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What do you think, folks? Worth the effort? TJ ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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I suggest using Tor.
https://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html.en
With Macports there is an install target `tor' and `torsocks'. Several Linux distributions have these install targets too
The former, when running, will provide a SOCKS proxy which you can point applications at either by running them inside `torsocks' or by entering in the Tor SOCKS host info for that app. However, in the case of web browsing, there is already a Torbrowser which is a stripped-down browser designed for safety.
It depends what you want to accomplish. If you just want to keep well-positioned agents from intercepting your traffic for archival, https everywhere or an encrypted e-mail is a good start fine (Microsoft can provide the latter). If you want to make it
expensive for anyone to identify you, take a look at Tor. It is also possible to couple a VPN to Tor, in case for some reason there is reason to think there are agents looking for use of Tor from your connection point. Tor is slow compared to a VPN.
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The upswing in VPN talk after the privacy regression is interesting. I like the idea of a volatile swarm of VPNs. But in the end, they'll all (eventually) be traceable back to the person/org that paid for them. [*] Tor (and other peer networks) escape this to an extent by blindly spreading and diluting traffic. Tor is a commons. Everytime you use Tor, you're taking on some tiny share of the responsibility for any traffic that wanders across any Tor node. Everyone that runs a relay node, especially an exit node, contributes to that commons. The recent yammer about VPNs seems associated with our private-property-based capitalist mindset, to me. You don't want others _gaming_ you by using your stuff without your permission and you want to feel like you're a self-made person, so you don't game others by using their stuff. (At least most of us follow some "fair play" intuition like that, even if we don't recognize how much shared infrastructure we rely on.) It's this intrinsic belief in private property, ownership, that the advertisers (and criminals and crime fighters) use to the best effect. So, while VPNs are interesting, they don't do anything fundamentally different than what most people already do. Now, a swarm of VPNs funded by an ESOP ... or by donations and "laundered" through the EFF or ACLU, _would_ do more. But it would be the latter part, the socialist infrastructure that does the work, not the VPNs. All dutiful non-neo+(con|liberal)s should be running relay nodes and using Tor -- and donating $ to the EFF -- as much as possible. 8^) [*] Data Patterns Reveal Trump Tower/Spectrum Health Ran a “Stealth Data Machine” With Russia https://teapainusa.wordpress.com/2017/04/03/data-patterns-suggest-trump-towerspectrum-health-ran-a-stealth-data-machine-with-russia/ On 04/09/2017 01:25 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > It depends what you want to accomplish. If you just want to keep well-positioned agents from intercepting your traffic for archival, https everywhere or an encrypted e-mail is a good start fine (Microsoft can provide the latter). If you want to make it expensive for anyone to identify you, take a look at Tor. It is also possible to couple a VPN to Tor, in case for some reason there is reason to think there are agents looking for use of Tor from your connection point. Tor is slow compared to a VPN. > ______________ > From: Friam <[hidden email]> on behalf of Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> > Sent: Sunday, April 9, 2017 1:10:40 PM > To: Friam@redfish. com > Subject: [FRIAM] How I made my own VPN server in 15 minutes | TechCrunch > > What do you think, folks? Worth the effort? > > https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/09/how-i-made-my-own-vpn-server-in-15-minutes/?ncid=tcdaily > [https://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/wtf-vpn.jpg?w=764&h=140&crop=1]<https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/09/how-i-made-my-own-vpn-server-in-15-minutes/?ncid=tcdaily> > > How I made my own VPN server in 15 minutes<https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/09/how-i-made-my-own-vpn-server-in-15-minutes/?ncid=tcdaily> > techcrunch.com -- ☣ glen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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Glen writes:
< You don't want others _gaming_ you by using your stuff without your permission and you want to feel like you're a self-made person, so you don't game others by using their stuff. > I figured it was just a habit to purchase a service rather than to participate in the collective, or a lack of awareness, or a failure of imagination. Or maybe a sense that there are good guys and bad guys and one should select them one at a time? Marcus ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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Yeah, maybe. I suppose whether it's "belief" or "habit" depends on one's understanding of ontogeny, psych, culture, etc. The Tea Partiers' with their Medicare & Social Security and the Occupy protesters with their electronic gadgets highlight that our habitualized infrastructure usage isn't always obvious. On 04/10/2017 11:30 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > I figured it was just a habit to purchase a service rather than to participate in the collective, or a lack of awareness, or a failure of imagination. Or maybe a sense that there are good guys and bad guys and one should select them one at a time? -- ☣ glen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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There's also some discomfort that comes with participating in any complex system. There may be other uses it is put to than the one intended; there may be unknown liabilities. The Tea Partiers' would reasonably observe this is true of a government too. A government does a lot of things, and some of them are alarming, even if they are legal.
-----Original Message----- From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of glen ? Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 12:35 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] How I made my own VPN server in 15 minutes | TechCrunch Yeah, maybe. I suppose whether it's "belief" or "habit" depends on one's understanding of ontogeny, psych, culture, etc. The Tea Partiers' with their Medicare & Social Security and the Occupy protesters with their electronic gadgets highlight that our habitualized infrastructure usage isn't always obvious. On 04/10/2017 11:30 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > I figured it was just a habit to purchase a service rather than to participate in the collective, or a lack of awareness, or a failure of imagination. Or maybe a sense that there are good guys and bad guys and one should select them one at a time? -- ☣ glen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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Heh, like a functionally useless act of war without congressional approval: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syrian-planes-shayrat-air-base-homes-us-air-strikes-syrian-observatory-human-rights-bashar-al-assad-a7673511.html On 04/10/2017 11:42 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > There's also some discomfort that comes with participating in any complex system. There may be other uses it is put to than the one intended; there may be unknown liabilities. The Tea Partiers' would reasonably observe this is true of a government too. A government does a lot of things, and some of them are alarming, even if they are legal. -- ☣ glen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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"Heh, like a functionally useless act of war without congressional approval" It distances him from Putin, so it is useful to him. And the babies, don't forget about the babies! (Although it was fine was they were washing up on the shore.) Marcus ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Marcus Daniels <[hidden email]> wrote:
Or being shipped back to Hungary to be housed in shipping containers? From an earlier message from Glen:
Didn't this turn out to be a conspiracy theory built on a fact? There were packets between Spectrum Health and a Russian bank, but what the packets meant was largely made up -- oh, I see, this is a new spin on the story, a database replication pattern is detected. That could still be made up. -- rec -- ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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Heh, you say "conspiracy theory" like it's a bad thing. 8^) I'm starting to worry that the literati are using "conspiracy theory" in the same way the Trumpians are using "fake news". Regardless, I'm happy that people like this Tea Pain person exist, just like I was happy to read the posts arguing that Obama's birth certificate was assembled by a desktop publishing app. It's a great way to test yourself and your membership in your group(s) ... Do you believe it? Yes? Why? No? Why? And (to go back to the subject of the thread) regardless of +(whether anyone|who) believes some idea, can you _use_ it to accomplish your goals? It's pretty exciting/terrifying to imagine "data scientists" being involved in whether or not Trump will remain president ... fact or fiction, just as exciting as the (failed) extradition of dorks like Snowden, Assange, and Levashov.
On 04/10/2017 03:50 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > [*] Data Patterns Reveal Trump Tower/Spectrum Health Ran a “Stealth Data Machine” With Russia > https://teapainusa.wordpress.com/2017/04/03/data-patterns-suggest-trump-towerspectrum-health-ran-a-stealth-data-machine-with-russia/ <https://teapainusa.wordpress.com/2017/04/03/data-patterns-suggest-trump-towerspectrum-health-ran-a-stealth-data-machine-with-russia/> > > > Didn't this turn out to be a conspiracy theory built on a fact? There were packets between Spectrum Health and a Russian bank, but what the packets meant was largely made up -- oh, I see, this is a new spin on the story, a database replication pattern is detected. That could still be made up. -- ␦glen? -- ☣ glen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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Glen -
> Heh, you say "conspiracy theory" like it's a bad thing. 8^) I've a friend with impeccable timing who can say: "is it a conspiracy theory?" ..... "or a good business plan?" At first I didn't fully appreciate the duality... certainly "a good business plan" requires a certain amount of secrecy and some "conspiracy"... > I'm starting to worry that the literati are using "conspiracy theory" in the same way the Trumpians are using "fake news". Regardless, I'm happy that people like this Tea Pain person exist, just like I was happy to read the posts arguing that Obama's birth certificate was assembled by a desktop publishing app. It's a great way to test yourself and your membership in your group(s) ... Do you believe it? Yes? Why? No? Why? And (to go back to the subject of the thread) regardless of +(whether anyone|who) believes some idea, can you _use_ it to accomplish your goals? It's pretty exciting/terrifying to imagine "data scientists" being involved in whether or not Trump will remain president ... fact or fiction, just as exciting as the (failed) extradition of dorks like Snowden, Assange, and Levashov. We do live in interesting (exciting?) times? But for that I could take a motorcycle out on the twisty NM roads just a little too fast and wonder around which corner I was going to find the patch of gravel or the elk or the pileup caused by the last person who went around that corner a little too fast. I guess I"m getting old! > > > On 04/10/2017 03:50 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: >> [*] Data Patterns Reveal Trump Tower/Spectrum Health Ran a “Stealth Data Machine” With Russia >> https://teapainusa.wordpress.com/2017/04/03/data-patterns-suggest-trump-towerspectrum-health-ran-a-stealth-data-machine-with-russia/ <https://teapainusa.wordpress.com/2017/04/03/data-patterns-suggest-trump-towerspectrum-health-ran-a-stealth-data-machine-with-russia/> >> >> >> Didn't this turn out to be a conspiracy theory built on a fact? There were packets between Spectrum Health and a Russian bank, but what the packets meant was largely made up -- oh, I see, this is a new spin on the story, a database replication pattern is detected. That could still be made up. > ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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< It's pretty exciting/terrifying to imagine "data scientists" being involved in whether or not Trump will remain president ... > As much as I like to see O'Reilly suffer, it is annoying how advertisers turn to social media consultants (and data science) to quantify the anger towards him (or other hot topics) rather than saying "Given the evidence we think you’re a scumbag, and we're dropping you" rather than asking if enough of their customers or potential customers think he is a scumbag. It says to me they don't care if he is a scumbag, or even guilty; they care if he is radioactive and a liability. Marcus ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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> Glen writes: > > < It's pretty exciting/terrifying to imagine "data scientists" being involved in whether or not Trump will remain president ... > > > As much as I like to see O'Reilly suffer, it is annoying how advertisers turn to social media consultants (and data science) to quantify the anger towards him (or other hot topics) rather than saying "Given the evidence we think you’re a scumbag, and we're dropping you" rather than asking if enough of their customers or potential customers think he is a scumbag. It says to me they don't care if he is a scumbag, or even guilty; they care if he is radioactive and a liability. Who *doesn't* know he's a scumbag? Surely the people who choose to advertise with Fox already know the general level of scumbaggery involved and some sense of the specific personalities there. It is O'Reilly's scumbaggery (just like other loudmouth pundits of his style like the not-quite-late/never-great Rush Bimbaugh) that gets them their ratings. They are popular *because* they are loudmouth jerks with no obvious true moral compass (is that what you mean by scumbag?). Sadly my mother is someone who doesn't know he's a scumbag, somehow she has been duped by his bombastic style and the echo chamber of Fox and their many dittos into believing that he is really "looking out for our best interests!" . I forgive her, she's 87, and at ONE TIME in her life was one of the most thoughtful and progressive people I knew. Age and loss have lead to fear which makes her vulnerable to their rhetoric. I believe it is a similar type of fear that makes the "unwashed masses" huddled in the red states watch Fox News 24/7 and vote for dickheads. They simply don't see that they are being manipulated by fear (and some greed) by fairly unsophisticated, but apparently effective rhetoric. Unfortunately there is a lesser version of all this running on the opposite side of the aisle too. We got to see it fairly clearly when the DNC/Hillary machine went after Bernie (and Jill). I really enjoyed watching Colbert go on O'Reilly's show and the way he stood up to him firmly and kept everything on topic and refused to be reduced in any way to O'Reilly's level. A perfect juxtapose to this was Colbert hosting Bruce Willis where he insisted Willis doesn't do his own stunts and the two end up squaring off and doing fight-stunts together for a while. Colbert is amazingly versatile. > > Marcus > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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Interesting coincidence, I was reading http://www.rss.org.uk/Images/PDF/publications/2017/Gelman-Hennig-April-17.pdf because the authors are talking in London tomorrow. I won't be there, but I got notified and the abstract was interesting, so I watched a youtube of Andrew Gelman and Chris Hennig interviewing each other about their paper over a hangout. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvoJdz_3cMg They claim that the usage of "objective" and "subjective" in statistics is unhelpful, because there are finer grained aspects of objectivity and subjectivity which are more helpful to talk about, and the finer grained aspects aren't diametrically opposed like subj... and obj.... Then, later in the discussion, Hennig talks about how clients want the data and the received art to make all the decisions for them, they do not want to choose anything if they can avoid it. That's very much like corps wanting to decide whether to support/unsupport a media figure based on the social media likes/unlikes rather than any intrinsic moral preference. Sort of like poll driven political campaigns, too, reactionary all the way down. -- rec -- -- rec -- On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Steven A Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
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< They are popular *because* they are loudmouth jerks with no obvious true moral compass (is that what you mean by scumbag?). > There is a benefit when people that have examined their lives and the world around them lead those that are unable or unwilling to do the same. Without this leadership, some of the latter group are prone to irresponsible behavior that can bring harm to everyone. Unfortunately, there is limited incentive to provide this leadership, only the certainty of trouble otherwise. It is not clear to me how to rebuild these control systems for this century. It seems to be a burden on productive people. So what we have instead are populist scumbags who see that all of this ignorance can be exploited for personal gain. The deeper problem are all the thoughtless prey that need to be herded around and told what to think. The scumbags are just one kind of natural predator. Marcus ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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Unfortunately I agree.
I was aware of this AS "thoughtless prey" after I got snookered into helping Ronald Reagan displace Jimmy Carter for what turned out to be *all the wrong reasons*... It was a painful but good lesson. I was a mere 22 at the time. I could have known better, but I didn't. I raised my daughters very carefully to make sure they were not easy prey for this kind of stuff, but my older daughter still fell to the populist meme that suggested that Hillary was the best choice for president because she is a woman and a democrat and "her time had come". She finally now acknowledges that Bernie was very mishandled by both Hillary and the DNC and that he had a significantly better chance to have kept the Donald out... but she was adamant right up through the counting and shouting that went on through January. We are too often the dreaded "sheeple". Baaahhaaaa! On 4/11/17 4:49 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Steve writes: > > < They are popular *because* they are loudmouth jerks with no obvious true moral compass (is that what you mean by scumbag?). > > > There is a benefit when people that have examined their lives and the world around them lead those that are unable or unwilling to do the same. Without this leadership, some of the latter group are prone to irresponsible behavior that can bring harm to everyone. Unfortunately, there is limited incentive to provide this leadership, only the certainty of trouble otherwise. It is not clear to me how to rebuild these control systems for this century. It seems to be a burden on productive people. So what we have instead are populist scumbags who see that all of this ignorance can be exploited for personal gain. The deeper problem are all the thoughtless prey that need to be herded around and told what to think. The scumbags are just one kind of natural predator. > > Marcus > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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[Bernie] "...had a significantly better chance to have kept the Donald out." I fear this was too speculative for me to put any money on the line in Vegas. If wishes were horses..... T. ============================================ Tom Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA 505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h) Society of Professional Journalists Check out It's The People's Data On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Steven A Smith <[hidden email]> wrote: Unfortunately I agree. ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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There are the sheeple, and then there the people that can't see the forest for the trees.
-----Original Message----- From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Steven A Smith Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 5:22 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] How I made my own VPN server in 15 minutes | TechCrunch Unfortunately I agree. I was aware of this AS "thoughtless prey" after I got snookered into helping Ronald Reagan displace Jimmy Carter for what turned out to be *all the wrong reasons*... It was a painful but good lesson. I was a mere 22 at the time. I could have known better, but I didn't. I raised my daughters very carefully to make sure they were not easy prey for this kind of stuff, but my older daughter still fell to the populist meme that suggested that Hillary was the best choice for president because she is a woman and a democrat and "her time had come". She finally now acknowledges that Bernie was very mishandled by both Hillary and the DNC and that he had a significantly better chance to have kept the Donald out... but she was adamant right up through the counting and shouting that went on through January. We are too often the dreaded "sheeple". Baaahhaaaa! On 4/11/17 4:49 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Steve writes: > > < They are popular *because* they are loudmouth jerks with no obvious > true moral compass (is that what you mean by scumbag?). > > > There is a benefit when people that have examined their lives and the world around them lead those that are unable or unwilling to do the same. Without this leadership, some of the latter group are prone to irresponsible behavior that can bring harm to everyone. Unfortunately, there is limited incentive to provide this leadership, only the certainty of trouble otherwise. It is not clear to me how to rebuild these control systems for this century. It seems to be a burden on productive people. So what we have instead are populist scumbags who see that all of this ignorance can be exploited for personal gain. The deeper problem are all the thoughtless prey that need to be herded around and told what to think. The scumbags are just one kind of natural predator. > > Marcus > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe > at St. John's College to unsubscribe > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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The scavengers and cannibals end up as the new aristocrats.
Why did Tillerson even bother to meet Lavrov today... they are not even in the same weight class. Tillerson looks like a man running a corner gas station in a rural area of Nebraska. Well so Lavrov opened with a history lesson and to remind the world how we got in this mess. How did the world elect so many well-groomed idiots following the fashionable Western Ideologies. This thread needs a better name, it is not even funny in a black-hearted manner. Does anyone remember the era of pay toilets. That was one much hated fashion trend that finally died off. Evolution of dumb ideas. Extinction of the unfit. I remember how easy it was to get free parking on campus by using a syringe of crazy glue to foul the mechanisms of parking meters, and keep the flag in place. Symbolic thinking has its downsides... Imagine crazy glue under Trump's ass or on his cell phone. Some dumb ideas just have to come to an end sooner than later. Fashion trends are currently the substitute for intellect and morality. vib -----Original Message----- From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: April-11-17 7:58 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] How I made my own VPN server in 15 minutes | TechCrunch There are the sheeple, and then there the people that can't see the forest for the trees. -----Original Message----- From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Steven A Smith Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 5:22 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] How I made my own VPN server in 15 minutes | TechCrunch Unfortunately I agree. I was aware of this AS "thoughtless prey" after I got snookered into helping Ronald Reagan displace Jimmy Carter for what turned out to be *all the wrong reasons*... It was a painful but good lesson. I was a mere 22 at the time. I could have known better, but I didn't. I raised my daughters very carefully to make sure they were not easy prey for this kind of stuff, but my older daughter still fell to the populist meme that suggested that Hillary was the best choice for president because she is a woman and a democrat and "her time had come". She finally now acknowledges that Bernie was very mishandled by both Hillary and the DNC and that he had a significantly better chance to have kept the Donald out... but she was adamant right up through the counting and shouting that went on through January. We are too often the dreaded "sheeple". Baaahhaaaa! On 4/11/17 4:49 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Steve writes: > > < They are popular *because* they are loudmouth jerks with no obvious > true moral compass (is that what you mean by scumbag?). > > > There is a benefit when people that have examined their lives and the world around them lead those that are unable or unwilling to do the same. Without this leadership, some of the latter group are prone to irresponsible behavior that can bring harm to everyone. Unfortunately, there is limited incentive to provide this leadership, only the certainty of trouble otherwise. It is not clear to me how to rebuild these control systems for this century. It seems to be a burden on productive people. So what we have instead are populist scumbags who see that all of this ignorance can be exploited for personal gain. The deeper problem are all the thoughtless prey that need to be herded around and told what to think. The scumbags are just one kind of natural predator. > > Marcus > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe > at St. John's College to unsubscribe > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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On 04/12/2017 03:52 PM, Vladimyr wrote:
> Fashion trends are currently the substitute for intellect and morality. But this is what vapid terms like "fake news" and "conspiracy theory" are for, right? ... to identify members of our tribe? That skinny stick boy in the Caterpillar hat, that soft-skinned hipster in the Che shirt, the pimply-faced kid in the camo pants, the glassy-eyed redneck singing along with Patsy Cline ... fashion is how we distinguish who belongs vs. who is dangerous. Intellect and morality are delusional fantasies. More on topic, it's these signals, these symbols, like which sites to which you encrypt your visits or UDP vs TCP that tell us everything we need to know about you. -- ☣ glen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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