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So disjointed

Roger Critchlow-2
I wondered why the discussions on friam had been so incomplete lately.  Gmail was storing most of them in my spam folder, 32 threads spam canned in 30 days.

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Re: So disjointed

Frank Wimberly-2

You solved a problem for me, Roger.  I haven't gotten any mail from Nick for several weeks.  I could only see his messages when they were quoted in other emails.  I looked in my spam folder and there they were.  My Android mail client kindly asked me if I wanted to unblock the sender. 

Among other things I see that Nick gave a brief description of Hywel (pronounced Howell) as I did.

Thanks!

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On Mon, Nov 18, 2019, 9:43 PM Roger Critchlow <[hidden email]> wrote:
I wondered why the discussions on friam had been so incomplete lately.  Gmail was storing most of them in my spam folder, 32 threads spam canned in 30 days.

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Re: So disjointed

Barry MacKichan
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Aha! Maybe the singularity is here, and Google AI spam identifier knows
better than humans what communications are really important.

--Barry

On 18 Nov 2019, at 23:31, Roger Critchlow wrote:

> I wondered why the discussions on friam had been so incomplete lately.
> Gmail was storing most of them in my spam folder, 32 threads spam
> canned in
> 30 days.
>
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Re: So disjointed

Steve Smith
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It is interesting to speculate as to how much of the disjointedness of our discussions/threads here are the result of lossy communications at the remailer/spam-filter level.

After trying various spam-filter tools and heuristics back in the day when they first emerged, I settled on using Thunderbird's tools with the default that suspected spam is marked but not moved automatically.  This leads me to (usually) visually scan suspected spam, leaving the the chance to catch false positives.   I make it a habit to attempt to unsubscribe from mail lists I prefer NOT to get mail from before marking it as spam.  

I am fascinated by the contrast between the various qualities of the spam I do get and which types seem to elude my spam filter.

I myself do  experience what appears to be mail-reflector drops, recognizing them *mostly* by seeing larded comments in a reply that I did not see in it's original.   I also believe I sometimes experience *delays* where the original post does come through, but *after* one or more responses to it.   When larding is used well, this is not too confusing... unlarded/included responses can be puzzling.

I'm glad to hear that others here are not aware that their own spam filters may be contributing to the confusion.

I wondered why the discussions on friam had been so incomplete lately.  Gmail was storing most of them in my spam folder, 32 threads spam canned in 30 days.

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Re: So disjointed

Nick Thompson
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AND to whom they are important.  

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Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
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From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Barry MacKichan
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To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] So disjointed

Aha! Maybe the singularity is here, and Google AI spam identifier knows
better than humans what communications are really important.

--Barry

On 18 Nov 2019, at 23:31, Roger Critchlow wrote:

> I wondered why the discussions on friam had been so incomplete lately.
> Gmail was storing most of them in my spam folder, 32 threads spam
> canned in
> 30 days.
>
> -- rec --

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