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Owen Densmore
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Re: Vote: The future of our nation depends on it | Letters To Editor | santafenewmexican.com

Marcus G. Daniels

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/academia-is-a-cult/2018/10/31/eea787a0-bd08-11e8-b7d2-0773aa1e33da_story.html

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Re: Vote: The future of our nation depends on it | Letters To Editor | santafenewmexican.com

Nick Thompson
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Thanks, Owen,

 

I apologize that I was unable to get all nine names published.  The New Mexican will only publish two names.  Thanks to everybody who helped us edit the letter and encouraged us to see it through to publication. 

 

Nick

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

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Re: Vote: The future of our nation depends on it | Letters To Editor | santafenewmexican.com

Nick Thompson
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Hi, Marcus,

 

So, I take it, you èDon’tç think that “…the future safety and prosperity of our nation depends on...” getting more resources ”…to education at every level”?

 

My own view is (FWIW) that, despite the many faults you identify, some time in a college or university is a good idea for most people and that society gains from giving some highly-educated people the opportunity to pursue their curiosity pretty much unfettered.  I wish the professoriate was, as a rule, more grateful for the opportunities that academic freedom gives them  and less arrogant in the expression of their inexpert opinions.  I am an “alumnus” of the ferocious battle between the California republican party and the Berkeley campus activists of the sixties.  I am increasingly doubtful that recruitment for political action, in any sense, ought to be part of the portfolio of any professor.    I hate to say it, but Reagan may have won THAT argument.  The moat around the ivory tower may be part of the deal. 

 

What I would hate to see is that because of well-founded distaste for some academics’ behavior, people like yourself adopt a global contempt for education at every level. 

 

Nick 

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/academia-is-a-cult/2018/10/31/eea787a0-bd08-11e8-b7d2-0773aa1e33da_story.html

 

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Marcus G. Daniels

I think everyone should have the opportunity to pursue their curiosity pretty much unfettered.  That’s what prosperity depends upon.   To approximate this freedom by issuing public debt for education is too little and too late.   That said, I voted for the issuance of such debt even though I am suspicious of the organizations that could receive the money and the thinking of people that like these organizations.   (Of course, I am way more than suspicious of the other side.)  I would rather raise taxes to address mental health problems and to ensure a basic income because the zombie hoard is becoming a real danger.   Another idea is to discourage reproduction through tax incentives, recognizing there will be fewer jobs that can’t be automated.  Jobs like communicating crystallized knowledge to young people.  

 

From: Friam <[hidden email]> on behalf of Nick Thompson <[hidden email]>
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Hi, Marcus,

 

So, I take it, you èDon’tç think that “…the future safety and prosperity of our nation depends on...” getting more resources ”…to education at every level”?

 

My own view is (FWIW) that, despite the many faults you identify, some time in a college or university is a good idea for most people and that society gains from giving some highly-educated people the opportunity to pursue their curiosity pretty much unfettered.  I wish the professoriate was, as a rule, more grateful for the opportunities that academic freedom gives them  and less arrogant in the expression of their inexpert opinions.  I am an “alumnus” of the ferocious battle between the California republican party and the Berkeley campus activists of the sixties.  I am increasingly doubtful that recruitment for political action, in any sense, ought to be part of the portfolio of any professor.    I hate to say it, but Reagan may have won THAT argument.  The moat around the ivory tower may be part of the deal. 

 

What I would hate to see is that because of well-founded distaste for some academics’ behavior, people like yourself adopt a global contempt for education at every level. 

 

Nick 

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 10:00 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Vote: The future of our nation depends on it | Letters To Editor | santafenewmexican.com

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/academia-is-a-cult/2018/10/31/eea787a0-bd08-11e8-b7d2-0773aa1e33da_story.html

 

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Re: Vote: The future of our nation depends on it | Letters To Editor | santafenewmexican.com

Frank Wimberly-2
My experience of academia was very different from Marzoni's.  I wasn't in the humanities, however.

Frank

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On Sun, Nov 4, 2018, 12:13 PM Marcus Daniels <[hidden email] wrote:

I think everyone should have the opportunity to pursue their curiosity pretty much unfettered.  That’s what prosperity depends upon.   To approximate this freedom by issuing public debt for education is too little and too late.   That said, I voted for the issuance of such debt even though I am suspicious of the organizations that could receive the money and the thinking of people that like these organizations.   (Of course, I am way more than suspicious of the other side.)  I would rather raise taxes to address mental health problems and to ensure a basic income because the zombie hoard is becoming a real danger.   Another idea is to discourage reproduction through tax incentives, recognizing there will be fewer jobs that can’t be automated.  Jobs like communicating crystallized knowledge to young people.  

 

From: Friam <[hidden email]> on behalf of Nick Thompson <[hidden email]>
Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Date: Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 11:27 AM
To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Vote: The future of our nation depends on it | Letters To Editor | santafenewmexican.com

 

Hi, Marcus,

 

So, I take it, you èDon’tç think that “…the future safety and prosperity of our nation depends on...” getting more resources ”…to education at every level”?

 

My own view is (FWIW) that, despite the many faults you identify, some time in a college or university is a good idea for most people and that society gains from giving some highly-educated people the opportunity to pursue their curiosity pretty much unfettered.  I wish the professoriate was, as a rule, more grateful for the opportunities that academic freedom gives them  and less arrogant in the expression of their inexpert opinions.  I am an “alumnus” of the ferocious battle between the California republican party and the Berkeley campus activists of the sixties.  I am increasingly doubtful that recruitment for political action, in any sense, ought to be part of the portfolio of any professor.    I hate to say it, but Reagan may have won THAT argument.  The moat around the ivory tower may be part of the deal. 

 

What I would hate to see is that because of well-founded distaste for some academics’ behavior, people like yourself adopt a global contempt for education at every level. 

 

Nick 

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 10:00 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Vote: The future of our nation depends on it | Letters To Editor | santafenewmexican.com

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/academia-is-a-cult/2018/10/31/eea787a0-bd08-11e8-b7d2-0773aa1e33da_story.html

 

From: Friam <[hidden email]> on behalf of Owen Densmore <[hidden email]>
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Date: Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 9:34 AM
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