Web, Email, Textediting: < 2lb & reasonable display.

[Owen Densmore]

I've noticed an interesting phenomenon lately: the *really* tiny  
laptop market seems to have dried up.  I used two really small  
laptops a couple of years back: the Toshiba Libretto, and a 2 lb  
version of the early Toshiba Portege.

I think the reason is that Laptops have become the primary computer  
for many of us, thus typically comes in a fairly complete form  
factor.  Even the Mac 12" powerbook is > 4lb and a bit bulky compared  
to the two above.

So I have been looking around for a good "pocket book" sort of  
computer .. at least 800x600 screen with enough guts to become a  
carry-everywhere web, email and editing critter.  .. and something  
that a laptop owner would still find an interesting adjunct to their  
computing world.

Anyone know of such a critter?  I was hoping the PSP or some sort of  
large hand-held would fill the bill but I haven't found one  
googling.  My phone (Treo) does all this but too poorly for anything  
but emergencies.

     -- Owen

Owen Densmore
http://backspaces.net - http://redfish.com - http://friam.org

[Roger Critchlow-2]

On 12/5/05, Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net> wrote:
> I've noticed an interesting phenomenon lately: the *really* tiny
> laptop market seems to have dried up.  I used two really small
> laptops a couple of years back: the Toshiba Libretto, and a 2 lb
> version of the early Toshiba Portege.
>
> I think the reason is that Laptops have become the primary computer
> for many of us, thus typically comes in a fairly complete form
> factor.  Even the Mac 12" powerbook is > 4lb and a bit bulky compared
> to the two above.

Averatec has a 10.6" WXGA model 1000, weighing 3.6 lbs.  It's a 1.1GHz
ULV Pentium-M, so maybe it won't melt the solder off the motherboard.
I haven't seen one, I just stumbled across it on www.averatec.com.

-- rec --

[George Duncan]

I just got a ThinkPad X41 Tablet that I like quite a bit. Here's some cnet
reviews
http://reviews.cnet.com/ThinkPad_X41_Tablet/4505-3121_7-31398077.html It
weighs 3.6 pounds. Without the tablet feature the X41 is a pound lighter.



On 12/6/05, Roger Critchlow <rec at elf.org> wrote:

>
> On 12/5/05, Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net> wrote:
> > I've noticed an interesting phenomenon lately: the *really* tiny
> > laptop market seems to have dried up.  I used two really small
> > laptops a couple of years back: the Toshiba Libretto, and a 2 lb
> > version of the early Toshiba Portege.
> >
> > I think the reason is that Laptops have become the primary computer
> > for many of us, thus typically comes in a fairly complete form
> > factor.  Even the Mac 12" powerbook is > 4lb and a bit bulky compared
> > to the two above.
>
> Averatec has a 10.6" WXGA model 1000, weighing 3.6 lbs.  It's a 1.1GHz
> ULV Pentium-M, so maybe it won't melt the solder off the motherboard.
> I haven't seen one, I just stumbled across it on www.averatec.com.
>
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Heinz School of Public Policy and Management
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
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[Tim Densmore]

You might look at the fujitsu P series "lifebooks" -- linux geeks who
want ultraportability rave about them -- I took a look, but that's far
too small for me.  IIRC, Lenovo was also talking about adding a 10" to
the Thinkpad X series.

Thank you,
Tim Densmore

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entropy."
--Spider Robinson
On Dec 5, 2005, at 9:37 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:

> I've noticed an interesting phenomenon lately: the *really* tiny
> laptop market seems to have dried up.  I used two really small
> laptops a couple of years back: the Toshiba Libretto, and a 2 lb
> version of the early Toshiba Portege.
>
> I think the reason is that Laptops have become the primary computer
> for many of us, thus typically comes in a fairly complete form
> factor.  Even the Mac 12" powerbook is > 4lb and a bit bulky compared
> to the two above.
>
> So I have been looking around for a good "pocket book" sort of
> computer .. at least 800x600 screen with enough guts to become a
> carry-everywhere web, email and editing critter.  .. and something
> that a laptop owner would still find an interesting adjunct to their
> computing world.
>
> Anyone know of such a critter?  I was hoping the PSP or some sort of
> large hand-held would fill the bill but I haven't found one
> googling.  My phone (Treo) does all this but too poorly for anything
> but emergencies.
>
>      -- Owen
>
> Owen Densmore
> http://backspaces.net - http://redfish.com - http://friam.org
>
>
>
> ============================================================
> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at Mission Cafe
> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

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[Jochen Fromm-3]

A good small laptop is the IBM ThinkPad X41.
Some of my colleagues have one with Linux
(Ubuntu) installed. It is very leight, but
it does not have a CD or DVD drive (you have
to use network, USB stick or external CD/DVD drive)
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1823700,00.asp 

-J.

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Betreff: [FRIAM] Web, Email, Textediting: < 2lb & reasonable display.

I've noticed an interesting phenomenon lately: the *really* tiny  
laptop market seems to have dried up.  I used two really small  
laptops a couple of years back: the Toshiba Libretto, and a 2 lb  
version of the early Toshiba Portege.

I think the reason is that Laptops have become the primary computer  
for many of us, thus typically comes in a fairly complete form  
factor.  Even the Mac 12" powerbook is > 4lb and a bit bulky compared  
to the two above.

So I have been looking around for a good "pocket book" sort of  
computer .. at least 800x600 screen with enough guts to become a  
carry-everywhere web, email and editing critter.  .. and something  
that a laptop owner would still find an interesting adjunct to their  
computing world.

Anyone know of such a critter?  I was hoping the PSP or some sort of  
large hand-held would fill the bill but I haven't found one  
googling.  My phone (Treo) does all this but too poorly for anything  
but emergencies.

     -- Owen

[Roger Critchlow-2]

I've decided to resurrect this because the Nokia 770 just turned up on
slashdot.  What do you think:  $359.99, Linux, WiFi, widescreen
hiresolution display, onscreen keyboard, tiny, light, and it's sold
out.  Orders placed before 12/17/2005 are expected to ship by
1/20/2006 but Nokia is increasing its production.  Oh, and there's an
open source development site at http://www.maemo.org/.

Go ahead, Owen, give yourself a late christmas present and bring it to
Friam next month so we can see how it works.

http://europe.nokia.com/nokia/0,1522,,00.html?orig=/770

-- rec --

On 12/5/05, Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net> wrote:

> I've noticed an interesting phenomenon lately: the *really* tiny
> laptop market seems to have dried up.  I used two really small
> laptops a couple of years back: the Toshiba Libretto, and a 2 lb
> version of the early Toshiba Portege.
>
> I think the reason is that Laptops have become the primary computer
> for many of us, thus typically comes in a fairly complete form
> factor.  Even the Mac 12" powerbook is > 4lb and a bit bulky compared
> to the two above.
>
> So I have been looking around for a good "pocket book" sort of
> computer .. at least 800x600 screen with enough guts to become a
> carry-everywhere web, email and editing critter.  .. and something
> that a laptop owner would still find an interesting adjunct to their
> computing world.
>
> Anyone know of such a critter?  I was hoping the PSP or some sort of
> large hand-held would fill the bill but I haven't found one
> googling.  My phone (Treo) does all this but too poorly for anything
> but emergencies.
>
>      -- Owen
>
> Owen Densmore
> http://backspaces.net - http://redfish.com - http://friam.org
>
>
>
> ============================================================
> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at Mission Cafe
> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
>