Quite a positive review by Alison Gopnik. Here's a lot of it. She starts out by explaining why the moon looks so much larger when it’s at the horizon than when it’s overhead, at the zenith.
Neat! I had never heard this.
-- Russ
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Odd quote, especially with the beginning part. The moon illusion is the
oldest known illusion, and it is very cool. The effect was documented in
ancient Greece, and they knew it was an illusion. The easiest way to
demonstrate the illusory nature is to look at the moon, hold you hand out at
arms length and cover the moon with your finger nail (whichever covers it
best); then, when the moon is in a different part of the sky and looks a
different size, hold out your hand and you will find that the same nail covers
it just as well. Thus you can tell that the moon is producing the same optic
image, and with a few deductive step you can conclude that the moon is the same
size. -- All that aside, there is NOT a consensus as to the cause of the moon
illusion. The effect that Gopnik refers to is at best a partial explanation, as
scores of studies have shown it is insufficient to explain the full
effect.
Where Gopnik (or, I guess, Humphrey) goes from there is equally odd. How, for example, do you know that I like being "present" more than "not present"? If we take that claim literally, I have never been "not present" in order to compare and contrast. If we take that claim metaphorically, then many people spend a lot of time, and very large sums of money, in an effort be "not present," suggesting it is a desirable state, at least for some. Eric P.S. Thanks everyone for all the blog advice! On Fri, May 20, 2011 09:11 PM, Russ Abbott <[hidden email]> wrote: Eric Charles Professional Student and Assistant Professor of Psychology Penn State University Altoona, PA 16601 ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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I think Gopnik picks out the wrong points.
I doubt that all of us like ‘being present'. All of us certainly like to get a good meal or mate. We are designed to like supper and pairing times. But what if you can not get the meal or mate you desire? It does not feel good to be alive in general, it only feels good if you meet the objectives of your genes, if you reach your goals, if you win a game, if you find the mate or meal you are looking for, or if you discover something new. The interesting point is if it is possible to explain our conscious experience in objective scientific terms at all. I think the "magic of experience" is not irreducible. Subjective experience is reducible to good and bad feelings (i.e. meals and mates), to pleasure and pain, to former impressions and experiences, see http://bit.ly/dv9ssf How exactly is an interesting question. The magic aspect is especially interesting, for example the magic of self-awareness, but even this aspect can be understood: see http://bit.ly/lOIFQN Hermann Hesse said the magic lies in the beginning, in the complex, if we experience something for the first time, or (in William James' words) if everything appears to be a big "blooming, buzzing confusion". Magic arises from uncertainty and lack of knowledge. -J. ----- Original Message ----- From: Russ Abbott To: FRIAM Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 3:11 AM Subject: [FRIAM] Review of Nicholas Humphrey's new book on consciousness Quite a positive review by Alison Gopnik. [..] ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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