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thompnickson2

Dear Eric and Bret

Jochen,

I have attached my draft letter to the Weinstein brothers.

Elderly as this lists is, I think there are only a few people on it old enough to have ever entertained the dream of the Jimmy Stewart Professorship. Do you know that once upon a time there was a culture of ambivalence around getting money for research? Most of the would-be academics on this list have encountered a much harsher reality. And now, among the Barista’s of Santa Fe, I regularly encounter young people whom I would gladly accept as my colleagues at any university, yet who will never get the chance.

It’s just so f***ing sad.

Nick

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Tom Johnson

Re: Dear Eric and Bret

"Young people," eh.
I visited two polling places this morning. Saw probably 30 people -- poll workers and voters. All but two were wearing masks. The two? Early 20-somethings.

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On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 12:18 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Jochen,

I have attached my draft letter to the Weinstein brothers.

Elderly as this lists is, I think there are only a few people on it old enough to have ever entertained the dream of the Jimmy Stewart Professorship. Do you know that once upon a time there was a culture of ambivalence around getting money for research? Most of the would-be academics on this list have encountered a much harsher reality. And now, among the Barista’s of Santa Fe, I regularly encounter young people whom I would gladly accept as my colleagues at any university, yet who will never get the chance.

It’s just so f***ing sad.

Nick
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Jochen Fromm-5

Re: Dear Eric and Bret

In reply to this post by thompnickson2

Not bad, and not what I expected. A bit sarcastic. I don't think you would get a response. You have to be one of the big guys.

-J.

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From: [hidden email]

Date: 6/2/20 20:18 (GMT+01:00)

To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' <[hidden email]>

Subject: [FRIAM] Dear Eric and Bret

Jochen,

I have attached my draft letter to the Weinstein brothers.

It’s just so f***ing sad.

Nick

thompnickson2

Re: Dear Eric and Bret

In reply to this post by thompnickson2

J—

Thanks for your take. I didn’t mean it to be sarcastic, so perhaps I should revisit that.

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

[hidden email]

https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Jochen Fromm
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 3:12 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Dear Eric and Bret

Not bad, and not what I expected. A bit sarcastic. I don't think you would get a response. You have to be one of the big guys.

-J.

-------- Original message --------

From: [hidden email]

Date: 6/2/20 20:18 (GMT+01:00)

To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' <[hidden email]>

Subject: [FRIAM] Dear Eric and Bret

Jochen,

I have attached my draft letter to the Weinstein brothers.

It’s just so f***ing sad.

Nick

Steve Smith

Re: Dear Eric and Bret

In reply to this post by Tom Johnson

I am not registered with either red nor blue party so did not vote this round, but I did take Mary to deliver her absentee ballot (since she failed to mail it on time). The early voting place in Pojoaque was not accepting them (early voting only) and they directed us to our normal place of polling which is on the San Ildefonso Pueblo where non-Pueblo members are distinctly not welcome even for voting.... we tried the El Rancho community center that *sometimes* is a polling place, but is closed. We finally chose to drive in to SFe the county Clerk and discovered that they were fully prepared... parking attendants helping people get in and out quickly to vote or drop a ballot... including carrying a box to drop it into *if we chose*. As we drove off, one said to the other "I can't believe how many people are coming today!?!"

I had it rubbed in my face recently that voting is a self-righteous act of ignorantly willful complicity with a system that doesn't work (my cynical paraphrase of something probably intended to say something entirely different), but I couldn't help feeling a little smug that the current troubles our A***Hole-in-Chief is stirring as hard as he can might be bringing out the vote, and almost entirely against him (albeit 5 months early). When I read the ballot, I realized I didn't have a clue about most of the candidates, and except for maybe one candidate I didn't trust what I *thought* I knew, instead being informed by the never-ending onslaught of positive/negative campaign literature and nothing else.

"Democracy is the worst form of government... except for all those we've tried so far" - Churchill

- Steve

On 6/2/20 3:08 PM, Tom Johnson wrote:

"Young people," eh.
I visited two polling places this morning. Saw probably 30 people -- poll workers and voters. All but two were wearing masks. The two? Early 20-somethings.
TJ

============================================
Tom Johnson - [hidden email]
Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA
505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h)
NM Foundation for Open Government
Check out It's The People's Data

============================================

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 12:18 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Jochen,

I have attached my draft letter to the Weinstein brothers.

Elderly as this lists is, I think there are only a few people on it old enough to have ever entertained the dream of the Jimmy Stewart Professorship. Do you know that once upon a time there was a culture of ambivalence around getting money for research? Most of the would-be academics on this list have encountered a much harsher reality. And now, among the Barista’s of Santa Fe, I regularly encounter young people whom I would gladly accept as my colleagues at any university, yet who will never get the chance.

It’s just so f***ing sad.

Nick

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thompnickson2

Re: Dear Eric and Bret

SORRY, everybody.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLb5hZLw44s

Above is a link to the podcast that was the original stimulus for my thread, which has now been hopelessly bent. Youth, miscreant or otherwise, has NOTHING to do with it. What does it have to do with? Well, with many things, actually. With the Distributed Idea Suppression Complex, which is concept I would expect to be close to the heart of many of us here, the institutions of academia that prevent interesting things from happening. But there are other things of interest, in the podcast: a Maoist student pogrom at Evergreen College that actually succeeded in ejecting a really good professor (I am surmising here—I stand ready to be dope-slapped) and a fascinating argument for why the procedures for the safety evaluation of drugs for chronic consumption are truly f*-ed up. It has to do with mouse-telomeres. I rarely watch video podcasts, but this one grabbed me.

Anyway, please accept my apology for starting a thread that could be easily bent.

Nick

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

[hidden email]

https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Steve Smith
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 5:32 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Dear Eric and Bret

"Democracy is the worst form of government... except for all those we've tried so far" - Churchill

- Steve

On 6/2/20 3:08 PM, Tom Johnson wrote:

"Young people," eh.
I visited two polling places this morning. Saw probably 30 people -- poll workers and voters. All but two were wearing masks. The two? Early 20-somethings.
TJ

============================================
Tom Johnson - [hidden email]
Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA
505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h)
NM Foundation for Open Government
Check out It's The People's Data
============================================

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 12:18 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:
Jochen,

I have attached my draft letter to the Weinstein brothers.

Elderly as this lists is, I think there are only a few people on it old enough to have ever entertained the dream of the Jimmy Stewart Professorship. Do you know that once upon a time there was a culture of ambivalence around getting money for research? Most of the would-be academics on this list have encountered a much harsher reality. And now, among the Barista’s of Santa Fe, I regularly encounter young people whom I would gladly accept as my colleagues at any university, yet who will never get the chance.

It’s just so f***ing sad.

Nick
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