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[632 Advisory] wordcrafting

Nick Thompson
David,

This will bother me for the rest of the week!  Best answer I can come up
with is "Liberal Arts".    It is embodied in our colleges and universities
as wholes, but no longer in any of its individuals.  Here is where St.
Johns is the exception, where the quality you aspire to name, is supposed
to be embodied in EACH member of that community, not just in the community
as an aggregate.  

I will forward this to my son at St Johns and see if he has a comment or
can send it to somebody who will.  Perhaps he will forward it to the
faculty at large, although I am not sure that bulk email is something they
do.  

Nick


> [Original Message]
> From: Prof David West <profwest at fastmail.fm>
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
<friam at redfish.com>; <advisory at santafecomplex.org>

> Date: 11/8/2007 9:56:00 AM
> Subject: [632 Advisory] wordcrafting
>
> Gentlefolk,
>
> I need a word.
>
>
> What would you call a discipline / degree / body of knowledge that
> incorporated in a holistic and deeply integrated way the following:
> art, humanities, anthropology, engineering, visualization, economics,
> imagination, science, craft, computation, math, innovation, creativity,
> entrepreneurship, business, change, transformation, transcendence, and
> enlightenment?
>
> And, what would you call someone that had achieved mastery in that
> discipline / degree / body of knowledge?
>
> Polymathics and Polymath come to mind, but Polymathics is incredibly
> ugly as a word.
>
> Nexialism and Nexialist are terms used by A.E. van Vogt in 1950s
> science-fiction novel titled Voyage of the Space Beagle (after the ship
> used by Charles Darwin in his travels).
>
> Ideas??
>
> dave west
>
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[632 Advisory] wordcrafting

Richard Lowenberg
To quote Gregory Bateson:
        "Towards an Ecology of Mind".
rl


On Thu, 8 Nov 2007, Nicholas Thompson wrote:

> David,
>
> This will bother me for the rest of the week!  Best answer I can come up
> with is "Liberal Arts".    It is embodied in our colleges and universities
> as wholes, but no longer in any of its individuals.  Here is where St.
> Johns is the exception, where the quality you aspire to name, is supposed
> to be embodied in EACH member of that community, not just in the community
> as an aggregate.
>
> I will forward this to my son at St Johns and see if he has a comment or
> can send it to somebody who will.  Perhaps he will forward it to the
> faculty at large, although I am not sure that bulk email is something they
> do.
>
> Nick
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Prof David West <profwest at fastmail.fm>
> > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> <friam at redfish.com>; <advisory at santafecomplex.org>
> > Date: 11/8/2007 9:56:00 AM
> > Subject: [632 Advisory] wordcrafting
> >
> > Gentlefolk,
> >
> > I need a word.
> >
> >
> > What would you call a discipline / degree / body of knowledge that
> > incorporated in a holistic and deeply integrated way the following:
> > art, humanities, anthropology, engineering, visualization, economics,
> > imagination, science, craft, computation, math, innovation, creativity,
> > entrepreneurship, business, change, transformation, transcendence, and
> > enlightenment?
> >
> > And, what would you call someone that had achieved mastery in that
> > discipline / degree / body of knowledge?
> >
> > Polymathics and Polymath come to mind, but Polymathics is incredibly
> > ugly as a word.
> >
> > Nexialism and Nexialist are terms used by A.E. van Vogt in 1950s
> > science-fiction novel titled Voyage of the Space Beagle (after the ship
> > used by Charles Darwin in his travels).
> >
> > Ideas??
> >
> > dave west
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Advisory mailing list
> > Advisory at santafecomplex.org
> > http://santafecomplex.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory_santafecomplex.org
>
>
>
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> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
>

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[632 Advisory] wordcrafting

Mikhail Gorelkin
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Hermann Hesse already created this title: "Magister Ludi" (Latin for "master of the game") in "The Glass Bead Game". --Mikhail
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Nicholas Thompson
  To: advisory at santafecomplex.org ; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
  Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 1:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [632 Advisory] wordcrafting


  David,

  This will bother me for the rest of the week!  Best answer I can come up
  with is "Liberal Arts".    It is embodied in our colleges and universities
  as wholes, but no longer in any of its individuals.  Here is where St.
  Johns is the exception, where the quality you aspire to name, is supposed
  to be embodied in EACH member of that community, not just in the community
  as an aggregate.  

  I will forward this to my son at St Johns and see if he has a comment or
  can send it to somebody who will.  Perhaps he will forward it to the
  faculty at large, although I am not sure that bulk email is something they
  do.  

  Nick


  > [Original Message]
  > From: Prof David West <profwest at fastmail.fm>
  > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
  <friam at redfish.com>; <advisory at santafecomplex.org>
  > Date: 11/8/2007 9:56:00 AM
  > Subject: [632 Advisory] wordcrafting
  >
  > Gentlefolk,
  >
  > I need a word.
  >
  >
  > What would you call a discipline / degree / body of knowledge that
  > incorporated in a holistic and deeply integrated way the following:
  > art, humanities, anthropology, engineering, visualization, economics,
  > imagination, science, craft, computation, math, innovation, creativity,
  > entrepreneurship, business, change, transformation, transcendence, and
  > enlightenment?
  >
  > And, what would you call someone that had achieved mastery in that
  > discipline / degree / body of knowledge?
  >
  > Polymathics and Polymath come to mind, but Polymathics is incredibly
  > ugly as a word.
  >
  > Nexialism and Nexialist are terms used by A.E. van Vogt in 1950s
  > science-fiction novel titled Voyage of the Space Beagle (after the ship
  > used by Charles Darwin in his travels).
  >
  > Ideas??
  >
  > dave west
  >
  > _______________________________________________
  > Advisory mailing list
  > Advisory at santafecomplex.org
  > http://santafecomplex.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory_santafecomplex.org



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[632 Advisory] wordcrafting

Robert J. Cordingley
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Dave,
The University of Texas at Austin's Liberal Arts school has "Plan 2"
which provides a multidisciplinary education from art, through
philosophy and science, etc..  If your BOK goes further you could call
it "Plan 3"?

Other more serious ideas: polytechnology, pantechnology, gnostology,
holistology and omnology.  There is a piece on Omnology by Bloom at
http://www.entelechyjournal.com/howardbloom.html perhaps it will
resonate (and I thought I'd come up with the word.)

I suggest an '-ology' because '-ologists' are easy to see.  There's
little sign of anyone using 'holistology', my second choice.  
"Omnologist"seems to come off the tongue fairly easily, though it lends
itself to: "What do you do for a living?"  "Om... I'm an Omnologist!"

Hope this helps.
Robert Cordingley

>> [Original Message]
>> From: Prof David West <profwest at fastmail.fm>
>> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
>>    
> <friam at redfish.com>; <advisory at santafecomplex.org>
>  
>> Date: 11/8/2007 9:56:00 AM
>> Subject: [632 Advisory] wordcrafting
>>
>> Gentlefolk,
>>
>> I need a word.
>>
>>
>> What would you call a discipline / degree / body of knowledge that
>> incorporated in a holistic and deeply integrated way the following:
>> art, humanities, anthropology, engineering, visualization, economics,
>> imagination, science, craft, computation, math, innovation, creativity,
>> entrepreneurship, business, change, transformation, transcendence, and
>> enlightenment?
>>
>> And, what would you call someone that had achieved mastery in that
>> discipline / degree / body of knowledge?
>>
>> Polymathics and Polymath come to mind, but Polymathics is incredibly
>> ugly as a word.
>>
>> Nexialism and Nexialist are terms used by A.E. van Vogt in 1950s
>> science-fiction novel titled Voyage of the Space Beagle (after the ship
>> used by Charles Darwin in his travels).
>>
>> Ideas??
>>
>> dave west
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Advisory mailing list
>> Advisory at santafecomplex.org
>> http://santafecomplex.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory_santafecomplex.org
>>    
>
>
>
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> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
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>  
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[632 Advisory] wordcrafting

Rikus
> What would you call a discipline / degree / body of knowledge
> that incorporated in a holistic and deeply integrated way the
> following: art, humanities, anthropology, engineering,
> visualization, economics, imagination, science, craft,
> computation, math, innovation, creativity, entrepreneurship,
> business, change, transformation, transcendence, and
> enlightenment?

Life?

> And, what would you call someone that had achieved mastery in
> that discipline / degree / body of knowledge?

A master?

Rikus


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[632 Advisory] wordcrafting

Phil Henshaw-2
>
> > What would you call a discipline / degree / body of knowledge that
> > incorporated in a holistic and deeply integrated way the
> > following: art, humanities, anthropology, engineering,
> visualization,
> > economics, imagination, science, craft, computation, math,
> innovation,
> > creativity, entrepreneurship, business, change, transformation,
> > transcendence, and enlightenment?
>
> Life?
Or, anyone's process of exploring life?

>
> > And, what would you call someone that had achieved mastery in that
> > discipline / degree / body of knowledge?
>
> A master?
Well, a stretch, but mastering a learning process could be anything from
just making the giant leap of beginning it, to realizing that exhausting
your search is probably an error...

phil
>
> Rikus
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