can find are unecked I just want the idiot thing to get throught it's head: ask me before rebooting so I don't loose work and don't even think about it otherwise.


On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:
Even though at this point I have little trust in the Del. Reliability monitor shows there's some some kind of hardware issue and one of the updates installed twice.

The damn thing infuriates me and the front bit that says dell came off, I doubt it was put together right in the first place.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Perhaps relevant:

"My boomerang is home....and the solution was something I'd never heard of, so there is a chance it will help some of you.

First: Tried unplugging external drives as suggested. No help. 

Ran chkdsk again. No help.

Ran memtest66. No help

Scanned with Dell online hardware troubleshooter (My system is Vestros 470). Nope

Uninstalled all MS updates for last 2 months. Nope........At this stage was still getting freezes, BSOD, log off and shut down stalls. Decided  to try Resource monitor. Couldn't get anything useful (to me, at least) there, but saw a link to something in my Win7Pro system calledReliability monitor. Bingo! Showed some problems were Windows ("We're working on a solution and will get back to you when we find one"), but most were either the Dell datasafe (included with the system) or a program I had installed months before and forgotten about because I thought I hadn't activated it - a firewall call GlasswireI uninstalled both the Dell and Glasswire programs, and have been problem free for the last week...long enough to stop holding my breath. The takeaway here is the Reliability Monitor may be a good addition to your bag of tricks. Hope it helps. Thanks again to everyone for the many suggestions.

Larry Aronberg, DPM"

--tj

On Nov 18, 2015 10:57 AM, "Gillian Densmore" <[hidden email]> wrote:
I have no idea if the is the mailing list to ask

I have about enough of windows rebooting crashing and being a POS.

Is there anyway to get this crappy os to not insist on rebooting when I don't want. Or spamming me with adds about crap I don't want (Java updates and 10K spamware)
It's slower than cerillos traffic and sucking to use to the point that I'd rather chuck the damn box off a tall building  and hit it with a large mallet to the toon of the 1812 Overture.run it over and replace it with something that's actually fun and simple to use.

I have checked it's update settings. nothing stands out, the neither Avast or MS's Essentials reports malware or rootkits. Seven forums says uh just reformat and start over. I somehow doubt that'd fix it.




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Re: Windows Q

Gillian Densmore
I have an enormous  drive easily 1TB worth of projects.. To back up the cloud I'd need about 1.2-1.5TB so as it all fits.

Though I suspect that's more for what external drive is for.

I do no not trust my dell to do anything. At all. I do not like and nor  do I trust it at all. I just want a fun to use functional computer and I have no idea why that seems to be asking to much of the universe.

For example I found out yesterday it rebooted again. No error message or anything. No updates. just reboot. Reliability monitor doesn't say what the hell happend. Fortunatly I had saved my work. But this is getting stupid.

I have gone through every conceivable setting I know about, yet it still does it.

I have killed every process I know of. I despise the unexpected when it comes to computing.
I loathe using this dell. It makes my blood boil. because I can't rely on it to not show Doom.

I suspect this is turning into a face to face chat thing as compared to attempting to solve the issue on a mail list of PHD's.

I have now also put as much money and energy into fixing the damn thing as it originally cost.

 It's a 10 year old poorly constructed computer with an OS and Hardware  made by companies that are infamous lying assholes.
Put frankly both Dell and MS are dishonorable scum. MS Ironically looks to be changing that.

 I'm now in the market for external USB drive, and have no clue which ones are reliable

I also have no clue if there's a easy and reliable app for Windows back ups when I last checked on CNET, Tom's Hardware and StackExchange  they didn't seem to have much good to say about any of them.






On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Owen Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:
I may have missed this: did you do a clean reinstall of the latest? It's a pain, but getting easier every day with cloud and app stores.

You need to backup first, naturally, to an external drive. But I think its generally worth the trouble.

   -- Owen

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:
Nope it's still rebooting becaus---reasons even after suggesting it redo what ever idiot update it seemed to want.All the damn automatic reboot now messages I can find are unecked I just want the idiot thing to get throught it's head: ask me before rebooting so I don't loose work and don't even think about it otherwise.


On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:
Even though at this point I have little trust in the Del. Reliability monitor shows there's some some kind of hardware issue and one of the updates installed twice.

The damn thing infuriates me and the front bit that says dell came off, I doubt it was put together right in the first place.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Perhaps relevant:

"My boomerang is home....and the solution was something I'd never heard of, so there is a chance it will help some of you.

First: Tried unplugging external drives as suggested. No help. 

Ran chkdsk again. No help.

Ran memtest66. No help

Scanned with Dell online hardware troubleshooter (My system is Vestros 470). Nope

Uninstalled all MS updates for last 2 months. Nope........At this stage was still getting freezes, BSOD, log off and shut down stalls. Decided  to try Resource monitor. Couldn't get anything useful (to me, at least) there, but saw a link to something in my Win7Pro system calledReliability monitor. Bingo! Showed some problems were Windows ("We're working on a solution and will get back to you when we find one"), but most were either the Dell datasafe (included with the system) or a program I had installed months before and forgotten about because I thought I hadn't activated it - a firewall call GlasswireI uninstalled both the Dell and Glasswire programs, and have been problem free for the last week...long enough to stop holding my breath. The takeaway here is the Reliability Monitor may be a good addition to your bag of tricks. Hope it helps. Thanks again to everyone for the many suggestions.

Larry Aronberg, DPM"

--tj

On Nov 18, 2015 10:57 AM, "Gillian Densmore" <[hidden email]> wrote:
I have no idea if the is the mailing list to ask

I have about enough of windows rebooting crashing and being a POS.

Is there anyway to get this crappy os to not insist on rebooting when I don't want. Or spamming me with adds about crap I don't want (Java updates and 10K spamware)
It's slower than cerillos traffic and sucking to use to the point that I'd rather chuck the damn box off a tall building  and hit it with a large mallet to the toon of the 1812 Overture.run it over and replace it with something that's actually fun and simple to use.

I have checked it's update settings. nothing stands out, the neither Avast or MS's Essentials reports malware or rootkits. Seven forums says uh just reformat and start over. I somehow doubt that'd fix it.




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Re: [EXTERNAL] Windows Q

Parks, Raymond
This page <http://techreport.com/review/28111/tr-april-2015-peripheral-staff-picks/5>  has some recommendations for backup options.  I use the ThermalTake system with a combination of new and old drives.  I use Windows backup and test frequently.  I also do manual backups (basically copy directories).  I have not done anything with CrashPlan.

If it were my computer, I would check that the power supply is working correctly.  The type of problems you are reporting have been power supply problems in my past experience - hardware, but not the hardware that the OS and tools know how to check.  I don't know of a software or OS method for doing that - the only scientific way I know is to get an O-scope and check the power output lines over time.  Since replacement power supplies are cheaper than O-Scopes, I have, in the past, simply purchased a replacement, installed it, and had success with fixing the type of failures you describe.

This <http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139049> is what I used to get a failing Dell consumer desktop to work correctly.

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On Nov 29, 2015, at 10:10 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote:

I have an enormous  drive easily 1TB worth of projects.. To back up the cloud I'd need about 1.2-1.5TB so as it all fits.

Though I suspect that's more for what external drive is for.

I do no not trust my dell to do anything. At all. I do not like and nor  do I trust it at all. I just want a fun to use functional computer and I have no idea why that seems to be asking to much of the universe.

For example I found out yesterday it rebooted again. No error message or anything. No updates. just reboot. Reliability monitor doesn't say what the hell happend. Fortunatly I had saved my work. But this is getting stupid.

I have gone through every conceivable setting I know about, yet it still does it.

I have killed every process I know of. I despise the unexpected when it comes to computing.
I loathe using this dell. It makes my blood boil. because I can't rely on it to not show Doom.

I suspect this is turning into a face to face chat thing as compared to attempting to solve the issue on a mail list of PHD's.

I have now also put as much money and energy into fixing the damn thing as it originally cost.

 It's a 10 year old poorly constructed computer with an OS and Hardware  made by companies that are infamous lying assholes.
Put frankly both Dell and MS are dishonorable scum. MS Ironically looks to be changing that.

 I'm now in the market for external USB drive, and have no clue which ones are reliable

I also have no clue if there's a easy and reliable app for Windows back ups when I last checked on CNET, Tom's Hardware and StackExchange  they didn't seem to have much good to say about any of them.






On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Owen Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:
I may have missed this: did you do a clean reinstall of the latest? It's a pain, but getting easier every day with cloud and app stores.

You need to backup first, naturally, to an external drive. But I think its generally worth the trouble.

   -- Owen

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:
Nope it's still rebooting becaus---reasons even after suggesting it redo what ever idiot update it seemed to want.All the damn automatic reboot now messages I can find are unecked I just want the idiot thing to get throught it's head: ask me before rebooting so I don't loose work and don't even think about it otherwise.


On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:
Even though at this point I have little trust in the Del. Reliability monitor shows there's some some kind of hardware issue and one of the updates installed twice.

The damn thing infuriates me and the front bit that says dell came off, I doubt it was put together right in the first place.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Perhaps relevant:

"My boomerang is home....and the solution was something I'd never heard of, so there is a chance it will help some of you.

First: Tried unplugging external drives as suggested. No help. 

Ran chkdsk again. No help.

Ran memtest66. No help

Scanned with Dell online hardware troubleshooter (My system is Vestros 470). Nope

Uninstalled all MS updates for last 2 months. Nope........At this stage was still getting freezes, BSOD, log off and shut down stalls. Decided  to try Resource monitor. Couldn't get anything useful (to me, at least) there, but saw a link to something in my Win7Pro system calledReliability monitor. Bingo! Showed some problems were Windows ("We're working on a solution and will get back to you when we find one"), but most were either the Dell datasafe (included with the system) or a program I had installed months before and forgotten about because I thought I hadn't activated it - a firewall call GlasswireI uninstalled both the Dell and Glasswire programs, and have been problem free for the last week...long enough to stop holding my breath. The takeaway here is the Reliability Monitor may be a good addition to your bag of tricks. Hope it helps. Thanks again to everyone for the many suggestions.

Larry Aronberg, DPM"

--tj

On Nov 18, 2015 10:57 AM, "Gillian Densmore" <[hidden email]> wrote:
I have no idea if the is the mailing list to ask

I have about enough of windows rebooting crashing and being a POS.

Is there anyway to get this crappy os to not insist on rebooting when I don't want. Or spamming me with adds about crap I don't want (Java updates and 10K spamware)
It's slower than cerillos traffic and sucking to use to the point that I'd rather chuck the damn box off a tall building  and hit it with a large mallet to the toon of the 1812 Overture.run it over and replace it with something that's actually fun and simple to use.

I have checked it's update settings. nothing stands out, the neither Avast or MS's Essentials reports malware or rootkits. Seven forums says uh just reformat and start over. I somehow doubt that'd fix it.




-G


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