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"... that you should already know how to use it, and that's bullshit!" She is
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I like this common aspect of technology. Not that it ought to be obvious like an iPhone (supposedly) but that it is just an artifact of nature and so preconceived intent is arbitrary. It does whatever it does and if you trust a claim, you don’t really know it, you just believe. Novelty arises from misuse.
> On Jan 19, 2021, at 1:13 PM, jon zingale <[hidden email]> wrote: > > "... that you should already know how to use it, and that's bullshit!" She is > amazing! I know she asked me not to subscribe, but it is hard not to. > > > > -- > Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ |
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Amazing! On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 3:55 PM uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Perhaps. Though I do find it sad that synthesizer design (for instance) so
quickly converged onto piano-like interfaces and the occasional switch pad. For a moment there in the 70s and 80s, thanks to explorative minds of people like the writers of ElectroNotes, there was the possibility of something more and not simply by novelty. I would often enjoy flipping through the journal and reading about reeded interfaces with nonlinear regimes and ideas that seemed to get closer to the heart of what it means to be an instrument. Wrestling and smacking the body of an acoustic instrument is nothing like wrestling and smacking the body of a Casio keyboard. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ |
ps. And just to be clear, I am agreeing with you.
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Ha! I was in the middle of a post saying that you were saying the same thing in different words. Circuit bending is the ultimate instrument creation abuse. It feels similar to phosphenes. But I'm also fond of rendering various (large) programs as audio in Audacity. A bit like audializing other serialized information like DNA.
On 1/20/21 6:48 AM, jon zingale wrote: > ps. And just to be clear, I am agreeing with you. On 1/20/21 6:37 AM, jon zingale wrote: > Perhaps. Though I do find it sad that synthesizer design (for instance) so > quickly converged onto piano-like interfaces and the occasional switch pad. > For a moment there in the 70s and 80s, thanks to explorative minds of people > like the writers of ElectroNotes, there was the possibility of something > more and not simply by novelty. I would often enjoy flipping through the > journal and reading about reeded interfaces with nonlinear regimes and ideas > that seemed to get closer to the heart of what it means to be an instrument. > Wrestling and smacking the body of an acoustic instrument is nothing like > wrestling and smacking the body of a Casio keyboard. On 1/19/21 5:23 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > I like this common aspect of technology. Not that it ought to be obvious like an iPhone (supposedly) but that it is just an artifact of nature and so preconceived intent is arbitrary. It does whatever it does and if you trust a claim, you don’t really know it, you just believe. Novelty arises from misuse. -- ↙↙↙ uǝlƃ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/
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Yes, my response was messy and pre-coffee. Allow me to try again.
Smacking an acoustic guitar is something like smacking an electric guitar, and neither is like smacking a keytar. The *novelty arising from misuse* is maybe the surprise that the keytar *smacks* so horribly or that the other two artifacts *smack* so well. Still, what do I want from a phone or alarm clock? In the latter case, I am happy to have reinvented it for myself. I cannot stand obnoxious buzzing, it takes very little to wake me, and often there isn't anything that requires me to be up. It took a little doing, but now a low decibel white noise generator turns on for me at the time I wish to be awake. For a while, I considered rigging a servomotor to my curtains and simply letting in light[||]. However, the subtle hum of the motor itself would be enough for me to stir, especially if I know that I need to be awake for something. Sometimes, when I think about the analogies made to the econosphere or the biosphere, I am concerned that the pressures evoked by the analogy are far too severe, and I am left imagining influences that strongly determine the phase. As Brian Arthur points out, analog clocks move clockwise and are usually modulo 12 or the occasional 24. This appears to be a stable fact of our world, and I wish to point out that it is expensively so. In cases where there isn't the entirety of the markets to reinforce a particular design, or need to gain access to specialized resources, we ought to see quite a bit more variation in design and possibly other *intuitive* designs. Sometimes I waffle on how I feel about the qwerty keyboard. Sometimes, I hate that it slows me down and forces me to siphon off some small amount of mental resource to the interface. Other times, like with my mouse, I am annoyed that the convenience promotes certain bad skimming habits when I read. I guess in the end, the diversity of technology is good in that it helps me to discover myself, to know better the various modes of engagement that I can enjoy, and to understand what these modes have to offer. It may be a moot point with respect to phones as there may not be much more to want from an interface, the principle components may all be discovered. I suspect this is the case for the bicycle, and now we simply refine. I am not so certain that this is the case for computers and in particular screens. While I personally am skeptical of technologies like neural-link, I do hope for a future where we reimagine computer-human interfaces and where I don't need to simultaneously stare into a strobe light while attempting to concentrate. [||] Gee, I feel like I sound like Nadine Hurley going on about her silent drape runners :) -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ |
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Circuit bending is so wonderful! A well-placed diode in my *big muff* pedal
has turned it into some other monster altogether. Phosphenes, I didn't know the name for that phenomenon! I did some recent audio rendering of DNA, and as a couple of people have pointed out it isn't yet listenable enough to be called music. Still, the software is general enough that one can pass it any DNA one chooses. https://soundcloud.com/jeejaws-for-jawaas/pandemic-peptide-symphony-in-a-maj -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ |
What's missing in the audialization of serialized data like DNA is some sort of state space reconstruction ... kindasorta like protein [un]folding. What I'd *love* to see is a piece-wise serial unwinding into, say, PureData components that can be taken apart in chunks and reassembled at will. So, rather than serializing a whole genome, we could play God and genetically engineer a new tune. What might it sound like when a ribosome constructs spike proteins from the vaccines? Or when an immune cell grabs it?
Visual/spatial thinkers get a big (false) kick out of cartoon visualizations of such things. We sequential thinkers are left to wallow in our imaginations. On 1/20/21 8:13 AM, jon zingale wrote: > Circuit bending is so wonderful! A well-placed diode in my *big muff* pedal > has turned it into some other monster altogether. Phosphenes, I didn't know > the name for that phenomenon! I did some recent audio rendering of DNA, and > as a couple of people have pointed out it isn't yet listenable enough to be > called music. Still, the software is general enough that one can pass it any > DNA one chooses. > > https://soundcloud.com/jeejaws-for-jawaas/pandemic-peptide-symphony-in-a-maj -- ↙↙↙ uǝlƃ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/
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"What might it sound like when a ribosome constructs spike proteins from the
vaccines? Or when an immune cell grabs it?" Oh, that would be the dream! -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ |
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Jon -
I really like your phrase "... closer to the heart of what it means to be a musical instrument". My friend/colleague Panaiotis (in ABQ) plays hard in that domain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcnAqUfKsms&feature=youtu.be Here is quite a range of interesting entries into a competition he was in: https://guthman.gatech.edu/gallery I helped Panaiotis develop some of the early prototypes of this system and more to the point, apply his concepts/techniques to the "musification" of data. Our most successful project was the Immersive Network Intrusion Detection system circa 2003. Panaiotis has shifted his focus to a commercial app and a collection of STEAM projects: https://www.bandojo.us/ - Steve On 1/20/21 7:37 AM, jon zingale wrote: > Perhaps. Though I do find it sad that synthesizer design (for instance) so > quickly converged onto piano-like interfaces and the occasional switch pad. > For a moment there in the 70s and 80s, thanks to explorative minds of people > like the writers of ElectroNotes, there was the possibility of something > more and not simply by novelty. I would often enjoy flipping through the > journal and reading about reeded interfaces with nonlinear regimes and ideas > that seemed to get closer to the heart of what it means to be an instrument. > Wrestling and smacking the body of an acoustic instrument is nothing like > wrestling and smacking the body of a Casio keyboard. > > > > -- > Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ |
Rad. Thanks for all of this. I noticed Bradford Reed's Pencilina at the GA Tech link! I shared a bill with him at a concert club in Cleveland circa 2000 when he with his Pencilina was the rhythm section for King Missile. Shortly after, the violin player for my group made a very strange music video of Reed's piece "The Whimsical Prowler". The video is pretty gruesome otherwise I might include the link here. The finalist instrument "Landscape" also seems pretty cool.
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That same violin player invented his own instrument called *The Horrible
Snoddlewinsch*
. After sawing in half an oil drum, he welded the front of a bathtub to it
and some miscellaneous rebar. He then stretched strings over it and applied
a kickdrum pedal. He traveled all over the place with it in a van, playing
it on street corners throughout the US.
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