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Jochen Fromm-5

Google+ Circles and Social Networks

Is anyone on Google+ already? I think
it is definitely a step in the right direction.
The circle concept is interesting.
Apparently people are indeed members in
multiple groups, for example you might
be in the FRIAM group, but also in other
groups, like the Stanford Alumni Association
or the parrot breeder group of Valley Springs
in South Dakota, for example.

The basic element in a social network
is a link from one node to another, such
as friendship, relationship, membership,
kinship or following. The "circle of friends"
or "circle of trust" seems to be the place where
a link from an individual intersects with a group.
Similar to a coupling constant in QFT:
if someone has many acquaintances in a group
and a large circle of friends, he has a "strong coupling"
with it, if he knows only a few and his circle of
friends is small, the coupling is weak, too.

-J.

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lrudolph

Re: Google+ Circles and Social Networks

> Is anyone on Google+ already? I think
> it is definitely a step in the right direction.
> The circle concept is interesting.

...as Dante said to Virgil.

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Sarbajit Roy (testing)

Re: Google+ Circles and Social Networks

In reply to this post by Jochen Fromm-5

Yet another nail in privacy's coffin. Who ELSE do you know ?

http://www.consciousape.com/news/google-bankrolled-by-the-cia/
http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/14-01-2010/111657-google_china-0/

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:26 AM, Jochen Fromm <[hidden email]> wrote:

Is anyone on Google+ already? I think it is definitely a step in the right direction.
The circle concept is interesting. Apparently people are indeed members in multiple groups, for example you might
be in the FRIAM group, but also in other
groups, like the Stanford Alumni Association
or the parrot breeder group of Valley Springs in South Dakota, for example.

The basic element in a social network
is a link from one node to another, such as friendship, relationship, membership, kinship or following. The "circle of friends" or "circle of trust" seems to be the place where a link from an individual intersects with a group.
Similar to a coupling constant in QFT:
if someone has many acquaintances in a group and a large circle of friends, he has a "strong coupling" with it, if he knows only a few and his circle of friends is small, the coupling is weak, too.

-J.

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Jochen Fromm-5

Re: Google+ Circles and Social Networks

In reply to this post by lrudolph

You mean the 9 circles of hell in
Dante's Divine Comedy?

-J.

----- Original Message -----
From: <[hidden email]>
To: "The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Google+ Circles and Social Networks

>> Is anyone on Google+ already? I think
>> it is definitely a step in the right direction.
>> The circle concept is interesting.
>
> ...as Dante said to Virgil.
>
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Jochen Fromm-5

Re: Google+ Circles and Social Networks

I have got an account today
https://plus.google.com/104191362647183926227
Does anybody has a FRIAM circle? ;-)

-J.

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James Steiner

Re: Google+ Circles and Social Networks

I'm in it now. it looks like the very simple concept of posting
messages to circles lets you emulate everything from twitter feeds
(short messages to the world) to newletters (longer posts to a group)
to chat rooms (posts exchanged among members of a group) to chat and
IM (posts to a single person or a one-person circle)

Interesting. Also the video-chat "hangouts" might be fun and/or
useful. Instant collaboration and mutal interest meeting spaces.

~~James

> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Jochen Fromm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> I have got an account today https://plus.google.com/104191362647183926227
>> Does anybody has a FRIAM circle? ;-)
>>
>> -J.
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Victoria Hughes

Re: Google+ Circles and Social Networks

I just signed up, am on the list: is there a quicker way to get an
account?
Went to Jochen's page, looks nice and clean. Of course pictures of the
Maldives beaches are helpful. Does a trip there come with the G+
account?...

Tory

On Jul 8, 2011, at 7:07 PM, James Steiner wrote:

> I'm in it now. it looks like the very simple concept of posting
> messages to circles lets you emulate everything from twitter feeds
> (short messages to the world) to newletters (longer posts to a group)
> to chat rooms (posts exchanged among members of a group) to chat and
> IM (posts to a single person or a one-person circle)
>
> Interesting. Also the video-chat "hangouts" might be fun and/or
> useful. Instant collaboration and mutal interest meeting spaces.
>
> ~~James
>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Jochen Fromm <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>> I have got an account today https://plus.google.com/104191362647183926227
>>> Does anybody has a FRIAM circle? ;-)
>>>
>>> -J.
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Jochen Fromm-5

Re: Google+ Circles and Social Networks

Hi Victoria,

Welcome :-) I added Glen and Robert to my FRIAM
circle, is this your profile? Why is the subtitle "sausage" ?
https://plus.google.com/117046334838659119290

Yes, you get a trip to an island of your choice, a new
tesla roadster and a few first class Google stocks ;-)
The Maldives islands are indeed wonderful. They are
near India, but mainly visited by European tourists because
they are quite expensive. A bit like Tahiti or French
Polynesia, which is probably closer to the US.

-J.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Victoria Hughes" <[hidden email]>
To: "The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Google+ Circles and Social Networks

>I just signed up, am on the list: is there a quicker way to get an
>account?
> Went to Jochen's page, looks nice and clean. Of course pictures of the
> Maldives beaches are helpful. Does a trip there come with the G+
> account?...
>
> Tory
>
>

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Grant Holland

Re: Google+ Circles and Social Networks

Jochen,

I hope this doesn't mean that we are now going to have two places to go to follow FRIAM conversations: The FRIAM mail alias AND a Google+ Circle!!

Grant

On 7/9/11 1:27 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote:

Hi Victoria,

Welcome :-) I added Glen and Robert to my FRIAM
circle, is this your profile? Why is the subtitle "sausage" ?
https://plus.google.com/117046334838659119290

Yes, you get a trip to an island of your choice, a new
tesla roadster and a few first class Google stocks ;-)
The Maldives islands are indeed wonderful. They are
near India, but mainly visited by European tourists because
they are quite expensive. A bit like Tahiti or French
Polynesia, which is probably closer to the US.

-J.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Victoria Hughes" [hidden email]
To: "The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group" [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Google+ Circles and Social Networks

I just signed up, am on the list: is there a quicker way to get an account?
Went to Jochen's page, looks nice and clean. Of course pictures of the Maldives beaches are helpful. Does a trip there come with the G+ account?...

Tory

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Jochen Fromm-5

Re: Google+ Circles and Social Networks

Hi Grant,

Google+ is maybe a good addendum to a
mailing list. It is maybe not the perfect
place for an elaborate discussion among
peers, but it is easier if you want to share
multimedia objects, i.e. if you want to
post a link, a photo or a video, or if
you want to make a quick comment. And it
is interesting to check out a new technology.
Are you on Google+, too?

It is more a real threat for Facebook and
Twitter, because it offers similar features,
only better.

-J.

----- Original Message -----
From: Grant Holland
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Google+ Circles and Social Networks

Jochen,

I hope this doesn't mean that we are now going to have two places to go to
follow FRIAM conversations: The FRIAM mail alias AND a Google+ Circle!!

Grant

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Owen Densmore

Re: Google+ Circles and Social Networks

Administrator

/. on Google+ bug: http://goo.gl/SJq8G

They experienced a server disk full which stimulated massive notifications.

-- Owen

Grant Holland

Re: Google+ Circles and Social Networks

In reply to this post by Jochen Fromm-5

Jochen,

The level of interaction on Facebook is too high for my style, and the
filtering through circles-of-trust mechanisms too low. After about 48
hours, I bailed from Facebook some months ago.

I'm not on Google+, but the circle concept would seem to be the right
approach. I would consider it. Maybe I should give it a whirl.

However, I must confess that the mailing alias really is the level of
interaction that I think I want from FRIAM (and from several other
social networks to which I belong). Email with href links seems to work
well.

Grant

On 7/10/11 3:13 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote:

> Hi Grant,
>
> Google+ is maybe a good addendum to a
> mailing list. It is maybe not the perfect
> place for an elaborate discussion among
> peers, but it is easier if you want to share
> multimedia objects, i.e. if you want to
> post a link, a photo or a video, or if
> you want to make a quick comment. And it
> is interesting to check out a new technology.
> Are you on Google+, too?
>
> It is more a real threat for Facebook and
> Twitter, because it offers similar features,
> only better.
>
> -J.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: Grant Holland
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 6:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Google+ Circles and Social Networks
>
> Jochen,
>
> I hope this doesn't mean that we are now going to have two places to
> go to follow FRIAM conversations: The FRIAM mail alias AND a Google+
> Circle!!
>
> Grant
>
>
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