xcode

[Owen Densmore]

I've used eclipse for my main IDE for a while now, and used both  
netbeans and intelij IDEA in the past.

This article
http://thomas1111.wordpress.com/2010/01/18/installing-xcode-and-using-gcc-on-mac/
made me think a bit about xcode, after all its installed on my mac,  
and maybe its a Good Thing without my knowing about it.

One note I found included how to install python as well:
http://zovirl.com/2006/07/13/xcode-python/

So question: any of us using xcode?  Any comments on it?


     -- Owen



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[Bin Hu]

Hi Owen,

I tried Xcode a few years back when I was writing objective-c code for
Mac. At that time, I felt Xcode was the tool for writing Mac
applications only. I still tend to believe it today.

For any program that is not Mac-oriented, I would use an old fashion
text editor commonly found in Unix/Linux. The only exception is that I
use Eclipse for some Java programs.

Maybe this is personal preference: I really prefer a true text editor,
which can handle 95% of my types, than a fancy IDE.

Other comments?

Bin



On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Owen Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I've used eclipse for my main IDE for a while now, and used both netbeans
> and intelij IDEA in the past.
>
> This article
> http://thomas1111.wordpress.com/2010/01/18/installing-xcode-and-using-gcc-on-mac/
> made me think a bit about xcode, after all its installed on my mac, and
> maybe its a Good Thing without my knowing about it.
>
> One note I found included how to install python as well:
> http://zovirl.com/2006/07/13/xcode-python/
>
> So question: any of us using xcode?  Any comments on it?
>
>
>    -- Owen
>
>
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[glen e. p. ropella-2]

Bin Hu wrote circa 10-04-20 04:14 PM:
> I tried Xcode a few years back when I was writing objective-c code for
> Mac. At that time, I felt Xcode was the tool for writing Mac
> applications only. I still tend to believe it today.

This was my sense, as well.  "We" (one of my partners, actually)
developed a mac desktop and an iphone app and XCode seemed well
engineered for those apps.  But it was difficult for me to task switch
into working on those apps, I think primarily because XCode was so
peculiar coming from my usual emacs and netbeans IDEs.

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[Owen Densmore]

On Apr 20, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Bin Hu wrote:
> Hi Owen,

Hi!

> <snip>
> For any program that is not Mac-oriented, I would use an old fashion
> text editor commonly found in Unix/Linux. The only exception is that I
> use Eclipse for some Java programs.
>
> Maybe this is personal preference: I really prefer a true text editor,
> which can handle 95% of my types, than a fancy IDE.

I agree .. the learning curve, and constraints that an IDE impose can  
offset their use.  However, in the java case, the javadocs integration  
is great, as is code completion.  Helping manage library paths is also  
a plus.  Although I can grok Java's library installations and use,  
Python I find confusing.  Hard to believe for such a lovely and simple/
agile language!

TextMate on the Mac is sort of in between: its such a flexible editor  
that things like simple language aids are easily built in.  But  
definitely not to the point of code completion for library based APIs.

     -- Owen


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