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Jochen Fromm-5

AgentScript

What is AgentScript? A kind of NetLogo in Javascript, jQuery, or CoffeeScript ? Sounds interesting.

-J.

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-------- Original message --------
From: Owen Densmore <[hidden email]>
Date:
To: Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: [FRIAM] Fwd: jashkenas/journo · GitHub

I realize our recent discussions have been away from tech, but this is an interesting blend, so its here rather than wedtech.

First of all, I decided that the bloat of current CMSs was ugly so wanted a clean, easily programmable blog engine. Jeremy Ashkenas was of like mind and being one of the JS heros, he decided to write a blog engine, Journo, in <500 lines of coffeescript.

https://github.com/jashkenas/journo

Why is this interesting?

- Culturally, he has so embraced Don Knuth's Literate Programming idea, that I bet most folks looking at the url above didn't notice that it is the actual program for Journo. Seriously, it reads like a "readme" for a project. Nope. It IS the project!

- Jeremy is serious about a whole new way of programming. And even in the open source world, he's found a way to monazite his work: he does code reading for a fee. We've made contact with him and are going to have AgentScript reviewed by him for $2.5K.

- Most blogs/CMSs have become such bloatware that even the sophisticated user/programmer cannot manage it or modify it. It is not "theirs". Indeed, the configuration tasks overwhelm the actual program.

- 500 lines of code. And the assumption you can read it, understand it, and modify it.

- BTW: the 1.0 release of agentscript is coming in at just a bit over 900 lines of code and it really does provide a NetLogo equivalent system.

- This is a, dare I say it, paradigm shift. Woo Woo! But really, Jeremy has entered a new era where you can code anything from your mainframe to your watch with the same infrastructure.

So when you can't really distinguish between your documentation and your code .. maybe this is a Good Thing?

Anyway, Back to our regularly scheduled programming. Hmmm...

-- Owen

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Owen Densmore

Re: AgentScript

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Its a very light weight NetLogo core written in CoffeeScript, coming in at under 1K lines of code, and using "literate programming" that's a coffeescript option. By core, I mean it has just the model w/o UI due to our embedding into many other systems.

Here's the github repo: https://github.com/backspaces/agentscript

The demo models should run right on github.

The wiki explains the approach we're taking.

The docs are a bit ragged due to some quick commits, but the plan is to have the last code complete within the week, with docs matching shortly thereafter.

-- Owen

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Jochen Fromm <[hidden email]> wrote:

What is AgentScript? A kind of NetLogo in Javascript, jQuery, or CoffeeScript ? Sounds interesting.

-J.

Sent from Android

-------- Original message --------
From: Owen Densmore <[hidden email]>
Date:
To: Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: [FRIAM] Fwd: jashkenas/journo · GitHub

I realize our recent discussions have been away from tech, but this is an interesting blend, so its here rather than wedtech.

First of all, I decided that the bloat of current CMSs was ugly so wanted a clean, easily programmable blog engine. Jeremy Ashkenas was of like mind and being one of the JS heros, he decided to write a blog engine, Journo, in <500 lines of coffeescript.

https://github.com/jashkenas/journo

Why is this interesting?
- Culturally, he has so embraced Don Knuth's Literate Programming idea, that I bet most folks looking at the url above didn't notice that it is the actual program for Journo. Seriously, it reads like a "readme" for a project. Nope. It IS the project!

- Jeremy is serious about a whole new way of programming. And even in the open source world, he's found a way to monazite his work: he does code reading for a fee. We've made contact with him and are going to have AgentScript reviewed by him for $2.5K.

- Most blogs/CMSs have become such bloatware that even the sophisticated user/programmer cannot manage it or modify it. It is not "theirs". Indeed, the configuration tasks overwhelm the actual program.

- 500 lines of code. And the assumption you can read it, understand it, and modify it.
- BTW: the 1.0 release of agentscript is coming in at just a bit over 900 lines of code and it really does provide a NetLogo equivalent system.
- This is a, dare I say it, paradigm shift. Woo Woo! But really, Jeremy has entered a new era where you can code anything from your mainframe to your watch with the same infrastructure.

So when you can't really distinguish between your documentation and your code .. maybe this is a Good Thing?

Anyway, Back to our regularly scheduled programming. Hmmm...

-- Owen

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Jochen Fromm-5

Re: AgentScript

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Looks good! Ants and boids, as usual. How did you solve the OOP-JS problem? Javascript is not really an object-oriented language, which would be useful to model agents.

-J.

Sent from Android

-------- Original message --------
From: Owen Densmore <[hidden email]>
Date:
To: Jochen Fromm <[hidden email]>,The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] AgentScript

Here's the github repo: https://github.com/backspaces/agentscript

The demo models should run right on github.

The wiki explains the approach we're taking.

The docs are a bit ragged due to some quick commits, but the plan is to have the last code complete within the week, with docs matching shortly thereafter.

-- Owen

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Jochen Fromm <[hidden email]> wrote:

What is AgentScript? A kind of NetLogo in Javascript, jQuery, or CoffeeScript ? Sounds interesting.

-J.

Sent from Android

-------- Original message --------
From: Owen Densmore <[hidden email]>
Date:
To: Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: [FRIAM] Fwd: jashkenas/journo · GitHub

I realize our recent discussions have been away from tech, but this is an interesting blend, so its here rather than wedtech.

First of all, I decided that the bloat of current CMSs was ugly so wanted a clean, easily programmable blog engine. Jeremy Ashkenas was of like mind and being one of the JS heros, he decided to write a blog engine, Journo, in <500 lines of coffeescript.

https://github.com/jashkenas/journo

Why is this interesting?
- Culturally, he has so embraced Don Knuth's Literate Programming idea, that I bet most folks looking at the url above didn't notice that it is the actual program for Journo. Seriously, it reads like a "readme" for a project. Nope. It IS the project!

- Jeremy is serious about a whole new way of programming. And even in the open source world, he's found a way to monazite his work: he does code reading for a fee. We've made contact with him and are going to have AgentScript reviewed by him for $2.5K.

- Most blogs/CMSs have become such bloatware that even the sophisticated user/programmer cannot manage it or modify it. It is not "theirs". Indeed, the configuration tasks overwhelm the actual program.

- 500 lines of code. And the assumption you can read it, understand it, and modify it.
- BTW: the 1.0 release of agentscript is coming in at just a bit over 900 lines of code and it really does provide a NetLogo equivalent system.
- This is a, dare I say it, paradigm shift. Woo Woo! But really, Jeremy has entered a new era where you can code anything from your mainframe to your watch with the same infrastructure.

So when you can't really distinguish between your documentation and your code .. maybe this is a Good Thing?

Anyway, Back to our regularly scheduled programming. Hmmm...

-- Owen

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Owen Densmore

Re: AgentScript

Administrator

CoffeeScript has classes, which use the most canonical JS OOP stunts, tho many sneer at the non-prototypal approach to programming. Basic classes are exactly the method==MyClass.prototype.method approach done in usual prototypal inheritance. Extended classes are simply a stack of prototypes, from the base class at the bottom to the instance variables on the top.

AS uses all three module patterns:

- util.coffee is your basic set of utilities inside an object, thus the functions can call each other via "this".

- shapes.coffee uses the "module" pattern, with a closure returning an object with the exported procedures

- agentset, agentsets, and model.coffee all use CS classes

Check out coffeescript.org.

-- Owen

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Jochen Fromm <[hidden email]> wrote:

Looks good! Ants and boids, as usual. How did you solve the OOP-JS problem? Javascript is not really an object-oriented language, which would be useful to model agents.

-J.

Sent from Android

-------- Original message --------
From: Owen Densmore <[hidden email]>
Date:
To: Jochen Fromm <[hidden email]>,The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] AgentScript

Its a very light weight NetLogo core written in CoffeeScript, coming in at under 1K lines of code, and using "literate programming" that's a coffeescript option. By core, I mean it has just the model w/o UI due to our embedding into many other systems.

Here's the github repo: https://github.com/backspaces/agentscript

The demo models should run right on github.

The wiki explains the approach we're taking.

The docs are a bit ragged due to some quick commits, but the plan is to have the last code complete within the week, with docs matching shortly thereafter.

-- Owen

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Jochen Fromm <[hidden email]> wrote:

What is AgentScript? A kind of NetLogo in Javascript, jQuery, or CoffeeScript ? Sounds interesting.

-J.

Sent from Android

-------- Original message --------
From: Owen Densmore <[hidden email]>
Date:
To: Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: [FRIAM] Fwd: jashkenas/journo · GitHub

I realize our recent discussions have been away from tech, but this is an interesting blend, so its here rather than wedtech.

First of all, I decided that the bloat of current CMSs was ugly so wanted a clean, easily programmable blog engine. Jeremy Ashkenas was of like mind and being one of the JS heros, he decided to write a blog engine, Journo, in <500 lines of coffeescript.

https://github.com/jashkenas/journo

Why is this interesting?
- Culturally, he has so embraced Don Knuth's Literate Programming idea, that I bet most folks looking at the url above didn't notice that it is the actual program for Journo. Seriously, it reads like a "readme" for a project. Nope. It IS the project!

- Jeremy is serious about a whole new way of programming. And even in the open source world, he's found a way to monazite his work: he does code reading for a fee. We've made contact with him and are going to have AgentScript reviewed by him for $2.5K.

- Most blogs/CMSs have become such bloatware that even the sophisticated user/programmer cannot manage it or modify it. It is not "theirs". Indeed, the configuration tasks overwhelm the actual program.

- 500 lines of code. And the assumption you can read it, understand it, and modify it.
- BTW: the 1.0 release of agentscript is coming in at just a bit over 900 lines of code and it really does provide a NetLogo equivalent system.
- This is a, dare I say it, paradigm shift. Woo Woo! But really, Jeremy has entered a new era where you can code anything from your mainframe to your watch with the same infrastructure.

So when you can't really distinguish between your documentation and your code .. maybe this is a Good Thing?

Anyway, Back to our regularly scheduled programming. Hmmm...

-- Owen

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Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
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