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will ever see a fraction of this in our home? http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3689881.ece?print=yes&randnum=1207538948023--- -- tj ========================================== J. T. Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA www.analyticjournalism.com 505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h) http://www.jtjohnson.com tom at jtjohnson.com "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." -- Buckminster Fuller ========================================== -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/attachments/20080406/262779ad/attachment.html |
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Finally! This is a good intro to what Don and I have been working on
the last couple of weeks. The network is the computer .. wait .. Sun? Here's step one, the cloud: http://www.joyent.com/accelerator Basically we're tracing the newest "hosting" technologies, and believe me, they are changing at light speed. Cloud computing is a brilliant combination of hardware/server advancement .. where small fractions of a "blade" can have its own IP address, to software that "virtualizes" these fractions into dozens of "sites". And when I say "virtualize", I DEFINITELY do NOT mean VMWare or Parallels. I mean a fascinating combination of DNS stunts with name-based sub-servers on every "site". And yes, these services offer clustered systems so you can go from a fraction of a server to multiple servers. Basically Torrents are going to replace streams, and Virtual Servers are going to replace hosting services as we once knew them. Currently the torrent part is weakest, but we believe we'll see "torrent url's" soon .. stunts where the torrent technology will not be limited to file sharing, but will be a "transport" for any layer in the Internet. To be specific, Don and I have an architecture for hosting that includes two "computers" .. one the typical shared hosting service .. but with GREAT programmer oriented services, an the other a dedicated fraction of a "blade" (with root access).. which bursts up to the full blade, or can advance to clustered. Managing this is a "DNS Management Service" .. yet another web hosting service that lets some of the requests for our domain go to the shared system, and others to the shared .. i.e. a form of load balancing. And for storage, the service has a Network Storage System (Joyent Bingo Disks) that is completely scalable, and on a 100Mb pipe. All facilities interoperable. Managing all this is a fantastic web based administration package called Virtualmin .. virtual computing administration. And we can move our Virtualmin system from Joyent to Amazon (S3/EC2) in a day, with Virtualmin's migration facilities. Its not your father's internet any more! See these: http://www.joyent.com/ http://www.virtualmin.com/ https://www.dnsmadeeasy.com/ So Tom, the answer to: > Let's see now: what are the odds we in New Mexico -- hell, in the > U.S. -- > will ever see a fraction of this in our home? .. is very high if we in The Complex decide to work on this. The pieces are in place. -- Owen On Apr 6, 2008, at 8:33 PM, Tom Johnson wrote: > Let's see now: what are the odds we in New Mexico -- hell, in the > U.S. -- > will ever see a fraction of this in our home? > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3689881.ece?print=yes&randnum=1207538948023--- > > -- tj > > ========================================== > J. T. Johnson > Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA > www.analyticjournalism.com > 505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h) > http://www.jtjohnson.com tom at jtjohnson.com > > "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. > To change something, build a new model that makes the > existing model obsolete." > -- Buckminster Fuller > ========================================== > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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On Apr 6, 2008, at 9:16 PM, Bob Knight wrote:
> Am I missing something or does this dovetail nicely with something > like LTSP or Sun Rays? Bingo, right on! Both are *extreme* thin clients with nothing on the "desktop" other than a keyboard, mouse, display, and server-connection. The Sun Ray goes to the extreme of actually having the frame buffer on the server, and the "server-connection" literally streaming the video between the thin-client and the server. I used one of these for 4 years at Sun. At first folks were concerned -- where's my *data*. Well, they then realized it was where it always was .. backed up on the network. It has a great other facility. It was "logged into" via a credit-card sorta thing .. a Java Card. I could pop mine out, run down the hall, pop it into a friends system, and we'd be looking at my system! Talk about virtual desktops! > For various reasons, I am very enamored of thin clients: if you have > access to bandwidth via 3g, wireless or wire, they give you the > ability to move your workspace with you without carrying your actual > bits. > > Why is this good? What happens if your laptop or computers at home > get ripped off? Massive ID theft? Perhaps not, if you're fastidious > about using things like encryption. If you're not doing heavy gaming > or graphics, they are lightweight enough bandwidth-wise so that > things are not too annoying. > > Couple them with what Owen's talking about and ... you don't have to > have a roomful of confusers at home, you have great bandwidth to > your computing and someone else is worrying about security and HVAC. > > Or is this completely tangential? No, its absolutely spot on. > FWIW. > > Bob -- Owen > Owen Densmore wrote: >> Finally! This is a good intro to what Don and I have been working >> on the last couple of weeks. The network is the computer .. >> wait .. Sun? >> >> Here's step one, the cloud: >> http://www.joyent.com/accelerator >> Basically we're tracing the newest "hosting" technologies, and >> believe me, they are changing at light speed. >> >> Cloud computing is a brilliant combination of hardware/server >> advancement .. where small fractions of a "blade" can have its own >> IP address, to software that "virtualizes" these fractions into >> dozens of "sites". And when I say "virtualize", I DEFINITELY do >> NOT mean VMWare or Parallels. I mean a fascinating combination of >> DNS stunts with name-based sub-servers on every "site". And yes, >> these services offer clustered systems so you can go from a >> fraction of a server to multiple servers. >> >> Basically Torrents are going to replace streams, and Virtual >> Servers are going to replace hosting services as we once knew >> them. Currently the torrent part is weakest, but we believe we'll >> see "torrent url's" soon .. stunts where the torrent technology >> will not be limited to file sharing, but will be a "transport" for >> any layer in the Internet. >> >> To be specific, Don and I have an architecture for hosting that >> includes two "computers" .. one the typical shared hosting >> service .. but with GREAT programmer oriented services, an the >> other a dedicated fraction of a "blade" (with root access).. which >> bursts up to the full blade, or can advance to clustered. >> >> Managing this is a "DNS Management Service" .. yet another web >> hosting service that lets some of the requests for our domain go >> to the shared system, and others to the shared .. i.e. a form of >> load balancing. And for storage, the service has a Network >> Storage System (Joyent Bingo Disks) that is completely scalable, >> and on a 100Mb pipe. All facilities interoperable. >> >> Managing all this is a fantastic web based administration package >> called Virtualmin .. virtual computing administration. And we can >> move our Virtualmin system from Joyent to Amazon (S3/EC2) in a >> day, with Virtualmin's migration facilities. >> >> Its not your father's internet any more! >> >> See these: >> http://www.joyent.com/ >> http://www.virtualmin.com/ >> https://www.dnsmadeeasy.com/ >> >> So Tom, the answer to: >> >>> Let's see now: what are the odds we in New Mexico -- hell, in the >>> U.S. -- >>> will ever see a fraction of this in our home? >>> >> .. is very high if we in The Complex decide to work on this. The >> pieces are in place. >> >> -- Owen >> >> >> On Apr 6, 2008, at 8:33 PM, Tom Johnson wrote: >> >> >>> Let's see now: what are the odds we in New Mexico -- hell, in the >>> U.S. -- >>> will ever see a fraction of this in our home? >>> >>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3689881.ece?print=yes&randnum=1207538948023--- >>> >>> -- tj >>> >>> ========================================== >>> J. T. Johnson >>> Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA >>> www.analyticjournalism.com >>> 505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h) >>> http://www.jtjohnson.com tom at jtjohnson.com >>> >>> "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. >>> To change something, build a new model that makes the >>> existing model obsolete." >>> -- Buckminster Fuller >>> ========================================== >>> ============================================================ >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >>> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 1st-mile-nm mailing list >> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org >> http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm >> |
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See: http://www.internet2.edu. This initiative was started in the late 90's as a high bandwidth, subscription based research and education delivery system. We are reaping some of the small, commercial benefits now - from contributions from Cisco's high speed hardware, and security from the work of Cerias at Purdue. Universities were looking to the future at different business models in case the college campus became impractical or obsolete as an educational delivery system. This was a jump on plan 'B'. At the same time, POI (plain old Internet) has been gaining ground in the research area. Although individual research is extremely expensive (even though much of it is free), the research libraries at universities have the power of size and $ in negotiation with technical and scientific publishing houses. This helps keep universities viable, and the publishing enterprises profitable - a win-win for these stakeholders. The underlying business model of research, education and knowledge is alive and adapting to the competition posed from POI commons. From the perspective of traditional education, it is kind of like learning to live with diabetes - if you don't manage it, it can kill you - meaning you can't take it for "granted". The dynamics and complexities of the flow of education and knowledge in a global economy is at the heart of many of the US's problems. Specifically, knowledge has gone from being a scarce resource to becoming a global commodity. The value of purveying knowledge must be balanced with the value to society from consuming (applying) knowledge. Tattered, cardboard sign from the near future: "PhD. Will teach physics for food." ============================= Kenneth A. Lloyd CEO and Director of Systems Science Watt Systems Technologies Inc. Albuquerque, NM USA kalloyd at wattsys.com kenneth.lloyd at incose.org - MBSE Complex, Adaptive & Stochastic Systems kenneth.lloyd at nmug.net - Director of Education www.wattsys.com <http://www.wattsys.com/> <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/7/9a/824> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/7/9a/824 This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. It may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the addressee you must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it. If you have received it in error please delete it and immediately notify the sender. _____ From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Tom Johnson Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 8:34 PM To: 1st-Mile-NM; Friam at redfish. com Subject: [FRIAM] Kicking the Internet up a notch Let's see now: what are the odds we in New Mexico -- hell, in the U.S. -- will ever see a fraction of this in our home? http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3689881.ece?print=ye s <http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3689881.ece?print=y es&randnum=1207538948023> &randnum=1207538948023 --- -- tj ========================================== J. T. Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA www.analyticjournalism.com 505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h) http://www.jtjohnson.com tom at jtjohnson.com "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." -- Buckminster Fuller ========================================== -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/attachments/20080407/04253cbd/attachment.html |
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Back to Tom's original question: I'd like to propose that National
Lambda Rail, NM Lambda Rail, the NMCAC, the 1st Mile Institute, and the Governor's Science and Technology Advisor would be an appropriate ad hoc task force to see if and how The Grid could reach us here. If that makes sense, I'll volunteer for service. Thoughts? db dba | David Breecker Associates, Inc. Santa Fe: 505-690-2335 Abiquiu: 505-685-4891 www.BreeckerAssociates.com On Apr 6, 2008, at 8:56 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: > Finally! This is a good intro to what Don and I have been working on > the last couple of weeks. The network is the computer .. wait .. Sun? > > Here's step one, the cloud: > http://www.joyent.com/accelerator > Basically we're tracing the newest "hosting" technologies, and believe > me, they are changing at light speed. > > Cloud computing is a brilliant combination of hardware/server > advancement .. where small fractions of a "blade" can have its own IP > address, to software that "virtualizes" these fractions into dozens of > "sites". And when I say "virtualize", I DEFINITELY do NOT mean VMWare > or Parallels. I mean a fascinating combination of DNS stunts with > name-based sub-servers on every "site". And yes, these services offer > clustered systems so you can go from a fraction of a server to > multiple servers. > > Basically Torrents are going to replace streams, and Virtual Servers > are going to replace hosting services as we once knew them. Currently > the torrent part is weakest, but we believe we'll see "torrent url's" > soon .. stunts where the torrent technology will not be limited to > file sharing, but will be a "transport" for any layer in the Internet. > > To be specific, Don and I have an architecture for hosting that > includes two "computers" .. one the typical shared hosting service .. > but with GREAT programmer oriented services, an the other a dedicated > fraction of a "blade" (with root access).. which bursts up to the full > blade, or can advance to clustered. > > Managing this is a "DNS Management Service" .. yet another web hosting > service that lets some of the requests for our domain go to the shared > system, and others to the shared .. i.e. a form of load balancing. > And for storage, the service has a Network Storage System (Joyent > Bingo Disks) that is completely scalable, and on a 100Mb pipe. All > facilities interoperable. > > Managing all this is a fantastic web based administration package > called Virtualmin .. virtual computing administration. And we can > move our Virtualmin system from Joyent to Amazon (S3/EC2) in a day, > with Virtualmin's migration facilities. > > Its not your father's internet any more! > > See these: > http://www.joyent.com/ > http://www.virtualmin.com/ > https://www.dnsmadeeasy.com/ > > So Tom, the answer to: >> Let's see now: what are the odds we in New Mexico -- hell, in the >> U.S. -- >> will ever see a fraction of this in our home? > .. is very high if we in The Complex decide to work on this. The > pieces are in place. > > -- Owen > > > On Apr 6, 2008, at 8:33 PM, Tom Johnson wrote: > >> Let's see now: what are the odds we in New Mexico -- hell, in the >> U.S. -- >> will ever see a fraction of this in our home? >> >> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3689881.ece?print=yes&randnum=1207538948023--- >> >> -- tj >> >> ========================================== >> J. T. Johnson >> Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA >> www.analyticjournalism.com >> 505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h) >> http://www.jtjohnson.com tom at jtjohnson.com >> >> "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. >> To change something, build a new model that makes the >> existing model obsolete." >> -- Buckminster Fuller >> ========================================== >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > _______________________________________________ > 1st-mile-nm mailing list > 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org > http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/attachments/20080407/0ce6e164/attachment.html |
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