Let the gun-control vs information-wants-to-be-free wars begin!
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Let the gun-control vs information-wants-to-be-free wars begin!
 
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Did I just mention that we live in strange (e.g. interesting in the
Confucian sense) times?
the-worlds-first-3d-printed-gunSomeone in the comments of SlashDot suggested that we might end up outlawing 3D printers and someone else suggested outlawing the teaching of geometry... but we all know from the rash of "script kiddies" that you don't need to understand the tools you are wielding to be effective en-masse! And re the Glock .STL... whatever happened to old fashioned "soap carving" and "boot black" ? - Steve ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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And for the retro-Steampunk crowd:
http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3dsmax-pepperbox-gun/409866 Did I just mention that we live in strange (e.g. interesting in the Confucian sense) times? ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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Hmmm I suppose this is a bit of a tricky question,
it is illegal to distribute material on how to make an explosive: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/842 (section P.2 at the end) On the other hand, it is legal for people to distribute information and blueprints on how to make a gun in a machine shop. My guess is a CAD file falls under "instructions on how to make a gun" and will likely be protected. I could see future legislation forbidding the distribution of CAD files on how to make a illegal parts (silencers, automatic conversion, large round clips etc) if a terrorist ever uses a CAD gun. **************************** Greg Sonnenfeld “Two h's walk into a bar. The first one says, "What is this? Some kind of physics joke?” On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Steve Smith <[hidden email]> wrote: > Did I just mention that we live in strange (e.g. interesting in the > Confucian sense) times? > > the-worlds-first-3d-printed-gun > > cant be long before you can DL a Glock .STL file .... oh wait! what's this ? > > Someone in the comments of SlashDot suggested that we might end up outlawing > 3D printers and someone else suggested outlawing the teaching of geometry... > but we all know from the rash of "script kiddies" that you don't need to > understand the tools you are wielding to be effective en-masse! > > And re the Glock .STL... whatever happened to old fashioned "soap carving" > and "boot black" ? > > - Steve > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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In the processing industry it's important to protect property and
personnel from fire (and possible explosions). So safety experts
drill staff in the basic concept of what it takes to make a fire:
Oxygen could be endogenous or otherwise. As an engineer we always assumed that a Spark of Ignition would be present (sooner or later) so the engineering task is to prevent the fuel mixing with the oxygen. Sometimes this is tricky with endogenous oxygen which is why explosive factories are so dangerous. I mention this because I see an analogy with gun control. To have a shooting massacre one needs:
and we should assume that a Nutter like a Spark of Ignition will be present (sooner or later). So we have to prevent Weapons mixing with potential Victims. The airline industry works hard to do this, perhaps we should think of other precautions. Just a thought. Thanks Robert C On 7/26/12 1:41 PM, Steve Smith wrote:
Did I just mention that we live in strange (e.g. interesting in the Confucian sense) times? ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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http://www.ted.com/talks/marc_goodman_a_vision_of_crimes_in_the_future.html
The problem is - he is a cop, and sees life thru the lenses of a cop. and cops want control. Of course, one example he gives is the drug war - but does not examine root cause. ... bandit > Hmmm I suppose this is a bit of a tricky question, > > it is illegal to distribute material on how to make an explosive: > http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/842 (section P.2 at the end) > > On the other hand, it is legal for people to distribute information > and blueprints on how to make a gun in a machine shop. My guess is a > CAD file falls under "instructions on how to make a gun" and will > likely be protected. I could see future legislation forbidding the > distribution of CAD files on how to make a illegal parts (silencers, > automatic conversion, large round clips etc) if a terrorist ever uses > a CAD gun. > > > > **************************** > Greg Sonnenfeld > > Two h's walk into a bar. The first one says, "What is this? Some kind > of physics joke? > > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Steve Smith <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Did I just mention that we live in strange (e.g. interesting in the >> Confucian sense) times? >> >> the-worlds-first-3d-printed-gun >> >> cant be long before you can DL a Glock .STL file .... oh wait! what's >> this ? >> >> Someone in the comments of SlashDot suggested that we might end up >> outlawing >> 3D printers and someone else suggested outlawing the teaching of >> geometry... >> but we all know from the rash of "script kiddies" that you don't need to >> understand the tools you are wielding to be effective en-masse! >> >> And re the Glock .STL... whatever happened to old fashioned "soap >> carving" >> and "boot black" ? >> >> - Steve >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > -- [hidden email] 505-228-8197 bandit.name I am a systems engineer, specializing in: - Mission-Critical embedded systems - device drivers - control and data acquisition systems My stuff *works* - *all the time*. Member: INCOSE.org, PACA.org, IEEE.org, CaliforniaConsultants.org, quelab.net And to support my son: Proud members of the New Mexico .NET User Group. Please go to the community website at www.nmug.net. ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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