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I blush to say that I'm not current with blockchain technology. Or why it works. Or why I'd want to use it. If it is as robust as it appears, I'm wondering if it will have the same revolutionary impact on the internet (tcp/ip and protocols built on top of it), as the Brave browser is having on the web and browsers. Brave does use bitcoin for contributing to content providers. For example, would an IMAP email tech built on top on blockchains make email safer and make many vulnerabilities impossible? On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Josh or someone else can explain it better than i. It's been a thing for as you know for Peering and P2P since IIRC the 80s. It's basically how banks works. It got popular with 'fake' (*.Coin) money to sensably ask: well if (insert economy) simply isn't working. Then these might be a better idea. And they might be right. Time will tell. Steve raved/ranted to me and others how it wasn't new but now sexy because people other than banks (bland) can use it for everything from Streaming Spotify, to P2P gaming and lots more. I like you find it black magic yet cool (Clear as mud?) On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Owen Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:
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There's still time for early registration here:
https://2017.pqcrypto.org/conference/ If I had even the slightest professional duties in the space, I'd take advantage of the opportunity to visit Utrecht! On 05/18/2017 09:13 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote: > Josh or someone else can explain it better than i. It's been a thing for as > you know for Peering and P2P since IIRC the 80s. It's basically how banks > works. It got popular with 'fake' (*.Coin) money to sensably ask: well if > (insert economy) simply isn't working. Then these might be a better idea. > And they might be right. Time will tell. > Steve raved/ranted to me and others how it wasn't new but now sexy because > people other than banks (bland) can use it for everything from Streaming > Spotify, to P2P gaming and lots more. > > I like you find it black magic yet cool > (Clear as mud?) > > > > On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Owen Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> I blush to say that I'm not current with blockchain technology. Or why it >> works. Or why I'd want to use it. >> >> If it is as robust as it appears, I'm wondering if it will have the same >> revolutionary impact on the internet (tcp/ip and protocols built on top of >> it), as the Brave browser is having on the web and browsers. Brave does use >> bitcoin for contributing to content providers. >> >> For example, would an IMAP email tech built on top on blockchains make >> email safer and make many vulnerabilities impossible? >> >> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> Techno evolution? >>> >>> https://blockgeeks.com/guides/what-is-blockchain-technology/ -- ☣ glen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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As an example where it's used for games: From what I gather, someone who works with it by all meen step in: A bunch someone asks a lot of dwarfs that work reely reeely fast for help offering beer if they all agree. Well if one of the dwarfs says are you sure the cart heading to ank mork pork we just saw was red. The others can check double check their notes reely reely quickly to make sure they did see a red cart carying beer to Mor Pork. Well they work reely fast and get their budies together to help do someone sort out their house and paint a door then go out for beer. Because they kept reely good notes for their buddies when some else comes along to mugle up the nice house they built and painted you the person asking for that chain (dwarfs in this bad analogy) And (at least how I understand it) since many blockchain compatible tools also use Kaza and or other kinds of P2P tech when (or if) something goes wrong all the dwarfs can check their notes. As you know from being an advocate of (then P2P) and called cloud now Everyone in the chain gets a copy of the notes some dwarfs can read the building blue prints This can be reely reeely good. As a gamer when game studios (looking at you Sony and Blizzard) were early adopters of BlockChain and in their case P2P stunts it means that for example if I buy game on steam behind the scenes Steam asks lots and lots of dwarfs for where I amd builds the game (Portal ) on my computer. So what if I want to install it on other computer? Forunatly Valves answer was that's fine you payed for Portal already No problem! Here's some reading glasses (a key) to prove this is your acount. At that time it was very much beta. However earlier this year Amazon at one of their summets anounced their Delta system that uses a BlockChain stunt. I have no idea how it works. It somehow lets someone borrow spare bits and free cycle on their entire cloud for everything from distrubuted backup and weby-web page or app building and testing. To rendering 3D scenes in the new transformer movie. Like other beta techs their's snags. Forunatly Valve's answer for avoid (some) snags is asking me for a new email adress and password since the one I put in wasn't working. In the case of Amazon's e-book system though it's not that straitforward (or wasn't when I needed to download it to my lap top last year) Their's probably some weird obscure way to get through their incryption and Dad, you know you don't have to always "put a book on the table hope my youngest (me) geeks out on it" you can just ask ya know! I know you're about 4E or 1001110...but reely? a stunt you tried when you were about 100011 between jobs since Apple had some pretty (in)Famous drama.... On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Owen Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:
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There’s an article in Quanta Magazine (https://www.quantamagazine.org)
that claims RSA encryption will still be viable after the quantum computing revolution. I only skimmed it, but what struck me was the mention of terabyte encryption keys. --Barry On 18 May 2017, at 10:37, glen ☣ wrote: > There's still time for early registration here: > > https://2017.pqcrypto.org/conference/ > > If I had even the slightest professional duties in the space, I'd take > advantage of the opportunity to visit Utrecht! > > On 05/18/2017 09:13 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote: >> Josh or someone else can explain it better than i. It's been a thing >> for as >> you know for Peering and P2P since IIRC the 80s. It's basically how >> banks >> works. It got popular with 'fake' (*.Coin) money to sensably ask: >> well if >> (insert economy) simply isn't working. Then these might be a better >> idea. >> And they might be right. Time will tell. >> Steve raved/ranted to me and others how it wasn't new but now sexy >> because >> people other than banks (bland) can use it for everything from >> Streaming >> Spotify, to P2P gaming and lots more. >> >> I like you find it black magic yet cool >> (Clear as mud?) >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Owen Densmore <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >> >>> I blush to say that I'm not current with blockchain technology. Or >>> why it >>> works. Or why I'd want to use it. >>> >>> If it is as robust as it appears, I'm wondering if it will have the >>> same >>> revolutionary impact on the internet (tcp/ip and protocols built on >>> top of >>> it), as the Brave browser is having on the web and browsers. Brave >>> does use >>> bitcoin for contributing to content providers. >>> >>> For example, would an IMAP email tech built on top on blockchains >>> make >>> email safer and make many vulnerabilities impossible? >>> >>> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Techno evolution? >>>> >>>> https://blockgeeks.com/guides/what-is-blockchain-technology/ > > > -- > ☣ glen > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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Very cool. Thanks for the idea! I've never profiled either GPG or any blockchain transactions. Ever since the 2nd round of StorJ testing, I began using my Coinbase wallet exclusively ... My penchant for wiping and reinstalling the OS kept interfering with my (lack of) wallet management. On 05/18/2017 10:02 AM, Barry MacKichan wrote: > There’s an article in Quanta Magazine (https://www.quantamagazine.org) that claims RSA encryption will still be viable after the quantum computing revolution. I only skimmed it, but what struck me was the mention of terabyte encryption keys. -- ☣ glen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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And "get ready" has more than one dimension:
It Isn’t Ransomware, But It Will Take Over Your Server Anyway http://www.pandasecurity.com/mediacenter/pandalabs/ransomware-remote-desktop-protocol/ On 05/17/2017 12:36 PM, Tom Johnson wrote: > Techno evolution? > > https://blockgeeks.com/guides/what-is-blockchain-technology/ -- ☣ glen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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CPU based mining is incredibly inefficient. The most advanced ASIC miners (Antminer9, $2500) are 100,000 times faster than a CPU for bitcoin mining. Maybe if it was a KNL many-core you could get one more zero of that. So, somehow they've got to hijack 10,000-100,000 computers through RDP just to match what they could put on a desk? Ok, hijacking the machines is a way to get free energy, but wouldn't it be easier to hide a dedicated miner in a dorm or an obscure campus closet?
Speaking of dumb criminals, what kind of moron goes after Ariane Grande fans? This forces the social conservatives in the west to get behind a dazzling young feminist and engages all these young fans at an early age to realize that the impact ideology, religion, and politics can have on their lives. ISIS is a little short on critical thinking skills, it seems! Marcus -----Original Message----- From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of glen ? Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 9:59 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Get ready for Blockchain And "get ready" has more than one dimension: It Isn’t Ransomware, But It Will Take Over Your Server Anyway http://www.pandasecurity.com/mediacenter/pandalabs/ransomware-remote-desktop-protocol/ On 05/17/2017 12:36 PM, Tom Johnson wrote: > Techno evolution? > > https://blockgeeks.com/guides/what-is-blockchain-technology/ -- ☣ glen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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@*Coin mining. FWIW When I was way more into that and a few times got bout 3Euro/2bucks worth around 014 my handle was in was a alto coin mining guild. FWIW at that time for me it was a heck of a lot faster to kind of 'fish' for boins on AltCoin. It pretty cool because somehow they had a system set up where my computers spare CPU and Graphics memory and processing would go out with these guys for 2-3 ours and after 3 days I had enough to get a coke. LOL not exactly fast for me. It was weirldly somehow a lot faster and nicer to the computer to do that then for the graphics card to run at full steam. At that time I was into PeerCoin and LiteCoin. For some reason I thought P2P or CloudCoin would gane traction and sanity where it seemed like BitCoin had jumped into a deep end and then some. One of the Cloud/WebCoin clients: CloudCoin and CloudCoin mining info for those curius Huh as I look at that I wonder if the AltCoin CloudCoin merged or is defunct. On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Marcus Daniels <[hidden email]> wrote: CPU based mining is incredibly inefficient. The most advanced ASIC miners (Antminer9, $2500) are 100,000 times faster than a CPU for bitcoin mining. Maybe if it was a KNL many-core you could get one more zero of that. So, somehow they've got to hijack 10,000-100,000 computers through RDP just to match what they could put on a desk? Ok, hijacking the machines is a way to get free energy, but wouldn't it be easier to hide a dedicated miner in a dorm or an obscure campus closet? ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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On 05/23/2017 12:05 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> CPU based mining is incredibly inefficient. Right. But the point is about the unintended social side effects of any given tech. E.g. script kiddies trying to hijack your computer for mining because they don't understand as much about mining as they think they understand. It's akin to underage people posting too much info about themselves, then suffering the consequences for the rest of their lives. The decentralization rhetoric surrounding blockchain tech has been described as a ripe platform for right wing extremism. It's related (more deeply than analogy, I think) to online bullying, fake news, sovereign citizenry, and a whole host of other bad outcomes, much of which relies on the intellectual foundations of libertarianism. > Speaking of dumb criminals, what kind of moron goes after Ariane Grande fans? This forces the social conservatives in the west to get behind a dazzling young feminist and engages all these young fans at an early age to realize that the impact ideology, religion, and politics can have on their lives. ISIS is a little short on critical thinking skills, it seems! Hm. You sound like an optimist. The more likely outcome is that more people end up believing we need a "strong man" like Trump or Erdogan to take the fight to the bad guys ... more military, less education, less healthcare, less science ... thereby granting the wishes of their authoritarian brethren in ISIS and the Taliban. -- ☣ glen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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Glen writes:
<Hm. You sound like an optimist. The more likely outcome is that more people end up believing we need a "strong man" like Trump or Erdogan to take the fight to the bad guys ... more military, less education, less healthcare, less science ... thereby granting the wishes of their authoritarian brethren in ISIS and the Taliban.> Perhaps market forces can help here. If in order for entertainers to entertain, it may become necessary to hire sophisticated private security. Ariana's people could take additional measures that ordinary law enforcement could not. It seems there could be an opportunity for cyber/physical security companies to seek out various political or cultural organizations as customers. Cross the wrong defense fund, they don't just send lawyers, they send an ops team. It really just depends on the risks and the rewards what becomes the norm. Marcus ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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Ah, yes, here it is. I should have bookmarked it. Trump, Clinton, and the Electoral Politics of Bitcoin http://www.uncomputing.org/?p=1826 On 05/23/2017 12:41 PM, glen ☣ wrote: > The decentralization rhetoric surrounding blockchain tech has been described as a ripe platform for right wing extremism. It's related (more deeply than analogy, I think) to online bullying, fake news, sovereign citizenry, and a whole host of other bad outcomes, much of which relies on the intellectual foundations of libertarianism. -- ☣ glen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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The concept of a secure distributed ledger (e.g. blockchain) doesn't itself really imply a political motive.
Comey has talked about the dangers of encryption (iPhone) to governance and law enforcement. And there was the attempts at making the Clipper chip back in the 90s. There are always going to people that double-down on exercise of centralized, privileged access & power as the only real solution. Alternatively, one can entertain the possibility that governance can fail catastrophically. Not necessarily due to any malice or corruption of leaders, but simply because millions of people have growing & irreconcilable differences. If you find yourself on the losing end of that, then what? Tools like cryptocurrency help to limit power of any organization. In doing so, they facilitate crime and carry other risks. There's no free lunch. -----Original Message----- From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of glen ? Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:33 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Get ready for Blockchain Ah, yes, here it is. I should have bookmarked it. Trump, Clinton, and the Electoral Politics of Bitcoin http://www.uncomputing.org/?p=1826 On 05/23/2017 12:41 PM, glen ☣ wrote: > The decentralization rhetoric surrounding blockchain tech has been described as a ripe platform for right wing extremism. It's related (more deeply than analogy, I think) to online bullying, fake news, sovereign citizenry, and a whole host of other bad outcomes, much of which relies on the intellectual foundations of libertarianism. -- ☣ glen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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Well sure, TANSTAAFL. But, especially given Owen's (and apparently Stephen's) loaded question "What is complexity?", to write it all off as "tools don't imply political motives" is, itself, a loaded answer. We have overwhelming evidence that complexity is bound up with robustness through mechanisms for phenomena like scale-free, fractal, far from equilibrium, etc. And that clearly implies that an earnest application of a tool (from hammers to blockchains), one that actually tries to solve problems rather than extract wealth for a sub-group, should make an attempt to reify those phenomena. So, as I suggested in the exploit post: "get ready for blockchain" also means "get ready for exploitative tactics with and around blockchain tech." That article Tom posted focused exclusively on the happy-go-lucky, hyperbolic, utopian dream, ignoring the nightmare that lurks beneath. On 05/23/2017 02:01 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > The concept of a secure distributed ledger (e.g. blockchain) doesn't itself really imply a political motive. -- ☣ glen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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Back in the Usenet days, people would prefix remarks like that as "Ob complexity" to pacify the relevant people.
One example in the news of adaptive criminality are churches that give sanctuary to individuals now facing deportation. Ob buzzword: These agents may be symmetry breaking! Marcus Sent from my iPhone > On May 24, 2017, at 8:51 AM, glen ☣ <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Well sure, TANSTAAFL. But, especially given Owen's (and apparently Stephen's) loaded question "What is complexity?", to write it all off as "tools don't imply political motives" is, itself, a loaded answer. We have overwhelming evidence that complexity is bound up with robustness through mechanisms for phenomena like scale-free, fractal, far from equilibrium, etc. And that clearly implies that an earnest application of a tool (from hammers to blockchains), one that actually tries to solve problems rather than extract wealth for a sub-group, should make an attempt to reify those phenomena. > > So, as I suggested in the exploit post: "get ready for blockchain" also means "get ready for exploitative tactics with and around blockchain tech." That article Tom posted focused exclusively on the happy-go-lucky, hyperbolic, utopian dream, ignoring the nightmare that lurks beneath. > >> On 05/23/2017 02:01 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >> The concept of a secure distributed ledger (e.g. blockchain) doesn't itself really imply a political motive. > > -- > ☣ glen > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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Ha! The obligatory pointing out of the least resistive path. Or perhaps as Gillian might point out, those who state the obvious exhibit more power (∀V≠0|R→0,P→±∞).
On 05/24/2017 09:30 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Back in the Usenet days, people would prefix remarks like that as "Ob complexity" to pacify the relevant people. -- ☣ glen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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But V doesn't occur within the scope of the universal quantifier. Where do you find the logic symbols?
Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz Santa Fe, NM 87505 [hidden email] [hidden email] Phone: (505) 995-8715 Cell: (505) 670-9918 -----Original Message----- From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of glen ? Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:59 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Get ready for Blockchain Ha! The obligatory pointing out of the least resistive path. Or perhaps as Gillian might point out, those who state the obvious exhibit more power (∀V≠0|R→0,P→±∞). On 05/24/2017 09:30 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Back in the Usenet days, people would prefix remarks like that as "Ob complexity" to pacify the relevant people. -- ☣ glen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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UTF-8 /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose
On 05/24/2017 10:50 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > But V doesn't occur within the scope of the universal quantifier. Where do you find the logic symbols? -- ☣ glen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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Oh, and
Special characters across all X apps http://blog.agent-based-modeling.com/index.php/gepr/scaaxa The tricky ones are the "Combining" characters like the ̶s̶t̶r̶i̶k̶e̶o̶u̶t. On 05/24/2017 10:47 AM, glen ☣ wrote: > UTF-8 /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose > > On 05/24/2017 10:50 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote: >> But V doesn't occur within the scope of the universal quantifier. Where do you find the logic symbols? > -- ☣ glen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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