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Tom Johnson

Re: Interdisciplinary work

Can't it be both "trans" and "inter"?

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On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 2:18 PM Merle Lefkoff <[hidden email]> wrote:

By the way, Jon, when I talk about complex systems science, I refer to it as "transdisciplinary", as opposed to "interdisciplinary".

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Merle Lefkoff-2

Re: Interdisciplinary work

Of course Tom. We need both. But they are not the same and require different problem-solving processes.

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 5:42 PM Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Can't it be both "trans" and "inter"?

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On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 2:18 PM Merle Lefkoff <[hidden email]> wrote:
By the way, Jon, when I talk about complex systems science, I refer to it as "transdisciplinary", as opposed to "interdisciplinary".

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Thank you, Merle.
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Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D.
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Marcus G. Daniels

Re: Interdisciplinary work

Head for the bottom right of this plot to avoid being replaced by automation.

From: Friam <[hidden email]> on behalf of Merle Lefkoff <[hidden email]>
Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 5:16 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Interdisciplinary work

Of course Tom. We need both. But they are not the same and require different problem-solving processes.

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 5:42 PM Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Can't it be both "trans" and "inter"?

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On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 2:18 PM Merle Lefkoff <[hidden email]> wrote:

By the way, Jon, when I talk about complex systems science, I refer to it as "transdisciplinary", as opposed to "interdisciplinary".

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 2:14 PM Jon Zingale <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thank you, Merle.

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David Eric Smith

Re: Interdisciplinary work

In reply to this post by Merle Lefkoff-2

Thank you for this, Merle,

I always tried to make that the term of use, and mostly failed.

Transdicsciplinary is a person with a foot in each of two boats. Not the most comfortable place to stand, but different.

Interdisciplinary is the person standing between the two boats without a foot in either.

Eric

On May 28, 2020, at 5:18 AM, Merle Lefkoff <[hidden email]> wrote:

By the way, Jon, when I talk about complex systems science, I refer to it as "transdisciplinary", as opposed to "interdisciplinary".

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Tom Johnson

Re: Interdisciplinary work

In reply to this post by Merle Lefkoff-2

Different problem-solving processes. Ummmmm. Depends on your perspective and definition, I suppose. I usually start with a General Systems Theory perspective. With that, "Inter" and "Intra" are scalable versions of similar models, which could use similar problem-solving processes.

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On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 6:16 PM Merle Lefkoff <[hidden email]> wrote:

Of course Tom. We need both. But they are not the same and require different problem-solving processes.

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 5:42 PM Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Can't it be both "trans" and "inter"?

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On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 2:18 PM Merle Lefkoff <[hidden email]> wrote:
By the way, Jon, when I talk about complex systems science, I refer to it as "transdisciplinary", as opposed to "interdisciplinary".

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 2:14 PM Jon Zingale <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thank you, Merle.
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Merle Lefkoff-2

Re: Interdisciplinary work

In reply to this post by Marcus G. Daniels

Thank you for the simple but wonderful graphic, Marcus. And where are you?

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 6:18 PM Marcus Daniels <[hidden email]> wrote:

Head for the bottom right of this plot to avoid being replaced by automation.

From: Friam <[hidden email]> on behalf of Merle Lefkoff <[hidden email]>
Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 5:16 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Interdisciplinary work

Of course Tom. We need both. But they are not the same and require different problem-solving processes.

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 5:42 PM Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Can't it be both "trans" and "inter"?

============================================
Tom Johnson - [hidden email]
Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA
505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h)
NM Foundation for Open Government
Check out It's The People's Data

============================================

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 2:18 PM Merle Lefkoff <[hidden email]> wrote:

By the way, Jon, when I talk about complex systems science, I refer to it as "transdisciplinary", as opposed to "interdisciplinary".

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 2:14 PM Jon Zingale <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thank you, Merle.

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Marcus G. Daniels

Re: Interdisciplinary work

Say, around Madagascar. Looking for a ship to head toward Australia, but it sure looks like a lot of water.

From: Friam <[hidden email]> on behalf of Merle Lefkoff <[hidden email]>
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Interdisciplinary work

Thank you for the simple but wonderful graphic, Marcus. And where are you?

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 6:18 PM Marcus Daniels <[hidden email]> wrote:

Head for the bottom right of this plot to avoid being replaced by automation.

From: Friam <[hidden email]> on behalf of Merle Lefkoff <[hidden email]>
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Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 5:16 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Interdisciplinary work

Of course Tom. We need both. But they are not the same and require different problem-solving processes.

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 5:42 PM Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Can't it be both "trans" and "inter"?

============================================
Tom Johnson - [hidden email]
Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA
505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h)
NM Foundation for Open Government
Check out It's The People's Data

============================================

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 2:18 PM Merle Lefkoff <[hidden email]> wrote:

By the way, Jon, when I talk about complex systems science, I refer to it as "transdisciplinary", as opposed to "interdisciplinary".

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 2:14 PM Jon Zingale <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thank you, Merle.

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Prof David West

Re: Interdisciplinary work

In reply to this post by Merle Lefkoff-2

How to trans/inter relate to the concept of "modern polymath" that is used in business and design literature. An extension of the "T-shaped individual" ==> "pi shaped individual" ==> "broken comb individual." The idea is to combine breadth of knowledge with depth in one discipline. T=one area of depth; pi=two, broken comb= integrated and deep breadth with multiple depths to varying degrees. Modern polymath=integrated web of knowledge.

I have telling software developers for 20 years or so that they must become modern polymaths.

davew

On Wed, May 27, 2020, at 11:10 PM, Merle Lefkoff wrote:

Thank you for the simple but wonderful graphic, Marcus. And where are you?

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 6:18 PM Marcus Daniels <[hidden email]> wrote:
Head for the bottom right of this plot to avoid being replaced by automation.

From: Friam <[hidden email]> on behalf of Merle Lefkoff <[hidden email]>
Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 5:16 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Interdisciplinary work

Of course Tom. We need both. But they are not the same and require different problem-solving processes.

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 5:42 PM Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Can't it be both "trans" and "inter"?

============================================
Tom Johnson - [hidden email]
Institute for Analytic Journalism   --     Santa Fe, NM USA
505.577.6482(c)               505.473.9646(h)
NM Foundation for Open Government
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============================================

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 2:18 PM Merle Lefkoff <[hidden email]> wrote:
By the way, Jon, when I talk about complex systems science, I refer to it as "transdisciplinary", as opposed to "interdisciplinary".

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 2:14 PM Jon Zingale <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thank you, Merle.
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Steve Smith

Re: Interdisciplinary work

In reply to this post by Marcus G. Daniels

On 5/27/20 11:27 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:

Say, around Madagascar. Looking for a ship to head toward Australia, but it sure looks like a lot of water.

sounds ... appropriately...

... uncomfortable?

From: Friam [hidden email] on behalf of Merle Lefkoff [hidden email]
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Interdisciplinary work

Thank you for the simple but wonderful graphic, Marcus. And where are you?

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 6:18 PM Marcus Daniels <[hidden email]> wrote:

Head for the bottom right of this plot to avoid being replaced by automation.

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To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Interdisciplinary work

Of course Tom. We need both. But they are not the same and require different problem-solving processes.

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 5:42 PM Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Can't it be both "trans" and "inter"?

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On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 2:18 PM Merle Lefkoff <[hidden email]> wrote:

By the way, Jon, when I talk about complex systems science, I refer to it as "transdisciplinary", as opposed to "interdisciplinary".

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 2:14 PM Jon Zingale <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thank you, Merle.

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