Friam Today

[Frank Wimberly-2]

There were only four of us at Friam today.  Three of us got there early and the fourth walked.  Also the coffee shop was full of students. This was apparently all because of a presentation by the College administration about St. John's new tuition policy in which the tuition is being reduced by tens of thousands of dollars per year.  The parking lot was virtually full by the time I got there at about 8:45.  I assume it was lack of parking that caused such low attendance.  I hope to see you New Mexico Friam members next week.

Frank

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[Alfredo Covaleda Vélez-2]

Reduction in the tuition. It is a joke. Isn't it?

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 12:33 PM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

There were only four of us at Friam today.  Three of us got there early and the fourth walked.  Also the coffee shop was full of students. This was apparently all because of a presentation by the College administration about St. John's new tuition policy in which the tuition is being reduced by tens of thousands of dollars per year.  The parking lot was virtually full by the time I got there at about 8:45.  I assume it was lack of parking that caused such low attendance.  I hope to see you New Mexico Friam members next week.

Frank

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[Frank Wimberly-2]

https://www.sjc.edu/admissions-and-aid/financial-aid/tuition-costs

The tuition had been considerably higher, I believe.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 12:05 PM Alfredo Covaleda Vélez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Reduction in the tuition. It is a joke. Isn't it?

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 12:33 PM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

There were only four of us at Friam today.  Three of us got there early and the fourth walked.  Also the coffee shop was full of students. This was apparently all because of a presentation by the College administration about St. John's new tuition policy in which the tuition is being reduced by tens of thousands of dollars per year.  The parking lot was virtually full by the time I got there at about 8:45.  I assume it was lack of parking that caused such low attendance.  I hope to see you New Mexico Friam members next week.

Frank

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[Frank Wimberly-2]

Also this

http://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/st-john-s-college-plans-major-tuition-decrease/article_ff2c397d-b162-55f1-a0d5-75b25fe34876.html

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 12:15 PM Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

https://www.sjc.edu/admissions-and-aid/financial-aid/tuition-costs

The tuition had been considerably higher, I believe.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 12:05 PM Alfredo Covaleda Vélez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Reduction in the tuition. It is a joke. Isn't it?

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 12:33 PM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

There were only four of us at Friam today.  Three of us got there early and the fourth walked.  Also the coffee shop was full of students. This was apparently all because of a presentation by the College administration about St. John's new tuition policy in which the tuition is being reduced by tens of thousands of dollars per year.  The parking lot was virtually full by the time I got there at about 8:45.  I assume it was lack of parking that caused such low attendance.  I hope to see you New Mexico Friam members next week.

Frank

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[Nick Thompson]

Hi, Frank,

 

Yes.  That’s an exciting bit of news.  I have no “inside information” about what is going on, but inferring from my experience at Clark University, St. Johns taking on the almost universal practice of stating notional “sticker prices” which only the wealthiest students pay and which help to pay the tuitions of their less fortunate colleagues.   I am ambivalent about it, myself, since the practice Incorporates the fact that for rich people to get any education worth its salt, there HAVE to be poor people around them.  Nothing poisons the mind so thoroughly as living amongst unseemly wealth.  Talk about “entitlement”.  Yuck!  

 

On the other hand, for institutions of higher education, devoted after all to the pursuit of truth, to base their tuition structure on a lie, is also icky, so I applaud the experiment.  St. Johns apparently feels that this policy will get them an even more balanced student body than the practice of overstating tuition costs to include scholarship costs.  Making tuition costs more honest will go a long way to challenging the exaggeration of higher education inflation, which comes largely from accommodating rich students in the style to which they are accustomed so that enough of them will apply to pay for the poorer ones.  (Apparently, the Umass dining hall is now serving sushi!)

 

Frank Bruni wrote about the change in the NYT.  In less than 24 hours, 1200 comments accumulated, a few mindless, but many interested.  They are still available at the link above, or I scraped the site and put them in a word file, above.

 

See you in three weeks,

 

Nick

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 1:34 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: [FRIAM] Friam Today

 

There were only four of us at Friam today.  Three of us got there early and the fourth walked.  Also the coffee shop was full of students. This was apparently all because of a presentation by the College administration about St. John's new tuition policy in which the tuition is being reduced by tens of thousands of dollars per year.  The parking lot was virtually full by the time I got there at about 8:45.  I assume it was lack of parking that caused such low attendance.  I hope to see you New Mexico Friam members next week.

 

Frank

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[Frank Wimberly-2]

Nick,

Good essay by Bruni. 

My wife, who went to Harvard (as you know, Nick), was made physically ill by the theme in The Social Network of the rich kids lording it over others because of their weekend trips to the Hamptons or Newport for coming out parties. 

Frank

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 1:59 PM Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi, Frank,

 

Yes.  That’s an exciting bit of news.  I have no “inside information” about what is going on, but inferring from my experience at Clark University, St. Johns taking on the almost universal practice of stating notional “sticker prices” which only the wealthiest students pay and which help to pay the tuitions of their less fortunate colleagues.   I am ambivalent about it, myself, since the practice Incorporates the fact that for rich people to get any education worth its salt, there HAVE to be poor people around them.  Nothing poisons the mind so thoroughly as living amongst unseemly wealth.  Talk about “entitlement”.  Yuck!  

 

On the other hand, for institutions of higher education, devoted after all to the pursuit of truth, to base their tuition structure on a lie, is also icky, so I applaud the experiment.  St. Johns apparently feels that this policy will get them an even more balanced student body than the practice of overstating tuition costs to include scholarship costs.  Making tuition costs more honest will go a long way to challenging the exaggeration of higher education inflation, which comes largely from accommodating rich students in the style to which they are accustomed so that enough of them will apply to pay for the poorer ones.  (Apparently, the Umass dining hall is now serving sushi!)

 

Frank Bruni wrote about the change in the NYT.  In less than 24 hours, 1200 comments accumulated, a few mindless, but many interested.  They are still available at the link above, or I scraped the site and put them in a word file, above.

 

See you in three weeks,

 

Nick

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 1:34 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: [FRIAM] Friam Today

 

There were only four of us at Friam today.  Three of us got there early and the fourth walked.  Also the coffee shop was full of students. This was apparently all because of a presentation by the College administration about St. John's new tuition policy in which the tuition is being reduced by tens of thousands of dollars per year.  The parking lot was virtually full by the time I got there at about 8:45.  I assume it was lack of parking that caused such low attendance.  I hope to see you New Mexico Friam members next week.

 

Frank

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Frank Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz
Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 670-9918

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[Marcus G. Daniels]

Factoid:  Facebook has the 45^th ranked supercomputer in the world, above Harvard and even the Atomic Weapons Establishment of the United Kingdom.

 

From: Friam <[hidden email]> on behalf of Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]>
Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Date: Friday, September 14, 2018 at 5:03 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Friam Today

 

Nick,

 

Good essay by Bruni. 

 

My wife, who went to Harvard (as you know, Nick), was made physically ill by the theme in The Social Network of the rich kids lording it over others because of their weekend trips to the Hamptons or Newport for coming out parties. 

 

Frank

 

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 1:59 PM Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi, Frank,

 

Yes.  That’s an exciting bit of news.  I have no “inside information” about what is going on, but inferring from my experience at Clark University, St. Johns taking on the almost universal practice of stating notional “sticker prices” which only the wealthiest students pay and which help to pay the tuitions of their less fortunate colleagues.   I am ambivalent about it, myself, since the practice Incorporates the fact that for rich people to get any education worth its salt, there HAVE to be poor people around them.  Nothing poisons the mind so thoroughly as living amongst unseemly wealth.  Talk about “entitlement”.  Yuck!  

 

On the other hand, for institutions of higher education, devoted after all to the pursuit of truth, to base their tuition structure on a lie, is also icky, so I applaud the experiment.  St. Johns apparently feels that this policy will get them an even more balanced student body than the practice of overstating tuition costs to include scholarship costs.  Making tuition costs more honest will go a long way to challenging the exaggeration of higher education inflation, which comes largely from accommodating rich students in the style to which they are accustomed so that enough of them will apply to pay for the poorer ones.  (Apparently, the Umass dining hall is now serving sushi!)

 

Frank Bruni wrote about the change in the NYT.  In less than 24 hours, 1200 comments accumulated, a few mindless, but many interested.  They are still available at the link above, or I scraped the site and put them in a word file, above.

 

See you in three weeks,

 

Nick

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 1:34 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: [FRIAM] Friam Today

 

There were only four of us at Friam today.  Three of us got there early and the fourth walked.  Also the coffee shop was full of students. This was apparently all because of a presentation by the College administration about St. John's new tuition policy in which the tuition is being reduced by tens of thousands of dollars per year.  The parking lot was virtually full by the time I got there at about 8:45.  I assume it was lack of parking that caused such low attendance.  I hope to see you New Mexico Friam members next week.

 

Frank

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Frank Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz
Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 670-9918

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Frank Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz
Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 670-9918

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[Frank Wimberly-2]

That makes sense.  Harvard has $40 billion endowment last I heard.  Facebook has a market cap much greater than that.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 5:19 PM Marcus Daniels <[hidden email]> wrote:

Factoid:  Facebook has the 45^th ranked supercomputer in the world, above Harvard and even the Atomic Weapons Establishment of the United Kingdom.

 

From: Friam <[hidden email]> on behalf of Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]>
Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Date: Friday, September 14, 2018 at 5:03 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Friam Today

 

Nick,

 

Good essay by Bruni. 

 

My wife, who went to Harvard (as you know, Nick), was made physically ill by the theme in The Social Network of the rich kids lording it over others because of their weekend trips to the Hamptons or Newport for coming out parties. 

 

Frank

 

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 1:59 PM Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi, Frank,

 

Yes.  That’s an exciting bit of news.  I have no “inside information” about what is going on, but inferring from my experience at Clark University, St. Johns taking on the almost universal practice of stating notional “sticker prices” which only the wealthiest students pay and which help to pay the tuitions of their less fortunate colleagues.   I am ambivalent about it, myself, since the practice Incorporates the fact that for rich people to get any education worth its salt, there HAVE to be poor people around them.  Nothing poisons the mind so thoroughly as living amongst unseemly wealth.  Talk about “entitlement”.  Yuck!  

 

On the other hand, for institutions of higher education, devoted after all to the pursuit of truth, to base their tuition structure on a lie, is also icky, so I applaud the experiment.  St. Johns apparently feels that this policy will get them an even more balanced student body than the practice of overstating tuition costs to include scholarship costs.  Making tuition costs more honest will go a long way to challenging the exaggeration of higher education inflation, which comes largely from accommodating rich students in the style to which they are accustomed so that enough of them will apply to pay for the poorer ones.  (Apparently, the Umass dining hall is now serving sushi!)

 

Frank Bruni wrote about the change in the NYT.  In less than 24 hours, 1200 comments accumulated, a few mindless, but many interested.  They are still available at the link above, or I scraped the site and put them in a word file, above.

 

See you in three weeks,

 

Nick

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 1:34 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: [FRIAM] Friam Today

 

There were only four of us at Friam today.  Three of us got there early and the fourth walked.  Also the coffee shop was full of students. This was apparently all because of a presentation by the College administration about St. John's new tuition policy in which the tuition is being reduced by tens of thousands of dollars per year.  The parking lot was virtually full by the time I got there at about 8:45.  I assume it was lack of parking that caused such low attendance.  I hope to see you New Mexico Friam members next week.

 

Frank

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Frank Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz
Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 670-9918

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Frank Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz
Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 670-9918

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