Now Glen has contaminated Jon with the style of putting footnotes with reference symbols in email messages, I have to protest. Footnoting as a sinful, lazy, nasty, indulgent, stuffy academic habit that should be stomped out wherever it emerges, no matter how ingenious and whimsical the reference symbols. But I love you both like brothers฿ ฿ really! Nick Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -----Original Message----- Further, if we only take what we will agree to in the long-run as truths, then it is very likely that we all aptly believe things that can never be true. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ |
Dude! These are NOT footnotes. They're end notes. >8^D And, they're anything but lazy. It takes a lot of work to figure out what symbols to use, make sure they're in the right order, decide what content should remain in the text and what part is merely self-indulgent commentary that belongs in the note. Etc.
I'd argue those of you who do NOT use end notes are lazy and stuffy, what with your unreadably long sentences and torturous vocabulary full of multi-syllable jargon implicitly citing whole libraries of the writings of old or dead people. On 8/5/20 12:24 PM, [hidden email] wrote: > Now Glen has contaminated Jon with the style of putting footnotes with reference symbols in email messages, I have to protest. Footnoting as a sinful, lazy, nasty, indulgent, stuffy academic habit that should be stomped out wherever it emerges, no matter how ingenious and whimsical the reference symbols. -- ↙↙↙ uǝlƃ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/
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I don't intend to trash either Glen or Jon, but I want to express my hearty agreement with you (Nick) about footnotes (as well as endnotes). For someone like myself with ADD/OCD tendencies, I just can't skip past one of these damn things without chasing said footnote/endnote. Since I read everything electronically these days, it's a major pain to get back to where I was, especially in PDF documents without good navigational facilities. And embedded URLs in web content? I think I've done a depth first search of the entire internet by now and haven't ever popped the stack back to the original document I was trying to read in the first place. As you said, PURE EVIL! Tongue firmly in cheek :-) On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 2:25 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:
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I agree with Glen, even though I am a likely example of half or more of
what he decries. I find the footnote/endnote/sidebar structure to be helpful in many/most cases, and acknowledge that I am both lazy and underpracticed at doing either well. I find the ingenious and whimsical reference symbols a nice distraction with a possible extra layer of crypto meaning? I find both Glen and Jon to be adept/astute enough to do this well, and have it not be nearly as arbitrary as if *I* for example were to be so self-indulgent as to join that particular fray. > Dude! These are NOT footnotes. They're end notes. >8^D And, they're anything but lazy. It takes a lot of work to figure out what symbols to use, make sure they're in the right order, decide what content should remain in the text and what part is merely self-indulgent commentary that belongs in the note. Etc. > > I'd argue those of you who do NOT use end notes are lazy and stuffy, what with your unreadably long sentences and torturous vocabulary full of multi-syllable jargon implicitly citing whole libraries of the writings of old or dead people. > > On 8/5/20 12:24 PM, [hidden email] wrote: >> Now Glen has contaminated Jon with the style of putting footnotes with reference symbols in email messages, I have to protest. Footnoting as a sinful, lazy, nasty, indulgent, stuffy academic habit that should be stomped out wherever it emerges, no matter how ingenious and whimsical the reference symbols. - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ |
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