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Nick Thompson

A new kind of pfishing?

Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?

I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error messages to the network and offering to help me correct them. (I have the number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it to.) The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to them, I assume. These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for.

Does anybody recognize this?

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Douglas Roberts-2

Re: A new kind of pfishing?

I've gotten a few of those over the past few days from similarly accented people trying to tell me that my Windows machine was infected with a virus, but the callers' numbers were blocked.

No, I didn't bother to Linuxize them, although that would have been fun.

--Doug

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?

I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error messages to the network and offering to help me correct them. (I have the number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it to.) The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to them, I assume. These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for.

Does anybody recognize this?

N

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

http://www.cusf.org

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Doug Roberts
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Gillian Densmore

Re: A new kind of pfishing?

In reply to this post by Nick Thompson

YES I've gotten calls like that in the past from some people from china someplace trying to claim they work for MS. I don't know who to report them to. It's not just fishing it's "social engineering" (aka fraud and lying)- in my case the guy was all panicky that I might have malware and if I let him run my computer he'll fix it. I didn't let the guy get on with his sales pitch before hanging up on him. I run a regular virus sweep and malware sweep. I think he gave up after the third time I hung up on him. Why would I trust some complete stranger calling up going on and on about how many evil things might be on my computer-why would I trust someone who wasn't recomended to me by a someone who I trust to controll my computer-answer: I don't.

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?

I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error messages to the network and offering to help me correct them. (I have the number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it to.) The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to them, I assume. These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for.

Does anybody recognize this?

N

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

http://www.cusf.org

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Edward Angel

Re: A new kind of pfishing?

In reply to this post by Nick Thompson

<base href="x-msg://2673/">I got the call a couple of months ago. He tried to give the impression that he was working for Microsoft and they were doing the monitoring. He got very flustered when I pointed out that I had only Apple hardware and didn't run Windows. That didn't stop him from continuing his pitch. I finally had to shut him up by telling him what crook he was and hanging up. Actually I probably didn't shut him up but only moved him to the next one on his robodialer.

__________

Ed Angel

Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

1017 Sierra Pinon

Santa Fe, NM 87501
505-984-0136 (home) [hidden email]

505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel

On Mar 15, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:

Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?

I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error messages to the network and offering to help me correct them. (I have the number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it to.) The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to them, I assume. These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for.

Does anybody recognize this?

N

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
http://www.cusf.org

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Gillian Densmore

Re: A new kind of pfishing?

In reply to this post by Douglas Roberts-2

lol if you do record the conversation for our amusement (as well as good blog material).

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Douglas Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

I've gotten a few of those over the past few days from similarly accented people trying to tell me that my Windows machine was infected with a virus, but the callers' numbers were blocked.

No, I didn't bother to Linuxize them, although that would have been fun.

--Doug

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?

I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error messages to the network and offering to help me correct them. (I have the number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it to.) The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to them, I assume. These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for.

Does anybody recognize this?

N

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

http://www.cusf.org

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Gillian Densmore

Re: A new kind of pfishing?

In reply to this post by Edward Angel

Yes same here- I didn't give him the chance to get annywhere when could bairly say Microsoft I just hung up. That virln(Roach) is probably scurring around I doubt that the kind of person that goes to or is on the FRIAM list is his mark.

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Edward Angel <[hidden email]> wrote:

I got the call a couple of months ago. He tried to give the impression that he was working for Microsoft and they were doing the monitoring. He got very flustered when I pointed out that I had only Apple hardware and didn't run Windows. That didn't stop him from continuing his pitch. I finally had to shut him up by telling him what crook he was and hanging up. Actually I probably didn't shut him up but only moved him to the next one on his robodialer.

Ed

__________

Ed Angel

Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

1017 Sierra Pinon
Santa Fe, NM 87501
<a href="tel:505-984-0136" value="+15059840136" target="_blank">505-984-0136 (home) [hidden email]

<a href="tel:505-453-4944" value="+15054534944" target="_blank">505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel

On Mar 15, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:

Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?

I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error messages to the network and offering to help me correct them. (I have the number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it to.) The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to them, I assume. These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for.

Does anybody recognize this?

N

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
http://www.cusf.org

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Douglas Roberts-2

Re: A new kind of pfishing?

"Microsoft" is usually all it takes to get me to hang up as well.

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yes same here- I didn't give him the chance to get annywhere when could bairly say Microsoft I just hung up. That virln(Roach) is probably scurring around I doubt that the kind of person that goes to or is on the FRIAM list is his mark.

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Edward Angel <[hidden email]> wrote:

I got the call a couple of months ago. He tried to give the impression that he was working for Microsoft and they were doing the monitoring. He got very flustered when I pointed out that I had only Apple hardware and didn't run Windows. That didn't stop him from continuing his pitch. I finally had to shut him up by telling him what crook he was and hanging up. Actually I probably didn't shut him up but only moved him to the next one on his robodialer.

Ed

__________

Ed Angel

Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

1017 Sierra Pinon
Santa Fe, NM 87501
<a href="tel:505-984-0136" value="+15059840136" target="_blank">505-984-0136 (home) [hidden email]

<a href="tel:505-453-4944" value="+15054534944" target="_blank">505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel

On Mar 15, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:

Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?

I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error messages to the network and offering to help me correct them. (I have the number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it to.) The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to them, I assume. These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for.

Does anybody recognize this?

N

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
http://www.cusf.org

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Doug Roberts
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Edward Angel

Re: A new kind of pfishing?

Hanging up may not always be the best solution.

A while ago my wife was getting pornographic calls. I could tell it was the crank caller since he asked for her as Rose instead of Rose Mary. When I asked who was calling he got quite huffy and said he wasn't calling for me, he was calling for Rose. So I told him I'd get her and put the phone down. An hour later I could still hear his heavy breathing. But he finally gave up waiting and never called again.

We had a similar experience with prostitutes calling our room in Kazakstan claiming to be students studying English but that's another story and was more fun.

__________

Ed Angel

Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

1017 Sierra Pinon

Santa Fe, NM 87501
505-984-0136 (home) [hidden email]

505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel

On Mar 15, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote:

"Microsoft" is usually all it takes to get me to hang up as well.

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yes same here- I didn't give him the chance to get annywhere when could bairly say Microsoft I just hung up. That virln(Roach) is probably scurring around I doubt that the kind of person that goes to or is on the FRIAM list is his mark.

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Edward Angel <[hidden email]> wrote:

I got the call a couple of months ago. He tried to give the impression that he was working for Microsoft and they were doing the monitoring. He got very flustered when I pointed out that I had only Apple hardware and didn't run Windows. That didn't stop him from continuing his pitch. I finally had to shut him up by telling him what crook he was and hanging up. Actually I probably didn't shut him up but only moved him to the next one on his robodialer.

Ed

__________

Ed Angel

Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

1017 Sierra Pinon
Santa Fe, NM 87501
<a href="tel:505-984-0136" value="+15059840136" target="_blank">505-984-0136 (home) [hidden email]

<a href="tel:505-453-4944" value="+15054534944" target="_blank">505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel

On Mar 15, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:

Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?

I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error messages to the network and offering to help me correct them. (I have the number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it to.) The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to them, I assume. These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for.

Does anybody recognize this?

N

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
http://www.cusf.org

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Bruce Sherwood

Re: A new kind of pfishing?

A nice variant is this: Many years ago a friend reported getting a sales call about window blinds and told the salesman that oh yes she was very interested in this and please hold the line while she goes and makes some measurements of her windows......

Bruce

Sarbajit Roy (testing)

Re: A new kind of pfishing?

In reply to this post by Douglas Roberts-2

This scam has been around for years

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/18/phone-scam-india-call-centres

On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Douglas Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

I've gotten a few of those over the past few days from similarly accented people trying to tell me that my Windows machine was infected with a virus, but the callers' numbers were blocked.

No, I didn't bother to Linuxize them, although that would have been fun.

--Doug

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?

I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error messages to the network and offering to help me correct them. (I have the number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it to.) The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to them, I assume. These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for.

Does anybody recognize this?

N

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

http://www.cusf.org

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505-455-7333 - Office
505-672-8213 - Mobile

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Steve Smith

Re: A new kind of pfishing?

In reply to this post by Edward Angel

Ed-

Cutting in before Doug gets there...

It sounds like you get *all* the fun!

Maybe I should answer my phone even when I don't recognize the phone number... that is MY solution... it works amazingly well, though the false positives do irritate my friends and colleagues, though that is what voicemail, txt, e-mail, etc. are for.

My mother recently moved into an assisted living apartment and inherited the phone number that came with the apartment. The man who lived there before her apparently got scammed out of quite a bit of money (4 figures anyway) by phone and his number went out "on the wire" so she gets a *lot* of calls from these losers... she seems immune to most of it, but you never know when someone will get past her intuition... she's 86 and recently widowed. Her Scotch blood and Appalachian roots seem to be working for her so far. I don't understand why she answers the phone... a lifetime of habit I guess.

- Steve

Hanging up may not always be the best solution.

A while ago my wife was getting pornographic calls. I could tell it was the crank caller since he asked for her as Rose instead of Rose Mary. When I asked who was calling he got quite huffy and said he wasn't calling for me, he was calling for Rose. So I told him I'd get her and put the phone down. An hour later I could still hear his heavy breathing. But he finally gave up waiting and never called again.

We had a similar experience with prostitutes calling our room in Kazakstan claiming to be students studying English but that's another story and was more fun.

Ed

__________

Ed Angel

Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

1017 Sierra Pinon

Santa Fe, NM 87501
505-984-0136 (home) [hidden email]

505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel

On Mar 15, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote:

"Microsoft" is usually all it takes to get me to hang up as well.

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yes same here- I didn't give him the chance to get annywhere when could bairly say Microsoft I just hung up. That virln(Roach) is probably scurring around I doubt that the kind of person that goes to or is on the FRIAM list is his mark.

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Edward Angel <[hidden email]> wrote:

I got the call a couple of months ago. He tried to give the impression that he was working for Microsoft and they were doing the monitoring. He got very flustered when I pointed out that I had only Apple hardware and didn't run Windows. That didn't stop him from continuing his pitch. I finally had to shut him up by telling him what crook he was and hanging up. Actually I probably didn't shut him up but only moved him to the next one on his robodialer.

Ed

__________

Ed Angel

Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

1017 Sierra Pinon

Santa Fe, NM 87501
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:505-984-0136" value="+15059840136" target="_blank">505-984-0136 (home) [hidden email]

<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:505-453-4944" value="+15054534944" target="_blank">505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel

On Mar 15, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:

Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?

I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error messages to the network and offering to help me correct them. (I have the number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it to.) The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to them, I assume. These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for.

Does anybody recognize this?

N

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

http://www.cusf.org

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Steve Smith

Re: A new kind of pfishing?

In reply to this post by Sarbajit Roy (testing)

Sarbajit -

And here we thought it was you!

Pranking Nick is just mean, but maybe you could give Doug a ring and tell him you can fix his Bluetooth/WiFi problem if he just gives you his credit card and bank account numbers and the keys to his BMW Motorcycle...

We could all have a party and help you spend out his accounts ordering stuff online... Do you think he's gullible enough?

- Steve

This scam has been around for years

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/18/phone-scam-india-call-centres

On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Douglas Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

I've gotten a few of those over the past few days from similarly accented people trying to tell me that my Windows machine was infected with a virus, but the callers' numbers were blocked.

No, I didn't bother to Linuxize them, although that would have been fun.

--Doug

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?

I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error messages to the network and offering to help me correct them. (I have the number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it to.) The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to them, I assume. These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for.

Does anybody recognize this?

N

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

http://www.cusf.org

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Sarbajit Roy (testing)

Re: A new kind of pfishing?

Hi Steve

I must mention that these scamsters target victims aged 50+ presumably with little knowledge of computers and under-informed of human psychology. Probably picked the wrong bunch at FRIAM :-).

Doug (from what I observe) takes care of himself very well. I'll ask my friends to devise a special scam for him involving peacocks and an Android app.

Sarbajit

On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Steve Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

Sarbajit -

And here we thought it was you!

Pranking Nick is just mean, but maybe you could give Doug a ring and tell him you can fix his Bluetooth/WiFi problem if he just gives you his credit card and bank account numbers and the keys to his BMW Motorcycle...

We could all have a party and help you spend out his accounts ordering stuff online... Do you think he's gullible enough?

- Steve
This scam has been around for years

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/18/phone-scam-india-call-centres

On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Douglas Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

I've gotten a few of those over the past few days from similarly accented people trying to tell me that my Windows machine was infected with a virus, but the callers' numbers were blocked.

No, I didn't bother to Linuxize them, although that would have been fun.

--Doug

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?

I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error messages to the network and offering to help me correct them. (I have the number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it to.) The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to them, I assume. These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for.

Does anybody recognize this?

N

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

http://www.cusf.org

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Douglas Roberts-2

Re: A new kind of pfishing?

Throw in a US Navy Admiral (Retired) Sarbajit, and you have the perfect recipe!

(Old, inside joke, I'm afraid).

--Doug

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Sarbajit Roy <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Steve

I must mention that these scamsters target victims aged 50+ presumably with little knowledge of computers and under-informed of human psychology. Probably picked the wrong bunch at FRIAM :-).

Doug (from what I observe) takes care of himself very well. I'll ask my friends to devise a special scam for him involving peacocks and an Android app.

Sarbajit
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Steve Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
Sarbajit -

And here we thought it was you!

Pranking Nick is just mean, but maybe you could give Doug a ring and tell him you can fix his Bluetooth/WiFi problem if he just gives you his credit card and bank account numbers and the keys to his BMW Motorcycle...

We could all have a party and help you spend out his accounts ordering stuff online... Do you think he's gullible enough?

- Steve
This scam has been around for years

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/18/phone-scam-india-call-centres

On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Douglas Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

I've gotten a few of those over the past few days from similarly accented people trying to tell me that my Windows machine was infected with a virus, but the callers' numbers were blocked.

No, I didn't bother to Linuxize them, although that would have been fun.

--Doug

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?

I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error messages to the network and offering to help me correct them. (I have the number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it to.) The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to them, I assume. These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for.

Does anybody recognize this?

N

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

http://www.cusf.org

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Sarbajit Roy (testing)

Re: A new kind of pfishing?

Would that be Vice Admiral George Nanos of "cowboys" and "butthead" fame?

On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Douglas Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

Throw in a US Navy Admiral (Retired) Sarbajit, and you have the perfect recipe!

(Old, inside joke, I'm afraid).

--Doug
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Sarbajit Roy <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Steve

I must mention that these scamsters target victims aged 50+ presumably with little knowledge of computers and under-informed of human psychology. Probably picked the wrong bunch at FRIAM :-).

Doug (from what I observe) takes care of himself very well. I'll ask my friends to devise a special scam for him involving peacocks and an Android app.

Sarbajit
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Steve Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
Sarbajit -

And here we thought it was you!

Pranking Nick is just mean, but maybe you could give Doug a ring and tell him you can fix his Bluetooth/WiFi problem if he just gives you his credit card and bank account numbers and the keys to his BMW Motorcycle...

We could all have a party and help you spend out his accounts ordering stuff online... Do you think he's gullible enough?

- Steve
This scam has been around for years

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/18/phone-scam-india-call-centres

On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Douglas Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

I've gotten a few of those over the past few days from similarly accented people trying to tell me that my Windows machine was infected with a virus, but the callers' numbers were blocked.

No, I didn't bother to Linuxize them, although that would have been fun.

--Doug

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?

I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error messages to the network and offering to help me correct them. (I have the number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it to.) The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to them, I assume. These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for.

Does anybody recognize this?

N

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

http://www.cusf.org

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Douglas Roberts-2

Re: A new kind of pfishing?

The same, I'm afraid.

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Sarbajit Roy <[hidden email]> wrote:

Would that be Vice Admiral George Nanos of "cowboys" and "butthead" fame?
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Douglas Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:
Throw in a US Navy Admiral (Retired) Sarbajit, and you have the perfect recipe!

(Old, inside joke, I'm afraid).

--Doug
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Sarbajit Roy <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Steve

I must mention that these scamsters target victims aged 50+ presumably with little knowledge of computers and under-informed of human psychology. Probably picked the wrong bunch at FRIAM :-).

Doug (from what I observe) takes care of himself very well. I'll ask my friends to devise a special scam for him involving peacocks and an Android app.

Sarbajit
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Steve Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
Sarbajit -

And here we thought it was you!

Pranking Nick is just mean, but maybe you could give Doug a ring and tell him you can fix his Bluetooth/WiFi problem if he just gives you his credit card and bank account numbers and the keys to his BMW Motorcycle...

We could all have a party and help you spend out his accounts ordering stuff online... Do you think he's gullible enough?

- Steve
This scam has been around for years

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/18/phone-scam-india-call-centres

On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Douglas Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

I've gotten a few of those over the past few days from similarly accented people trying to tell me that my Windows machine was infected with a virus, but the callers' numbers were blocked.

No, I didn't bother to Linuxize them, although that would have been fun.

--Doug

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?

I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error messages to the network and offering to help me correct them. (I have the number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it to.) The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to them, I assume. These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for.

Does anybody recognize this?

N

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

http://www.cusf.org

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