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Tom Johnson

How to Repurpose Your Old Gadgets Step away from the trash bin!

There are plenty of ways to give old phones, laptops, and cameras a new life.
https://www.wired.com/story/what-to-do-with-old-gadgets/

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Angel Edward

Re: How to Repurpose Your Old Gadgets Step away from the trash bin!

Two other options:

1. Computer Charities in Santa Fe

2. Phones to women’s shelters. 911 works on the old phone even when you stop service to it.

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Ed Angel

Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

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On Oct 20, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

There are plenty of ways to give old phones, laptops, and cameras a new life.
https://www.wired.com/story/what-to-do-with-old-gadgets/

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Tom Johnson

Re: How to Repurpose Your Old Gadgets Step away from the trash bin!

Good suggestions.

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On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 12:45 PM Angel Edward <[hidden email]> wrote:

Two other options:

1. Computer Charities in Santa Fe
2. Phones to women’s shelters. 911 works on the old phone even when you stop service to it.

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Ed Angel

Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

1017 Sierra Pinon
Santa Fe, NM 87501
505-984-0136 (home) [hidden email]
505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel

On Oct 20, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

There are plenty of ways to give old phones, laptops, and cameras a new life.
https://www.wired.com/story/what-to-do-with-old-gadgets/

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Tom Johnson - [hidden email]
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NM Foundation for Open Government
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Russ Abbott

Re: How to Repurpose Your Old Gadgets Step away from the trash bin!

In reply to this post by Tom Johnson

Does anyone think there is anything to this?

Electromagnetic energy in the brain enables brain matter to create our consciousness and our ability to be aware and think, according to a new theory developed by Professor Johnjoe McFadden from the University of Surrey.

When neurons in the brain and nervous system fire, they not only send the familiar electrical signal down the wire-like nerve fibres, but they also send a pulse of electromagnetic energy into the surrounding tissue. Such energy is usually disregarded, yet it carries the same information as nerve firings, but as an immaterial wave of energy, rather than a flow of atoms in and out of the nerves.

This electromagnetic field is well-known and is routinely detected by brain-scanning techniques such as electroencephalogram (EEG) and magnetoencephalography (MEG) but has previously been dismissed as irrelevant to brain function. Instead, McFadden proposes that the brain’s information-rich electromagnetic field is in fact itself the seat of consciousness, driving ‘free will’ and voluntary actions.

This new theory also accounts for why, despite their immense complexity and ultra-fast operation, today’s computers have not exhibited the slightest spark of consciousness; however, with the right technical development, robots that are aware and can think for themselves could become a reality.

Johnjoe McFadden, Professor of Molecular Genetics and Director of the Quantum Biology Doctoral Training Centre at the University of Surrey, said: “How brain matter becomes aware and manages to think is a mystery that has been pondered by philosophers, theologians, mystics and ordinary people for millennia. I believe this mystery has now been solved, and that consciousness is the experience of nerves plugging into the brain’s self-generated electromagnetic field to drive what we call ‘free will’ and our voluntary actions.”

I'm especially concerned about the final sentence that claims that consciousness is the experience of nerves plugging into the brain's electromagnetic field.

That seems to assume what it's trying to explain. Even if all the rest of it makes sense (and I'm not in a position to judge), what does it mean for nerves to "experience" anything? Isn't that the issue to be explained?

-- Russ Abbott
Professor, Computer Science
California State University, Los Angeles

Russ Abbott

Re: How to Repurpose Your Old Gadgets Step away from the trash bin!

Sorry, this should have been a new topic.

-- Russ Abbott
Professor, Computer Science
California State University, Los Angeles

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 1:27 PM Russ Abbott <[hidden email]> wrote:

Does anyone think there is anything to this?

Electromagnetic energy in the brain enables brain matter to create our consciousness and our ability to be aware and think, according to a new theory developed by Professor Johnjoe McFadden from the University of Surrey.

When neurons in the brain and nervous system fire, they not only send the familiar electrical signal down the wire-like nerve fibres, but they also send a pulse of electromagnetic energy into the surrounding tissue. Such energy is usually disregarded, yet it carries the same information as nerve firings, but as an immaterial wave of energy, rather than a flow of atoms in and out of the nerves.
This electromagnetic field is well-known and is routinely detected by brain-scanning techniques such as electroencephalogram (EEG) and magnetoencephalography (MEG) but has previously been dismissed as irrelevant to brain function. Instead, McFadden proposes that the brain’s information-rich electromagnetic field is in fact itself the seat of consciousness, driving ‘free will’ and voluntary actions.
This new theory also accounts for why, despite their immense complexity and ultra-fast operation, today’s computers have not exhibited the slightest spark of consciousness; however, with the right technical development, robots that are aware and can think for themselves could become a reality.
Johnjoe McFadden, Professor of Molecular Genetics and Director of the Quantum Biology Doctoral Training Centre at the University of Surrey, said: “How brain matter becomes aware and manages to think is a mystery that has been pondered by philosophers, theologians, mystics and ordinary people for millennia. I believe this mystery has now been solved, and that consciousness is the experience of nerves plugging into the brain’s self-generated electromagnetic field to drive what we call ‘free will’ and our voluntary actions.”

I'm especially concerned about the final sentence that claims that consciousness is the experience of nerves plugging into the brain's electromagnetic field.

That seems to assume what it's trying to explain. Even if all the rest of it makes sense (and I'm not in a position to judge), what does it mean for nerves to "experience" anything? Isn't that the issue to be explained?

-- Russ Abbott
Professor, Computer Science
California State University, Los Angeles

thompnickson2

Re: How to Repurpose Your Old Gadgets Step away from the trash bin!

Don’t worry about it.

Thread hygiene has never been one of FRIAM’s strong suits.

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

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https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Russ Abbott
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:28 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] How to Repurpose Your Old Gadgets Step away from the trash bin!

Sorry, this should have been a new topic.

-- Russ Abbott
Professor, Computer Science
California State University, Los Angeles

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 1:27 PM Russ Abbott <[hidden email]> wrote:

Does anyone think there is anything to this?

Electromagnetic energy in the brain enables brain matter to create our consciousness and our ability to be aware and think, according to a new theory developed by Professor Johnjoe McFadden from the University of Surrey.

When neurons in the brain and nervous system fire, they not only send the familiar electrical signal down the wire-like nerve fibres, but they also send a pulse of electromagnetic energy into the surrounding tissue. Such energy is usually disregarded, yet it carries the same information as nerve firings, but as an immaterial wave of energy, rather than a flow of atoms in and out of the nerves.
This electromagnetic field is well-known and is routinely detected by brain-scanning techniques such as electroencephalogram (EEG) and magnetoencephalography (MEG) but has previously been dismissed as irrelevant to brain function. Instead, McFadden proposes that the brain’s information-rich electromagnetic field is in fact itself the seat of consciousness, driving ‘free will’ and voluntary actions.
This new theory also accounts for why, despite their immense complexity and ultra-fast operation, today’s computers have not exhibited the slightest spark of consciousness; however, with the right technical development, robots that are aware and can think for themselves could become a reality.
Johnjoe McFadden, Professor of Molecular Genetics and Director of the Quantum Biology Doctoral Training Centre at the University of Surrey, said: “How brain matter becomes aware and manages to think is a mystery that has been pondered by philosophers, theologians, mystics and ordinary people for millennia. I believe this mystery has now been solved, and that consciousness is the experience of nerves plugging into the brain’s self-generated electromagnetic field to drive what we call ‘free will’ and our voluntary actions.”

I'm especially concerned about the final sentence that claims that consciousness is the experience of nerves plugging into the brain's electromagnetic field.

That seems to assume what it's trying to explain. Even if all the rest of it makes sense (and I'm not in a position to judge), what does it mean for nerves to "experience" anything? Isn't that the issue to be explained?

-- Russ Abbott
Professor, Computer Science
California State University, Los Angeles

Patrick Reilly

Re: How to Repurpose Your Old Gadgets Step away from the trash bin!

Does anyone think there is anything to this?

I doubt that it addresses the free will argument, but it might be relevant to modelling information transmission within the organic nervous system . . .

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 1:30 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Don’t worry about it.

Thread hygiene has never been one of FRIAM’s strong suits.

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Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
[hidden email]
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Russ Abbott
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:28 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] How to Repurpose Your Old Gadgets Step away from the trash bin!

Sorry, this should have been a new topic.

-- Russ Abbott
Professor, Computer Science
California State University, Los Angeles

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 1:27 PM Russ Abbott <[hidden email]> wrote:
Does anyone think there is anything to this?

Electromagnetic energy in the brain enables brain matter to create our consciousness and our ability to be aware and think, according to a new theory developed by Professor Johnjoe McFadden from the University of Surrey.

When neurons in the brain and nervous system fire, they not only send the familiar electrical signal down the wire-like nerve fibres, but they also send a pulse of electromagnetic energy into the surrounding tissue. Such energy is usually disregarded, yet it carries the same information as nerve firings, but as an immaterial wave of energy, rather than a flow of atoms in and out of the nerves.
This electromagnetic field is well-known and is routinely detected by brain-scanning techniques such as electroencephalogram (EEG) and magnetoencephalography (MEG) but has previously been dismissed as irrelevant to brain function. Instead, McFadden proposes that the brain’s information-rich electromagnetic field is in fact itself the seat of consciousness, driving ‘free will’ and voluntary actions.
This new theory also accounts for why, despite their immense complexity and ultra-fast operation, today’s computers have not exhibited the slightest spark of consciousness; however, with the right technical development, robots that are aware and can think for themselves could become a reality.
Johnjoe McFadden, Professor of Molecular Genetics and Director of the Quantum Biology Doctoral Training Centre at the University of Surrey, said: “How brain matter becomes aware and manages to think is a mystery that has been pondered by philosophers, theologians, mystics and ordinary people for millennia. I believe this mystery has now been solved, and that consciousness is the experience of nerves plugging into the brain’s self-generated electromagnetic field to drive what we call ‘free will’ and our voluntary actions.”

I'm especially concerned about the final sentence that claims that consciousness is the experience of nerves plugging into the brain's electromagnetic field.

That seems to assume what it's trying to explain. Even if all the rest of it makes sense (and I'm not in a position to judge), what does it mean for nerves to "experience" anything? Isn't that the issue to be explained?

-- Russ Abbott
Professor, Computer Science
California State University, Los Angeles
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