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thompnickson2

wifi repeaters?!

Hi,

Does anybody have anything good to say about devices to extent wifi range in a house. The students sitting on the couch side by side taking on line courses is not going to work!

Nick

Nicholas Thompson

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Tom Johnson

Re: wifi repeaters?!

I am sold on mesh systems. If a small place, could do it for $200.

I like Eero.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 9:59 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

Does anybody have anything good to say about devices to extent wifi range in a house. The students sitting on the couch side by side taking on line courses is not going to work!

Nick

Nicholas Thompson
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Clark University
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Marcus G. Daniels

Re: wifi repeaters?!

Me too. Also they are nice for connecting desktops at random locations because they give ethernet drops where there is an access point, and you can keep adding access points.

From: Friam <[hidden email]> on behalf of Tom Johnson <[hidden email]>
Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 9:01 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] wifi repeaters?!

I am sold on mesh systems. If a small place, could do it for $200.

I like Eero.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 9:59 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

Does anybody have anything good to say about devices to extent wifi range in a house. The students sitting on the couch side by side taking on line courses is not going to work!

Nick

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

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Frank Wimberly-2

Re: wifi repeaters?!

In reply to this post by thompnickson2

There is only one couch in the house where wifi works??

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505 670-9918
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On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 9:59 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

Does anybody have anything good to say about devices to extent wifi range in a house. The students sitting on the couch side by side taking on line courses is not going to work!

Nick

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
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Carl Tollander

Re: wifi repeaters?!

In reply to this post by thompnickson2

I did some hunting a couple months back. The Netgear Orbi units looked pretty good. If one has the Comcast xfi modem they sell a pack of small plugin gadgets that are cheaper and very easy to configure.

Mesh is generally way better than the alternatives.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 21:59 <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

Does anybody have anything good to say about devices to extent wifi range in a house. The students sitting on the couch side by side taking on line courses is not going to work!

Nick

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
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Marcus G. Daniels

Re: wifi repeaters?!

I’ve got 3 Orbis. 400 Mbs wireless, and I actually get that reliably over AT&T fiber optic.

From: Friam <[hidden email]> on behalf of Carl Tollander <[hidden email]>
Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 9:45 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] wifi repeaters?!

Mesh is generally way better than the alternatives.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 21:59 <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

Does anybody have anything good to say about devices to extent wifi range in a house. The students sitting on the couch side by side taking on line courses is not going to work!

Nick

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

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thompnickson2

Re: wifi repeaters?!

In reply to this post by Frank Wimberly-2

Sorry, Frank, I was going for humor. Their’s is an open plan living room and dining and kitchen. 15 feet doesn’t get you into any of the bedrooms where the kids best should be studying. I don’t care what they say, 15 feet from the box is all one reliably gets.

Nick

Nicholas Thompson

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Clark University

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From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 10:16 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] wifi repeaters?!

There is only one couch in the house where wifi works??

---
Frank C. Wimberly
505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 9:59 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

Does anybody have anything good to say about devices to extent wifi range in a house. The students sitting on the couch side by side taking on line courses is not going to work!

Nick

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
[hidden email]
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

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Barry MacKichan

Re: wifi repeaters?!

In reply to this post by Tom Johnson

Another vote for Eero. Three units worked for me when in Santa Fe in a house with some interior adobe walls. Here in NC in a “stick house”, it is probably overkill but still nice.

The only downside that I know of for Eero is that it needs internet access for its configuration, so it’s not very useful if your internet is down.

—Barry

On 25 Mar 2020, at 0:00, Tom Johnson wrote:

I am sold on mesh systems. If a small place, could do it for $200.
I like Eero.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 9:59 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

Does anybody have anything good to say about devices to extent wifi range in a house. The students sitting on the couch side by side taking on line courses is not going to work!

Nick

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
[hidden email]
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

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Steve Smith

Re: wifi repeaters?!

In reply to this post by Marcus G. Daniels

I have a handful of MeshPotato s that I am currently not using. They are designed to be cheap, robust, and potentially solar-powered... they are now out-of-production and somewhat old but still viable tech.

Some of the places I was testing them, I replaced with powerline wifi extenders... to extend wifi among buildings on rural properties with common mains (farms)... For any more distributed home/homestead on the grid (or even a self-contained solar/110 homestead) this can be a good option.

On 3/24/20 10:11 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:

Me too. Also they are nice for connecting desktops at random locations because they give ethernet drops where there is an access point, and you can keep adding access points.

From: Friam [hidden email] on behalf of Tom Johnson [hidden email]
Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 9:01 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] wifi repeaters?!

I am sold on mesh systems. If a small place, could do it for $200.

I like Eero.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 9:59 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

Does anybody have anything good to say about devices to extent wifi range in a house. The students sitting on the couch side by side taking on line courses is not going to work!

Nick

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

[hidden email]

https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

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Gary Schiltz-4

Re: wifi repeaters?!

In reply to this post by thompnickson2

Traditionally, the best solution is to put an access point in several spots to provide coverage. Normally that requires ethernet cabling to be in place. Another solution is to use the electrical cabling in your house to carry the packets to other rooms, where you connect other repeaters. That can work, but not always. If you can't run cables, and there the ethernet over power solutions don't work, then mesh networks like has been discussed in this thread are very good. They are more expensive, but prices have come down a lot in the last year or so.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 10:59 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

Does anybody have anything good to say about devices to extent wifi range in a house. The students sitting on the couch side by side taking on line courses is not going to work!

Nick

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
[hidden email]
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

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Roger Critchlow-2

Re: wifi repeaters?!

Every time I've tried to improve my WiFi, I've ended up with just a new WiFi router that worked much better. If you can only find your current WiFi router for sale as used on the internet, it's probably well past time to replace it. They have really improved over the years.

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On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 1:44 PM Gary Schiltz <[hidden email]> wrote:

Traditionally, the best solution is to put an access point in several spots to provide coverage. Normally that requires ethernet cabling to be in place. Another solution is to use the electrical cabling in your house to carry the packets to other rooms, where you connect other repeaters. That can work, but not always. If you can't run cables, and there the ethernet over power solutions don't work, then mesh networks like has been discussed in this thread are very good. They are more expensive, but prices have come down a lot in the last year or so.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 10:59 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

Does anybody have anything good to say about devices to extent wifi range in a house. The students sitting on the couch side by side taking on line courses is not going to work!

Nick

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
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gepr

Re: wifi repeaters?!

👍

And if "they" are technically inclined, they can replace their firmware with something like https://dd-wrt.com/ and turn up the transmitter or configure it in several ways that may help.

On 3/25/20 11:35 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote:
> Every time I've tried to improve my WiFi, I've ended up with just a new WiFi router that worked much better. If you can only find your current WiFi router for sale as used on the internet, it's probably well past time to replace it. They have really improved over the years.

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Merle Lefkoff-2

Re: wifi repeaters?!

In reply to this post by Carl Tollander

Carl, I have Comcast. How do I make this happen? How can it help me? I'm facilitating on-line generative dialogue groups in several places around the world. Zoom and Google Meet so far.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 10:44 PM Carl Tollander <[hidden email]> wrote:

I did some hunting a couple months back. The Netgear Orbi units looked pretty good. If one has the Comcast xfi modem they sell a pack of small plugin gadgets that are cheaper and very easy to configure.

Mesh is generally way better than the alternatives.

C

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 21:59 <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

Does anybody have anything good to say about devices to extent wifi range in a house. The students sitting on the couch side by side taking on line courses is not going to work!

Nick

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
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Carl Tollander

Re: wifi repeaters?!

Xfi pods. Get em at Xfinity store on zafarano or order from xfinity.com. They just plug in the wall.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020, 13:04 Merle Lefkoff <[hidden email]> wrote:

Carl, I have Comcast. How do I make this happen? How can it help me? I'm facilitating on-line generative dialogue groups in several places around the world. Zoom and Google Meet so far.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 10:44 PM Carl Tollander <[hidden email]> wrote:
I did some hunting a couple months back. The Netgear Orbi units looked pretty good. If one has the Comcast xfi modem they sell a pack of small plugin gadgets that are cheaper and very easy to configure.

Mesh is generally way better than the alternatives.

C

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 21:59 <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

Does anybody have anything good to say about devices to extent wifi range in a house. The students sitting on the couch side by side taking on line courses is not going to work!

Nick

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
[hidden email]
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

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Russell Standish-2

Re: wifi repeaters?!

In reply to this post by Gary Schiltz-4

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 12:28:41PM -0500, Gary Schiltz wrote:
> Traditionally, the best solution is to put an access point in several spots to
> provide coverage. Normally that requires ethernet cabling to be in place.
> Another solution is to use the electrical cabling in your house to carry the
> packets to other rooms, where you connect other repeaters. That can work, but
> not always. If you can't run cables, and there the ethernet over power
> solutions don't work, then mesh networks like has been discussed in this thread
> are very good. They are more expensive, but prices have come down a lot in the
> last year or so.
>

There are also things called "wifi range extenders". These effectively
act as invisible extra access points that handle devices close by, and
fill out black spots. A lot of magic stuff such as handoff happens when a
mobile device changes location within the house. They'd implemented
around a mini linux computer. And quite inexpensive - around $30 in
local currency, somewhat less than a Raspberry Pi.

We've got one here to help broadcast netflix to our TV, as the TV is a
little far from our main Wifi access point.

Cheers

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Frank Wimberly-2

Re: wifi repeaters?!

We have such an extender in our guest house and it works seamlessly.

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505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020, 6:29 PM Russell Standish <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 12:28:41PM -0500, Gary Schiltz wrote:
> Traditionally, the best solution is to put an access point in several spots to
> provide coverage. Normally that requires ethernet cabling to be in place.
> Another solution is to use the electrical cabling in your house to carry the
> packets to other rooms, where you connect other repeaters. That can work, but
> not always. If you can't run cables, and there the ethernet over power
> solutions don't work, then mesh networks like has been discussed in this thread
> are very good. They are more expensive, but prices have come down a lot in the
> last year or so.
>

There are also things called "wifi range extenders". These effectively
act as invisible extra access points that handle devices close by, and
fill out black spots. A lot of magic stuff such as handoff happens when a
mobile device changes location within the house. They'd implemented
around a mini linux computer. And quite inexpensive - around $30 in
local currency, somewhat less than a Raspberry Pi.

We've got one here to help broadcast netflix to our TV, as the TV is a
little far from our main Wifi access point.

Cheers

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