What do we do Now?

[Frank Wimberly-2]

Wasn't that a recent thread?

Here's a suggestion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW0NguMGIbE

Frank

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[Alfredo Covaleda Vélez-2]

Maybe Trump’s presidency and Brexit, will lead to the end of Globalization. Movement of capitals, people, goods and services are key elements in the actual global order. Your next president trusts in a closed economy to improve US home´s incomes . Maybe he is supposing a local consume which will be enough to improve internal economy. He pretends to make capitals to return back or attract new ones to USA. But, I’m not sure if talking loud and being rough is enough to improve economy. USA minimum wage is around $7.95/hour while in my lovely third world country, for example, it is $0.99/hour. I guess manufacturing in USA is expensive, even more if he will increase the minimum wage (just a little) as he said during campaign, and even more if he avoid some kind of immigrants, who are cheap workers inside USA boundaries and help to reduce costs in some part of the production chain. Maybe Trump does not understand what is competitiveness because he is not an industrial, he is just a real estates and entertainment man. I wonder if improving infrastructure can help to create 13 millions of jobs. ¿Where does money come from to build or repairing bridges and highways? He has said he will reduce number of taxes and abolish some others. He criticized Hillary because of his connections to Wall Street, and now he chooses a former executive of Goldman Sachs for Treasure Department. ¿Where is the difference?

 

 

Managing economy like a real estate business is not the worst part, maybe there is a little probability he will succeed, but I don´t think he will. Probably the worst of everything is that he has already generated negative social impacts and probably he will make to lose US social achievements. He has already increased local racism tensions giving steps back in the construction of a civilized nation. Somewhere I read that the woman elected by Trump to be chief at the Department of Education, was the first person who transferred public budgets to private education. It is a bad sign. Starting from his position as Climate change denial, not only regulation will be weak, but some kinds of scientific research will lack of support. It is bad, if factories from China will return to USA, USA will be again the most pollutant country in the world.

 

He has already achieved a lose of confidence and respectful from the «friendly world» with respect to USA, and I am sure it is a factor when people make consume decisions (my next pair of shoes will not be wolverine brand).

 

11/09 was not the break point, nor 2007 - 2008 financial crisis. Maybe Trump’s presidency and Brexit are an inflection point.  

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

Wasn't that a recent thread?

Here's a suggestion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW0NguMGIbE

Frank

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[Alfredo Covaleda Vélez-2]

Sorry Frank. My post loose the point. Speech is correct, is people who can make a difference. 

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Alfredo Covaleda Vélez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Maybe Trump’s presidency and Brexit, will lead to the end of Globalization. Movement of capitals, people, goods and services are key elements in the actual global order. Your next president trusts in a closed economy to improve US home´s incomes . Maybe he is supposing a local consume which will be enough to improve internal economy. He pretends to make capitals to return back or attract new ones to USA. But, I’m not sure if talking loud and being rough is enough to improve economy. USA minimum wage is around $7.95/hour while in my lovely third world country, for example, it is $0.99/hour. I guess manufacturing in USA is expensive, even more if he will increase the minimum wage (just a little) as he said during campaign, and even more if he avoid some kind of immigrants, who are cheap workers inside USA boundaries and help to reduce costs in some part of the production chain. Maybe Trump does not understand what is competitiveness because he is not an industrial, he is just a real estates and entertainment man. I wonder if improving infrastructure can help to create 13 millions of jobs. ¿Where does money come from to build or repairing bridges and highways? He has said he will reduce number of taxes and abolish some others. He criticized Hillary because of his connections to Wall Street, and now he chooses a former executive of Goldman Sachs for Treasure Department. ¿Where is the difference?

 

 

Managing economy like a real estate business is not the worst part, maybe there is a little probability he will succeed, but I don´t think he will. Probably the worst of everything is that he has already generated negative social impacts and probably he will make to lose US social achievements. He has already increased local racism tensions giving steps back in the construction of a civilized nation. Somewhere I read that the woman elected by Trump to be chief at the Department of Education, was the first person who transferred public budgets to private education. It is a bad sign. Starting from his position as Climate change denial, not only regulation will be weak, but some kinds of scientific research will lack of support. It is bad, if factories from China will return to USA, USA will be again the most pollutant country in the world.

 

He has already achieved a lose of confidence and respectful from the «friendly world» with respect to USA, and I am sure it is a factor when people make consume decisions (my next pair of shoes will not be wolverine brand).

 

11/09 was not the break point, nor 2007 - 2008 financial crisis. Maybe Trump’s presidency and Brexit are an inflection point.  

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

Wasn't that a recent thread?

Here's a suggestion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW0NguMGIbE

Frank

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[Marcus G. Daniels]

Alfredo writes:

“He has already achieved a lose of confidence and respectful from the «friendly world» with respect to USA, and I am sure it is a factor when people make consume decisions (my next pair of shoes will not be wolverine brand).”

Yes, Bremmer neglected to mention “4 – Laughing Stock America”.    In Laughing Stock America where ham-handed policies protect unskilled but entitled white U.S. workers, it is not just companies that have trouble finding customers in the global marketplace.   Skilled U.S. workers are not only put in a bad light compared to their international competition, but actively impeded from finding work in the global marketplace.

 

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[Frank Wimberly-2]

No te preocupes, Alfredo.

 

 

Frank C. Wimberly

140 Calle Ojo Feliz

Santa Fe, NM 87505

 

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From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Alfredo Covaleda Vélez
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 10:20 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] What do we do Now?

 

Sorry Frank. My post loose the point. Speech is correct, is people who can make a difference. 

 

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Alfredo Covaleda Vélez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Maybe Trump’s presidency and Brexit, will lead to the end of Globalization. Movement of capitals, people, goods and services are key elements in the actual global order. Your next president trusts in a closed economy to improve US home´s incomes . Maybe he is supposing a local consume which will be enough to improve internal economy. He pretends to make capitals to return back or attract new ones to USA. But, I’m not sure if talking loud and being rough is enough to improve economy. USA minimum wage is around $7.95/hour while in my lovely third world country, for example, it is $0.99/hour. I guess manufacturing in USA is expensive, even more if he will increase the minimum wage (just a little) as he said during campaign, and even more if he avoid some kind of immigrants, who are cheap workers inside USA boundaries and help to reduce costs in some part of the production chain. Maybe Trump does not understand what is competitiveness because he is not an industrial, he is just a real estates and entertainment man. I wonder if improving infrastructure can help to create 13 millions of jobs. ¿Where does money come from to build or repairing bridges and highways? He has said he will reduce number of taxes and abolish some others. He criticized Hillary because of his connections to Wall Street, and now he chooses a former executive of Goldman Sachs for Treasure Department. ¿Where is the difference?

 

 

Managing economy like a real estate business is not the worst part, maybe there is a little probability he will succeed, but I don´t think he will. Probably the worst of everything is that he has already generated negative social impacts and probably he will make to lose US social achievements. He has already increased local racism tensions giving steps back in the construction of a civilized nation. Somewhere I read that the woman elected by Trump to be chief at the Department of Education, was the first person who transferred public budgets to private education. It is a bad sign. Starting from his position as Climate change denial, not only regulation will be weak, but some kinds of scientific research will lack of support. It is bad, if factories from China will return to USA, USA will be again the most pollutant country in the world.

 

He has already achieved a lose of confidence and respectful from the «friendly world» with respect to USA, and I am sure it is a factor when people make consume decisions (my next pair of shoes will not be wolverine brand).

 

11/09 was not the break point, nor 2007 - 2008 financial crisis. Maybe Trump’s presidency and Brexit are an inflection point.  

 

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

Wasn't that a recent thread?

 

Here's a suggestion:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW0NguMGIbE

 

Frank

 

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Phone <a href="tel:(505)%20670-9918" target="_blank">[phone]

 

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[Owen Densmore]

Hey, very similar to Italian: Non preoccuparti.

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

No te preocupes, Alfredo.

 

 

Frank C. Wimberly

140 Calle Ojo Feliz

Santa Fe, NM 87505

 

[hidden email]     [hidden email]

Phone:  <a href="tel:(505)%20995-8715" value="[phone]" target="_blank">[phone]      Cell:  <a href="tel:(505)%20670-9918" value="[phone]" target="_blank">[phone]

 

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Alfredo Covaleda Vélez
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 10:20 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] What do we do Now?

 

Sorry Frank. My post loose the point. Speech is correct, is people who can make a difference. 

 

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Alfredo Covaleda Vélez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Maybe Trump’s presidency and Brexit, will lead to the end of Globalization. Movement of capitals, people, goods and services are key elements in the actual global order. Your next president trusts in a closed economy to improve US home´s incomes . Maybe he is supposing a local consume which will be enough to improve internal economy. He pretends to make capitals to return back or attract new ones to USA. But, I’m not sure if talking loud and being rough is enough to improve economy. USA minimum wage is around $7.95/hour while in my lovely third world country, for example, it is $0.99/hour. I guess manufacturing in USA is expensive, even more if he will increase the minimum wage (just a little) as he said during campaign, and even more if he avoid some kind of immigrants, who are cheap workers inside USA boundaries and help to reduce costs in some part of the production chain. Maybe Trump does not understand what is competitiveness because he is not an industrial, he is just a real estates and entertainment man. I wonder if improving infrastructure can help to create 13 millions of jobs. ¿Where does money come from to build or repairing bridges and highways? He has said he will reduce number of taxes and abolish some others. He criticized Hillary because of his connections to Wall Street, and now he chooses a former executive of Goldman Sachs for Treasure Department. ¿Where is the difference?

 

 

Managing economy like a real estate business is not the worst part, maybe there is a little probability he will succeed, but I don´t think he will. Probably the worst of everything is that he has already generated negative social impacts and probably he will make to lose US social achievements. He has already increased local racism tensions giving steps back in the construction of a civilized nation. Somewhere I read that the woman elected by Trump to be chief at the Department of Education, was the first person who transferred public budgets to private education. It is a bad sign. Starting from his position as Climate change denial, not only regulation will be weak, but some kinds of scientific research will lack of support. It is bad, if factories from China will return to USA, USA will be again the most pollutant country in the world.

 

He has already achieved a lose of confidence and respectful from the «friendly world» with respect to USA, and I am sure it is a factor when people make consume decisions (my next pair of shoes will not be wolverine brand).

 

11/09 was not the break point, nor 2007 - 2008 financial crisis. Maybe Trump’s presidency and Brexit are an inflection point.  

 

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

Wasn't that a recent thread?

 

Here's a suggestion:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW0NguMGIbE

 

Frank

 

Frank Wimberly
Phone <a href="tel:(505)%20670-9918" target="_blank">[phone]

 

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[Frank Wimberly-2]

Oversimplification: Italian is vernacular Latin; Spanish is the same with an infusion of Arabic.

On Jan 8, 2017 12:44 PM, "Owen Densmore" <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hey, very similar to Italian: Non preoccuparti.

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

No te preocupes, Alfredo.

 

 

Frank C. Wimberly

140 Calle Ojo Feliz

Santa Fe, NM 87505

 

[hidden email]     [hidden email]

Phone:  <a href="tel:(505)%20995-8715" value="[phone]" target="_blank">[phone]      Cell:  <a href="tel:(505)%20670-9918" value="[phone]" target="_blank">[phone]

 

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Alfredo Covaleda Vélez
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 10:20 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] What do we do Now?

 

Sorry Frank. My post loose the point. Speech is correct, is people who can make a difference. 

 

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Alfredo Covaleda Vélez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Maybe Trump’s presidency and Brexit, will lead to the end of Globalization. Movement of capitals, people, goods and services are key elements in the actual global order. Your next president trusts in a closed economy to improve US home´s incomes . Maybe he is supposing a local consume which will be enough to improve internal economy. He pretends to make capitals to return back or attract new ones to USA. But, I’m not sure if talking loud and being rough is enough to improve economy. USA minimum wage is around $7.95/hour while in my lovely third world country, for example, it is $0.99/hour. I guess manufacturing in USA is expensive, even more if he will increase the minimum wage (just a little) as he said during campaign, and even more if he avoid some kind of immigrants, who are cheap workers inside USA boundaries and help to reduce costs in some part of the production chain. Maybe Trump does not understand what is competitiveness because he is not an industrial, he is just a real estates and entertainment man. I wonder if improving infrastructure can help to create 13 millions of jobs. ¿Where does money come from to build or repairing bridges and highways? He has said he will reduce number of taxes and abolish some others. He criticized Hillary because of his connections to Wall Street, and now he chooses a former executive of Goldman Sachs for Treasure Department. ¿Where is the difference?

 

 

Managing economy like a real estate business is not the worst part, maybe there is a little probability he will succeed, but I don´t think he will. Probably the worst of everything is that he has already generated negative social impacts and probably he will make to lose US social achievements. He has already increased local racism tensions giving steps back in the construction of a civilized nation. Somewhere I read that the woman elected by Trump to be chief at the Department of Education, was the first person who transferred public budgets to private education. It is a bad sign. Starting from his position as Climate change denial, not only regulation will be weak, but some kinds of scientific research will lack of support. It is bad, if factories from China will return to USA, USA will be again the most pollutant country in the world.

 

He has already achieved a lose of confidence and respectful from the «friendly world» with respect to USA, and I am sure it is a factor when people make consume decisions (my next pair of shoes will not be wolverine brand).

 

11/09 was not the break point, nor 2007 - 2008 financial crisis. Maybe Trump’s presidency and Brexit are an inflection point.  

 

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

Wasn't that a recent thread?

 

Here's a suggestion:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW0NguMGIbE

 

Frank

 

Frank Wimberly
Phone <a href="tel:(505)%20670-9918" target="_blank">[phone]

 

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[Alfredo Covaleda Vélez-2]

There have been many Romance Languages. I don´t know if all of them are still "alive".

http://www.proel.org/index.php?pagina=mundo/indoeuro/italico/romance

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

Oversimplification: Italian is vernacular Latin; Spanish is the same with an infusion of Arabic.

On Jan 8, 2017 12:44 PM, "Owen Densmore" <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hey, very similar to Italian: Non preoccuparti.

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

No te preocupes, Alfredo.

 

 

Frank C. Wimberly

140 Calle Ojo Feliz

Santa Fe, NM 87505

 

[hidden email]     [hidden email]

Phone:  <a href="tel:(505)%20995-8715" value="[phone]" target="_blank">[phone]      Cell:  <a href="tel:(505)%20670-9918" value="[phone]" target="_blank">[phone]

 

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Alfredo Covaleda Vélez
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 10:20 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] What do we do Now?

 

Sorry Frank. My post loose the point. Speech is correct, is people who can make a difference. 

 

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Alfredo Covaleda Vélez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Maybe Trump’s presidency and Brexit, will lead to the end of Globalization. Movement of capitals, people, goods and services are key elements in the actual global order. Your next president trusts in a closed economy to improve US home´s incomes . Maybe he is supposing a local consume which will be enough to improve internal economy. He pretends to make capitals to return back or attract new ones to USA. But, I’m not sure if talking loud and being rough is enough to improve economy. USA minimum wage is around $7.95/hour while in my lovely third world country, for example, it is $0.99/hour. I guess manufacturing in USA is expensive, even more if he will increase the minimum wage (just a little) as he said during campaign, and even more if he avoid some kind of immigrants, who are cheap workers inside USA boundaries and help to reduce costs in some part of the production chain. Maybe Trump does not understand what is competitiveness because he is not an industrial, he is just a real estates and entertainment man. I wonder if improving infrastructure can help to create 13 millions of jobs. ¿Where does money come from to build or repairing bridges and highways? He has said he will reduce number of taxes and abolish some others. He criticized Hillary because of his connections to Wall Street, and now he chooses a former executive of Goldman Sachs for Treasure Department. ¿Where is the difference?

 

 

Managing economy like a real estate business is not the worst part, maybe there is a little probability he will succeed, but I don´t think he will. Probably the worst of everything is that he has already generated negative social impacts and probably he will make to lose US social achievements. He has already increased local racism tensions giving steps back in the construction of a civilized nation. Somewhere I read that the woman elected by Trump to be chief at the Department of Education, was the first person who transferred public budgets to private education. It is a bad sign. Starting from his position as Climate change denial, not only regulation will be weak, but some kinds of scientific research will lack of support. It is bad, if factories from China will return to USA, USA will be again the most pollutant country in the world.

 

He has already achieved a lose of confidence and respectful from the «friendly world» with respect to USA, and I am sure it is a factor when people make consume decisions (my next pair of shoes will not be wolverine brand).

 

11/09 was not the break point, nor 2007 - 2008 financial crisis. Maybe Trump’s presidency and Brexit are an inflection point.  

 

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

Wasn't that a recent thread?

 

Here's a suggestion:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW0NguMGIbE

 

Frank

 

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[Alfredo Covaleda Vélez-2]

Improve education.

2015 Pisa results.

http://oecdobserver.org/news/fullstory.php/aid/5707/The_PISA_2015_scorecard:_Must_do_better_on_inequality.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=e-mail&utm_campaign=OECD%252BObserver%252Be-Alert%252BIssue%252B114

"These include high-performing education systems, such as Singapore and Macao (China), and low-performers, such as Peru and Colombia". (OCDE; 2017)

"The problem of widening inequality remains striking in developed countries: although Canada, Denmark, Estonia, Hong Kong (China) and Macao (China) achieve high levels of equity in education outcomes, and while equity has improved in the US, poorer students are still three times more likely to be low performers than wealthier students. As for immigrant students, they are more than twice as likely as non-immigrants to be low achievers. In the Czech Republic and France, the impact of socio-economic status on performance is particularly large". (OCDE; 2017)

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

Wasn't that a recent thread?

Here's a suggestion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW0NguMGIbE

Frank

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[Marcus G. Daniels]

From a population perspective, inequality in education isn’t necessarily bad if what is really happening is that entropy of skill sets is maximized.  (For one thing, it presumes that there are experts in every crevice and nuance of expertise, and that those individuals would rather be teachers than perform their craft.)   One way this could be manifest is in a thriving service economy.   If someone can make a business selling $10 cups of ice cream, doing custom metalworking for old cars, or designing plasma injectors, or all of these at various times, that is a good thing.  One can have many depth-first experiences with self-directed learning (and skill development) or an extended experiences with a broader set of topics.   What I think the liberal arts enthusiasts fail to recognize is that integrating disparate concepts leads to a desire to fill in the holes, and more self-directed learning.   This sort of thing is sustainable if the work environment is right.  Coming up with $60k a year for good liberal arts school, not so much.   Motivation has a role in intelligence.  If motivation isn’t nurtured, people won’t even think to try.   There needs to be more paths to ratchet ones way into the economy and to get appropriate kinds of education and experiences.

 

To the rural conservative, their world entertains a lower number of low energy degenerate states.   Sure, education may make more low-ish energy states evident, but in a spatially isolated region with a limited set of consumers, there won’t be (or seem to be) any practical way to exercise unusual sorts of economic activity.   Their business isn’t on a busy city street with hundreds of people walking by every hour.   However, one could argue that this could be the case in the world of the Internet and next delivery with FedEx and UPS.  Doing that requires some imagination and modelling of the world outside the one they see.   I see the active suppression of this kind of imagination as one of the big problems for people in this situation. 

 

Marcus

 

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Alfredo Covaleda Vélez
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Improve education.

2015 Pisa results.

http://oecdobserver.org/news/fullstory.php/aid/5707/The_PISA_2015_scorecard:_Must_do_better_on_inequality.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=e-mail&utm_campaign=OECD%252BObserver%252Be-Alert%252BIssue%252B114

"These include high-performing education systems, such as Singapore and Macao (China), and low-performers, such as Peru and Colombia". (OCDE; 2017)

"The problem of widening inequality remains striking in developed countries: although Canada, Denmark, Estonia, Hong Kong (China) and Macao (China) achieve high levels of equity in education outcomes, and while equity has improved in the US, poorer students are still three times more likely to be low performers than wealthier students. As for immigrant students, they are more than twice as likely as non-immigrants to be low achievers. In the Czech Republic and France, the impact of socio-economic status on performance is particularly large". (OCDE; 2017)

 

 

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

Wasn't that a recent thread?

 

Here's a suggestion:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW0NguMGIbE

 

Frank

 

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