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Tom Johnson
All:

First, kudos to Steve Guerin, Don Bagley, Owen Densmore, Roy Worth, Shawn
Barr, Simon, et al. for pulling off the first event at what we hope will
become (this month), the Santa Fe Complex.  The Bar Camp (
http://barcamp.org/BarCampSantaFe) on Friday and Saturday attracted >35
bright and accomplishing folks discussing and demo-ing a variety of
impressive tools and thinking.  (We hope to get some pics and vids up any
day now.)

I came away with a couple strong impressions:

   - I can't recall anyone talking about how much money THEY were going
   to make with this or that "product."  Everyone seemed engaged at an
   intellectual level, not a fiscal one.
   - A couple interesting and existing initiatives were mentioned
   involving how the synergy of the Digital Revolution can be used to improve
   health care and another I had never heard of, Freerice.com  This
   morning's New York Times Magazine is devoted to philanthropy, and the issue
   points up these projects.  Drill down into this link for some encouraging
   reading:  http://www.nytimes.com/pages/magazine/index.html
   - Interesting do-it-yourself (DIY) topics and MAKE magazine (
   http://www.makezine.com/) appeared in different ways at different
   times.  It just so happens that National Public Radio (in the USA) carried a
   related story this morning.  See/hear
   http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=87815753

--tj

==========================================
J. T. Johnson
Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA
www.analyticjournalism.com
505.577.6482(c)                                 505.473.9646(h)
http://www.jtjohnson.com                 tom at jtjohnson.com

"You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the
existing model obsolete."
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Phil Henshaw-2
Tom,
Thanks for the clips, and sincere congrats on the opening of the
'Complex', but I wish you guys would think a little about the physical
meaning of things.   It's not only that the first link you offered,
'Free Rice' is well intended but ill-conceived.   It's that that whole
approach is also profoundly misguided.   If ALL you do is provide rice
to people who can't make rice, what you propagate on the earth is
multiplying suffering, and we have just enough of that, thank you.   I
could go into detail, about how feeding people without making a whole
system bargain with them, disserves the people you intend to serve.
It also wastes the creative effort we so desperately need to salvage
some scrap of self-respect for our species within the mess we're making
of the earth.
 
Too strong?   Of course the truth is sometimes too strong for people.
Then they go huddle in their caves.   How the heck am I supposed to know
why you're so negligent?
 
I think the major hazard that nature as put in front of us, for us to
fall into over and over, is that we are each just individuals, each 'one
of a kind', independent beings alone in the universe each having their
own independent design and behavior, just like yours, just like mine.
We're ALL natural systems, reliant on what is self-consistent within in
our minds, to lead us to connection with what is self-inconsistent
around us.   We need to explore to find what's happening in any other
small world.
 

Phil Henshaw                       ????.?? ? `?.????
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
680 Ft. Washington Ave
NY NY 10040                      
tel: 212-795-4844                
e-mail: pfh at synapse9.com          
explorations: www.synapse9.com <http://www.synapse9.com/>    
-- "it's not finding what people say interesting, but finding what's
interesting in what they say" --

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On
Behalf Of Tom Johnson
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 8:56 PM
To: Friam at redfish. com
Subject: [FRIAM] DIY, MAKE, etc.


All:

First, kudos to Steve Guerin, Don Bagley, Owen Densmore, Roy Worth,
Shawn Barr, Simon, et al. for pulling off the first event at what we
hope will become (this month), the Santa Fe Complex.  The Bar Camp
(http://barcamp.org/BarCampSantaFe) on Friday and Saturday attracted >35
bright and accomplishing folks discussing and demo-ing a variety of
impressive tools and thinking.  (We hope to get some pics and vids up
any day now.)

I came away with a couple strong impressions:


* I can't recall anyone talking about how much money THEY were
going to make with this or that "product."  Everyone seemed engaged at
an intellectual level, not a fiscal one.

* A couple interesting and existing initiatives were mentioned
involving how the synergy of the Digital Revolution can be used to
improve health care and another I had never heard of, Freerice.com  This
morning's New York Times Magazine is devoted to philanthropy, and the
issue points up these projects.  Drill down into this link for some
encouraging reading:  http://www.nytimes.com/pages/magazine/index.html 


* Interesting do-it-yourself (DIY) topics and MAKE magazine
(http://www.makezine.com/) appeared in different ways at different
times.  It just so happens that National Public Radio (in the USA)
carried a related story this morning.  See/hear
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=87815753


--tj

==========================================
J. T. Johnson
Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA
www.analyticjournalism.com
505.577.6482(c)                                 505.473.9646(h)
http://www.jtjohnson.com                 tom at jtjohnson.com

"You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the
existing model obsolete."
                                                  -- Buckminster Fuller
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Douglas Roberts-2
Speaking of "truth", I'm concerned that there are a disproportionate number
of people who are considering becoming associated with the Complex that are
more interested in thinking beautiful thoughts than they are in addressing
how the $10K/month rent for the facility is going to get covered.

Sponsors, grants, and other "free" money will only go so far towards
building a viable, sustainable operation such as the Complex aspires to be.
People will also need to bring in projects and project money if the Complex
is to survive beyond the next three or four months.

--Doug

--
Doug Roberts, RTI International
droberts at rti.org
doug at parrot-farm.net
505-455-7333 - Office
505-670-8195 - Cell

On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Phil Henshaw <sy at synapse9.com> wrote:

>  Tom,
> Thanks for the clips, and sincere congrats on the opening of the
> 'Complex', but I wish you guys would think a little about the physical
> meaning of things.   It's not only that the first link you offered, 'Free
> Rice' is well intended but ill-conceived.   It's that that whole approach is
> also profoundly misguided.   If ALL you do is provide rice to people who
> can't make rice, what you propagate on the earth is multiplying suffering,
> and we have just enough of that, thank you.   I could go into detail, about
> how feeding people without making a whole system bargain with them,
> disserves the people you intend to serve.    It also wastes the creative
> effort we so desperately need to salvage some scrap of self-respect for our
> species within the mess we're making of the earth.
>
> Too strong?   Of course the truth is sometimes too strong for people.
> Then they go huddle in their caves.   How the heck am I supposed to know why
> you're so negligent?
>
> I think the major hazard that nature as put in front of us, for us to fall
> into over and over, is that we are each just individuals, each 'one of a
> kind', independent beings alone in the universe each having their own
> independent design and behavior, just like yours, just like mine.    We're
> ALL natural systems, reliant on what is self-consistent within in our minds,
> to lead us to connection with what is self-inconsistent around us.   We need
> to explore to find what's happening in any other small world.
>
>
> Phil Henshaw                       ????.?? ? `?.????
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 680 Ft. Washington Ave
> NY NY 10040
> tel: 212-795-4844
> e-mail: pfh at synapse9.com
> explorations: www.synapse9.com
> -- "it's not finding what people say interesting, but finding what's
> interesting in what they say" --
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> *From:* friam-bounces at redfish.com [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Tom Johnson
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 09, 2008 8:56 PM
> *To:* Friam at redfish. com
> *Subject:* [FRIAM] DIY, MAKE, etc.
>
> All:
>
> First, kudos to Steve Guerin, Don Bagley, Owen Densmore, Roy Worth, Shawn
> Barr, Simon, et al. for pulling off the first event at what we hope will
> become (this month), the Santa Fe Complex.  The Bar Camp (
> http://barcamp.org/BarCampSantaFe) on Friday and Saturday attracted >35
> bright and accomplishing folks discussing and demo-ing a variety of
> impressive tools and thinking.  (We hope to get some pics and vids up any
> day now.)
>
> I came away with a couple strong impressions:
>
>    - I can't recall anyone talking about how much money THEY were going
>    to make with this or that "product."  Everyone seemed engaged at an
>    intellectual level, not a fiscal one.
>    - A couple interesting and existing initiatives were mentioned
>    involving how the synergy of the Digital Revolution can be used to improve
>    health care and another I had never heard of, Freerice.com  This
>    morning's New York Times Magazine is devoted to philanthropy, and the issue
>    points up these projects.  Drill down into this link for some encouraging
>    reading:  http://www.nytimes.com/pages/magazine/index.html
>    - Interesting do-it-yourself (DIY) topics and MAKE magazine (
>    http://www.makezine.com/) appeared in different ways at different
>    times.  It just so happens that National Public Radio (in the USA) carried a
>    related story this morning.  See/hear
>    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=87815753
>
> --tj
>
> ==========================================
> J. T. Johnson
> Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA
> www.analyticjournalism.com
> 505.577.6482(c)                                 505.473.9646(h)
> http://www.jtjohnson.com                 tom at jtjohnson.com
>
> "You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
> To change something, build a new model that makes the
> existing model obsolete."
>                                                   -- Buckminster Fuller
> ==========================================
>
>
> ============================================================
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> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
>
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Merle Lefkoff
In reply to this post by Phil Henshaw-2
Phil Henshaw wrote:

Gosh, Phil Henshaw.  Do you really believe you're alone in the
universe?   How can you be alone in the universe and at home in the
universe at the same time?  Come home soon.  The world needs whole
systems thinkers.

Merle Lefkoff

> Tom,
> Thanks for the clips, and sincere congrats on the opening of the
> 'Complex', but I wish you guys would think a little about the physical
> meaning of things.   It's not only that the first link you offered,
> 'Free Rice' is well intended but ill-conceived.   It's that that whole
> approach is also profoundly misguided.   If ALL you do is provide rice
> to people who can't make rice, what you propagate on the earth is
> multiplying suffering, and we have just enough of that, thank you.   I
> could go into detail, about how feeding people without making a whole
> system bargain with them, disserves the people you intend to serve.    
> It also wastes the creative effort we so desperately need to salvage
> some scrap of self-respect for our species within the mess we're
> making of the earth.
>  
> Too strong?   Of course the truth is sometimes too strong for
> people.   Then they go huddle in their caves.   How the heck am I
> supposed to know why you're so negligent?
>  
> I think the major hazard that nature as put in front of us, for us to
> fall into over and over, is that we are each just individuals, each
> 'one of a kind', independent beings alone in the universe each having
> their own independent design and behavior, just like yours, just
> like mine.    We're ALL natural systems, reliant on what is
> self-consistent within in our minds, to lead us to connection with
> what is self-inconsistent around us.   We need to explore to find
> what's happening in any other small world.
>  
>
> Phil Henshaw                       ????.?? ? `?.????
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 680 Ft. Washington Ave
> NY NY 10040                      
> tel: 212-795-4844                
> e-mail: pfh at synapse9.com <mailto:pfh at synapse9.com>        
> explorations: www.synapse9.com <http://www.synapse9.com/>  
> -- "it's not finding what people say interesting, but finding what's
> interesting in what they say" --
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     *From:* friam-bounces at redfish.com
>     [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Johnson
>     *Sent:* Sunday, March 09, 2008 8:56 PM
>     *To:* Friam at redfish. com
>     *Subject:* [FRIAM] DIY, MAKE, etc.
>
>     All:
>
>     First, kudos to Steve Guerin, Don Bagley, Owen Densmore, Roy
>     Worth, Shawn Barr, Simon, et al. for pulling off the first event
>     at what we hope will become (this month), the Santa Fe Complex.
>     The Bar Camp (http://barcamp.org/BarCampSantaFe) on Friday and
>     Saturday attracted >35 bright and accomplishing folks discussing
>     and demo-ing a variety of impressive tools and thinking.  (We hope
>     to get some pics and vids up any day now.)
>
>     I came away with a couple strong impressions:
>
>         * I can't recall anyone talking about how much money THEY were
>           going to make with this or that "product."  Everyone seemed
>           engaged at an intellectual level, not a fiscal one.
>         * A couple interesting and existing initiatives were mentioned
>           involving how the synergy of the Digital Revolution can be
>           used to improve health care and another I had never heard
>           of, Freerice.com <http://Freerice.com>  This morning's New
>           York Times Magazine is devoted to philanthropy, and the
>           issue points up these projects.  Drill down into this link
>           for some encouraging reading:
>           http://www.nytimes.com/pages/magazine/index.html 
>         * Interesting do-it-yourself (DIY) topics and MAKE magazine
>           (http://www.makezine.com/) appeared in different ways at
>           different times.  It just so happens that National Public
>           Radio (in the USA) carried a related story this morning.
>           See/hear
>           http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=87815753
>
>     --tj
>
>     ==========================================
>     J. T. Johnson
>     Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA
>     www.analyticjournalism.com <http://www.analyticjournalism.com>
>     505.577.6482(c)                                 505.473.9646(h)
>     http://www.jtjohnson.com                 tom at jtjohnson.com
>     <mailto:tom at jtjohnson.com>
>
>     "You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
>     To change something, build a new model that makes the
>     existing model obsolete."
>                                                       -- Buckminster
>     Fuller
>     ==========================================
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ============================================================
> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org



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Merle Lefkoff
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Tom Johnson wrote:

Tom:

Thanks for the report to those of us who couldn't come to the big
opening day.   I'd like to say something about money, since it seems to
be an issue (when is it not).   I  love fund raising and consider it a  
sacred task for those of us who are social entrepreneurs in
social-profit (I no longer use the term non-profit) ventures.  We
redirect the stream of money in our society used to consume and destroy
and turn it toward life-affirming vision and mission.  The Complex is a
bold initiative, it is courageous to just go for it, and there are angel
donors in Santa Fe who can't wait to seed a Complex fund-raising
campaign, to get in on the ground floor with a group of people so smart
and so committed.  Every one of you needs to start compelling,
irresistable conversations with prospective donors:  "Thank you", for
starters, "for giving me the opportunity to ask you for money, my
favorite thing.  I want to invite you to be a major player in the most
exciting, blah, blah, blah."  You get the idea.  Check out Benevon.com
for a systematic approach that works, and good luck and congratulations.

Merle



> All:
>
> First, kudos to Steve Guerin, Don Bagley, Owen Densmore, Roy Worth,
> Shawn Barr, Simon, et al. for pulling off the first event at what we
> hope will become (this month), the Santa Fe Complex.  The Bar Camp
> (http://barcamp.org/BarCampSantaFe) on Friday and Saturday attracted
> >35 bright and accomplishing folks discussing and demo-ing a variety
> of impressive tools and thinking.  (We hope to get some pics and vids
> up any day now.)
>
> I came away with a couple strong impressions:
>
>     * I can't recall anyone talking about how much money THEY were
>       going to make with this or that "product."  Everyone seemed
>       engaged at an intellectual level, not a fiscal one.
>     * A couple interesting and existing initiatives were mentioned
>       involving how the synergy of the Digital Revolution can be used
>       to improve health care and another I had never heard of,
>       Freerice.com <http://Freerice.com>  This morning's New York
>       Times Magazine is devoted to philanthropy, and the issue points
>       up these projects.  Drill down into this link for some
>       encouraging reading:
>       http://www.nytimes.com/pages/magazine/index.html 
>     * Interesting do-it-yourself (DIY) topics and MAKE magazine
>       (http://www.makezine.com/) appeared in different ways at
>       different times.  It just so happens that National Public Radio
>       (in the USA) carried a related story this morning.  See/hear
>       http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=87815753
>
> --tj
>
> ==========================================
> J. T. Johnson
> Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA
> www.analyticjournalism.com <http://www.analyticjournalism.com>
> 505.577.6482(c)                                 505.473.9646(h)
> http://www.jtjohnson.com                 tom at jtjohnson.com
> <mailto:tom at jtjohnson.com>
>
> "You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
> To change something, build a new model that makes the
> existing model obsolete."
>                                                   -- Buckminster Fuller
> ==========================================
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ============================================================
> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org