Court: Judges Can Consider Predictive Algorithms in Sentencing

[Tom Johnson]

I think we should proceed with great caution on this one.

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2016/07/13/court-judges-can-consider-predictive-algorithms-in-sentencing/

TJ

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[Gillian Densmore]

Hmm so then soon we'll get halographic computers with Qbits and timelords guessing what me might do. That didn't end well.

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

I think we should proceed with great caution on this one.

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2016/07/13/court-judges-can-consider-predictive-algorithms-in-sentencing/

TJ

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[Pamela McCorduck]

So agree. We are *so* far from certain on this one.

On Aug 26, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

I think we should proceed with great caution on this one.

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2016/07/13/court-judges-can-consider-predictive-algorithms-in-sentencing/

TJ

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[Roger Critchlow-2]

yuval harari on a similar question http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/50bb4830-6a4c-11e6-ae5b-a7cc5dd5a28c.html#axzz4ITEeTSei excerpted from his new book, I think.

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On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Pamela McCorduck <[hidden email]> wrote:

So agree. We are *so* far from certain on this one.

On Aug 26, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

I think we should proceed with great caution on this one.

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2016/07/13/court-judges-can-consider-predictive-algorithms-in-sentencing/

TJ

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[Jacqueline Kazil]

I want to see the source code. 

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Roger Critchlow <[hidden email]> wrote:

yuval harari on a similar question http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/50bb4830-6a4c-11e6-ae5b-a7cc5dd5a28c.html#axzz4ITEeTSei excerpted from his new book, I think.

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On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Pamela McCorduck <[hidden email]> wrote:

So agree. We are *so* far from certain on this one.

On Aug 26, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

I think we should proceed with great caution on this one.

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2016/07/13/court-judges-can-consider-predictive-algorithms-in-sentencing/

TJ

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[Jacqueline Kazil]

Looks like someone has evaluated independently ... 

https://www.propublica.org/article/how-we-analyzed-the-compas-recidivism-algorithm

On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 12:52 AM, Jacqueline Kazil <[hidden email]> wrote:

I want to see the source code. 

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Roger Critchlow <[hidden email]> wrote:

yuval harari on a similar question http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/50bb4830-6a4c-11e6-ae5b-a7cc5dd5a28c.html#axzz4ITEeTSei excerpted from his new book, I think.

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On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Pamela McCorduck <[hidden email]> wrote:

So agree. We are *so* far from certain on this one.

On Aug 26, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

I think we should proceed with great caution on this one.

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2016/07/13/court-judges-can-consider-predictive-algorithms-in-sentencing/

TJ

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[Steve Smith]

Interesting development!  Slippery slope at the very least.

Seems like this is square between "profiling" and that  PK Dick story "Minority Report"

On 8/26/16 5:24 PM, Pamela McCorduck wrote:

So agree. We are *so* far from certain on this one.

On Aug 26, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

I think we should proceed with great caution on this one.

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2016/07/13/court-judges-can-consider-predictive-algorithms-in-sentencing/

TJ

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[Tom Johnson]

You saw this, right?

Looks like someone has evaluated independently ... 

https://www.propublica.org/article/how-we-analyzed-the-compas-recidivism-algorithm

On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 5:30 AM, Steven A Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

Interesting development!  Slippery slope at the very least.

Seems like this is square between "profiling" and that  PK Dick story "Minority Report"

On 8/26/16 5:24 PM, Pamela McCorduck wrote:

So agree. We are *so* far from certain on this one.

On Aug 26, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

I think we should proceed with great caution on this one.

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2016/07/13/court-judges-can-consider-predictive-algorithms-in-sentencing/

TJ

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[Owen Densmore]

The recent horrific killing of a 10 year old in santa fe makes me think that anything that can help with recidivism would be a Good Thing.

http://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/albuquerque-girl-s-killing-is-new-mexico-s-latest-horrific/article_e6c5c95a-6a1b-51e4-a42a-4ce241923d1b.html

If the predictive techniques can at least identify those who should be watched more closely, I reluctantly agree it would be useful to try to do so.

   -- Owen

On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

You saw this, right?

Looks like someone has evaluated independently ... 

https://www.propublica.org/article/how-we-analyzed-the-compas-recidivism-algorithm

On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 5:30 AM, Steven A Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

Interesting development!  Slippery slope at the very least.

Seems like this is square between "profiling" and that  PK Dick story "Minority Report"

On 8/26/16 5:24 PM, Pamela McCorduck wrote:

So agree. We are *so* far from certain on this one.

On Aug 26, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

I think we should proceed with great caution on this one.

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2016/07/13/court-judges-can-consider-predictive-algorithms-in-sentencing/

TJ

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