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I just rang them - "oh yeah, we have tons of that stuff" so I'm off there
tomorrow.

Their website describes some of the weird and wonderful stuff they have -
there has to be a domestic use for a 6' dia x 20' long polished stainless
steel tube.

robert

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transformer (Black Hole)>...there has to be a domestic use for a 6' dia x
20' long polished stainless steel tube.

A vertical lap pool?

Frank
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Subject: [FRIAM] transformer (Black Hole)


I just rang them - "oh yeah, we have tons of that stuff" so I'm off there
tomorrow.
Their website describes some of the weird and wonderful stuff they have -
there has to be a domestic use for a 6' dia x 20' long polished stainless
steel tube.
robert



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1. beer vat
2. rain cistern
3. pneumatic pumpkin launcher
4. wind chime

transformer (Black Hole)>...there has to be a domestic use for a 6' dia x
20' long polished stainless steel tube.

A vertical lap pool?

Frank
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(cell)
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Santa Fe, NM 87505                  [hidden email]
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Holmes
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 4:46 PM
Subject: [FRIAM] transformer (Black Hole)


I just rang them - "oh yeah, we have tons of that stuff" so I'm off there
tomorrow.
Their website describes some of the weird and wonderful stuff they have -
there has to be a domestic use for a 6' dia x 20' long polished stainless
steel tube.
robert


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transformer (Black Hole)...or one heck of a directional Wifi antenna.
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Robert Holmes
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  To: [hidden email]
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  I just rang them - "oh yeah, we have tons of that stuff" so I'm off there
tomorrow.

  Their website describes some of the weird and wonderful stuff they have -
there has to be a domestic use for a 6' dia x 20' long polished stainless
steel tube.

  robert


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>>>3. pneumatic pumpkin launcher
It would need to be a damn big pumpkin...

>>>4. wind chime
One of those very very bass wind chimes no doubt (BTW - exactly what
frequency would it be?)







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> >> there has to be a domestic use for a 6' dia x 20' long polished
> >> stainless steel tube.
> >
> > 4. wind chime
>
>One of those very very bass wind chimes no doubt (BTW - exactly what
>frequency would it be?)

The fundamental frequency f = c/(2*L), where c = speed of sound in air ~ 300 m/sec, and L = length of the pipe = 6 m. So f ~ 25 Hz which is just barely within human hearing range.

-Sven-


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>One of those very very bass wind chimes no doubt (BTW - exactly what
>frequency would it be?)

The fundamental frequency f =3D c/(2*L), where c =3D speed of sound in ai=
r ~ 300
m/sec, and L =3D length of the pipe =3D 6 m. So f ~ 25 Hz which is just b=
arely
within human hearing range.

-Sven-

How does that compare to the Taos Hum?
http://www.earthpulse.com/science/taoshum.html
The initial investigation focused on ten hearers and determined certain k=
ey
facts surrounding the hum. It was persistent. It was heard by only a smal=
l
number of people. The sound was extremely low on the frequency scale =AD
between 30 and 80Hz. There was variation in how different hearers perceiv=
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the sound. Some heard a sound like the low rumbling of a truck while othe=
rs
heard a more steady, pulsing, yet still low sound. Interestingly, the
investigators learned that the sound was not limited to the area around
Taos, but was, in fact, heard at places all over the country and around t=
he
globe.


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Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 4:32 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [FRIAM] transformer (Black Hole)


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> >> there has to be a domestic use for a 6' dia x 20' long polished
> >> stainless steel tube.
> >
> > 4. wind chime
>
>One of those very very bass wind chimes no doubt (BTW - exactly what
>frequency would it be?)

The fundamental frequency f =3D c/(2*L), where c =3D speed of sound in ai=
r ~ 300
m/sec, and L =3D length of the pipe =3D 6 m. So f ~ 25 Hz which is just b=
arely
within human hearing range.

-Sven-

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Wind chimes don't always resonate at the fundamental frequency, often a=20=

multiple thereof.

Bruce

On Wednesday, May 21, 2003, at 06:11 PM, Edy Keeler wrote:

> >One of those very very bass wind chimes no doubt (BTW - exactly what
> >frequency would it be?)
>
> The fundamental frequency f =3D c/(2*L), where c =3D speed of sound in =
air=20
> ~ 300 m/sec, and L =3D length of the pipe =3D 6 m. So f ~ 25 Hz which =
is=20
> just barely within human hearing range.
>
> -Sven-
>
> How does that compare to the Taos Hum?
> http://www.earthpulse.com/science/taoshum.html
> The initial investigation focused on ten hearers and determined=20
> certain key facts surrounding the hum. It was persistent. It was heard=20=

> by only a small number of people. The sound was extremely low on the=20=

> frequency scale =AD between 30 and 80Hz. There was variation in how=20
> different hearers perceived the sound. Some heard a sound like the low=20=

> rumbling of a truck while others heard a more steady, pulsing, yet=20
> still low sound. Interestingly, the investigators learned that the=20
> sound was not limited to the area around Taos, but was, in fact, heard=20=

> at places all over the country and around the globe.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]On =
Behalf

> Of Sven Gato Redsun
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 4:32 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: RE: [FRIAM] transformer (Black Hole)
>
>
> ***=A0 May 23 meeting to be at Jane's Cafe=A0 ***
> ***=A0 map at http://www.redfish.com/friam=A0 ***
>
>
>
> > >> there has to be a domestic use for a 6' dia x 20' long polished
> > >> stainless steel tube.
> > >
> > > 4. wind chime
> >
> >One of those very very bass wind chimes no doubt (BTW - exactly what
> >frequency would it be?)
>
> The fundamental frequency f =3D c/(2*L), where c =3D speed of sound in =
air=20
> ~ 300 m/sec, and L =3D length of the pipe =3D 6 m. So f ~ 25 Hz which =
is=20
> just barely within human hearing range.
>
> -Sven-
>
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Wind chimes don't always resonate at the fundamental frequency, often
a multiple thereof.


Bruce


On Wednesday, May 21, 2003, at 06:11 PM, Edy Keeler wrote:


<excerpt><smaller>>One of those very very bass wind chimes no doubt
(BTW - exactly what

>frequency would it be?)


The fundamental frequency f =3D c/(2*L), where c =3D speed of sound in =
air
~ 300 m/sec, and L =3D length of the pipe =3D 6 m. So f ~ 25 Hz which is
just barely within human hearing range.


-Sven-


How does that compare to the Taos Hum?

=
<underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>http://www.earthpulse.com/s=
cience/taoshum.html

</color></underline>The initial investigation focused on ten hearers
and determined certain key facts surrounding the hum. It was
persistent. It was heard by only a small number of people. The sound
was extremely low on the frequency scale<bold>
<fontfamily><param>Lucida Grande</param>=AD</fontfamily> between 30 and
80Hz.</bold> There was variation in how different hearers perceived
the sound. Some heard a sound like the low rumbling of a truck while
others heard a more steady, pulsing, yet still low sound.
Interestingly, the investigators learned that the sound was not
limited to the area around Taos, but was, in fact, heard at places all
over the country and around the globe.



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Of Sven Gato Redsun

Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 4:32 PM

To: [hidden email]

Subject: RE: [FRIAM] transformer (Black Hole)



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> >> there has to be a domestic use for a 6' dia x 20' long polished

> >> stainless steel tube.

> >

> > 4. wind chime

>

>One of those very very bass wind chimes no doubt (BTW - exactly what

>frequency would it be?)


The fundamental frequency f =3D c/(2*L), where c =3D speed of sound in =
air
~ 300 m/sec, and L =3D length of the pipe =3D 6 m. So f ~ 25 Hz which is
just barely within human hearing range.


-Sven-


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So I guess the next question is, does the Black Hole have
more than one available?  Could we do something like
http://www.lhpo.org/lhpo_prod.html only with one pipe?

What is the gauge of the walls, anyhow?
  -----Original Message-----
  From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of
Bruce Sawhill
  Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 7:38 PM
  To: [hidden email]
  Cc: Bruce Sawhill
  Subject: Re: [FRIAM] transformer (Black Hole)


  Wind chimes don't always resonate at the fundamental frequency, often a
multiple thereof.

  Bruce

  On Wednesday, May 21, 2003, at 06:11 PM, Edy Keeler wrote:


    >One of those very very bass wind chimes no doubt (BTW - exactly what
    >frequency would it be?)

    The fundamental frequency f = c/(2*L), where c = speed of sound in air ~
300 m/sec, and L = length of the pipe = 6 m. So f ~ 25 Hz which is just
barely within human hearing range.

    -Sven-

    How does that compare to the Taos Hum?
    http://www.earthpulse.com/science/taoshum.html
    The initial investigation focused on ten hearers and determined certain
key facts surrounding the hum. It was persistent. It was heard by only a
small number of people. The sound was extremely low on the frequency scale ­
between 30 and 80Hz. There was variation in how different hearers perceived
the sound. Some heard a sound like the low rumbling of a truck while others
heard a more steady, pulsing, yet still low sound. Interestingly, the
investigators learned that the sound was not limited to the area around
Taos, but was, in fact, heard at places all over the country and around the
globe.


    -----Original Message-----
    From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf
    Of Sven Gato Redsun
    Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 4:32 PM
    To: [hidden email]
    Subject: RE: [FRIAM] transformer (Black Hole)


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    > >> there has to be a domestic use for a 6' dia x 20' long polished
    > >> stainless steel tube.
    > >
    > > 4. wind chime
    >
    >One of those very very bass wind chimes no doubt (BTW - exactly what
    >frequency would it be?)

    The fundamental frequency f = c/(2*L), where c = speed of sound in air ~
300 m/sec, and L = length of the pipe = 6 m. So f ~ 25 Hz which is just
barely within human hearing range.

    -Sven-

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  [mailto:[hidden email]]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Bruce=20
  Sawhill<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 21, 2003 7:38 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  [hidden email]<BR><B>Cc:</B> Bruce Sawhill<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[FRIAM]=20
  transformer (Black Hole)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Wind chimes don't always =
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    length of the pipe =3D 6 m. So f ~ 25 Hz which is just barely within =
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    learned that the sound was not limited to the area around Taos, but =
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    [hidden email]=20
    [<U><?color><?param =
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    Behalf<BR>Of Sven Gato Redsun<BR>Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 4:32=20
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    ***<BR><BR><BR><BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; there has to be a domestic use for =
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    &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; 4. wind chime<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;One of those very =
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    wind chimes no doubt (BTW - exactly what<BR>&gt;frequency would it=20
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    in air ~ 300 m/sec, and L =3D length of the pipe =3D 6 m. So f ~ 25 =
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Bruce

On Wednesday, May 21, 2003, at 09:37 PM, Carl Tollander wrote:

> So I guess the next question is, does the Black Hole have
> more than one available?=A0Could we do something like=20
> http://www.lhpo.org/lhpo_prod.html=A0only with one pipe?
> =A0
> What is the gauge of the walls, anyhow?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]On=20
> Behalf Of Bruce Sawhill
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 7:38 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: Bruce Sawhill
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] transformer (Black Hole)
>
> Wind chimes don't always resonate at the fundamental frequency, often=20=

> a multiple thereof.
>
> Bruce
>
> On Wednesday, May 21, 2003, at 06:11 PM, Edy Keeler wrote:
>
> >One of those very very bass wind chimes no doubt (BTW - exactly what
> >frequency would it be?)
>
> The fundamental frequency f =3D c/(2*L), where c =3D speed of sound in =
air=20
> ~ 300 m/sec, and L =3D length of the pipe =3D 6 m. So f ~ 25 Hz which =
is=20
> just barely within human hearing range.
>
> -Sven-
>
> How does that compare to the Taos Hum?
> http://www.earthpulse.com/science/taoshum.html
> The initial investigation focused on ten hearers and determined=20
> certain key facts surrounding the hum. It was persistent. It was heard=20=

> by only a small number of people. The sound was extremely low on the=20=

> frequency scale =AD between 30 and 80Hz. There was variation in how=20
> different hearers perceived the sound. Some heard a sound like the low=20=

> rumbling of a truck while others heard a more steady, pulsing, yet=20
> still low sound. Interestingly, the investigators learned that the=20
> sound was not limited to the area around Taos, but was, in fact, heard=20=

> at places all over the country and around the globe.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]On =
Behalf

> Of Sven Gato Redsun
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 4:32 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: RE: [FRIAM] transformer (Black Hole)
>
>
> ***=A0 May 23 meeting to be at Jane's Cafe=A0 ***
> ***=A0 map at http://www.redfish.com/friam=A0 ***
>
>
>
> > >> there has to be a domestic use for a 6' dia x 20' long polished
> > >> stainless steel tube.
> > >
> > > 4. wind chime
> >
> >One of those very very bass wind chimes no doubt (BTW - exactly what
> >frequency would it be?)
>
> The fundamental frequency f =3D c/(2*L), where c =3D speed of sound in =
air=20
> ~ 300 m/sec, and L =3D length of the pipe =3D 6 m. So f ~ 25 Hz which =
is=20
> just barely within human hearing range.
>
> -Sven-
>
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On Wednesday, May 21, 2003, at 09:37 PM, Carl Tollander wrote:


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<fontfamily><param>Tahoma</param><smaller>-----Original Message-----

<bold>From:</bold> [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]]<bold>On Behalf Of </bold>Bruce Sawhill

<bold>Sent:</bold> Wednesday, May 21, 2003 7:38 PM

<bold>To:</bold> [hidden email]

<bold>Cc:</bold> Bruce Sawhill

<bold>Subject:</bold> Re: [FRIAM] transformer (Black Hole)


</smaller></fontfamily>Wind chimes don't always resonate at the
fundamental frequency, often a multiple thereof.


Bruce


On Wednesday, May 21, 2003, at 06:11 PM, Edy Keeler wrote:


>One of those very very bass wind chimes no doubt (BTW - exactly what

>frequency would it be?)


The fundamental frequency f =3D c/(2*L), where c =3D speed of sound in =
air
~ 300 m/sec, and L =3D length of the pipe =3D 6 m. So f ~ 25 Hz which is
just barely within human hearing range.


-Sven-


How does that compare to the Taos Hum?

<underline>http://www.earthpulse.com/science/taoshum.html

</underline>The initial investigation focused on ten hearers and
determined certain key facts surrounding the hum. It was persistent.
It was heard by only a small number of people. The sound was extremely
low on the frequency scale<bold>
</bold><fontfamily><param>Tahoma</param>=AD</fontfamily><bold> between
30 and 80Hz.</bold> There was variation in how different hearers
perceived the sound. Some heard a sound like the low rumbling of a
truck while others heard a more steady, pulsing, yet still low sound.
Interestingly, the investigators learned that the sound was not
limited to the area around Taos, but was, in fact, heard at places all
over the country and around the globe.



-----Original Message-----

From: [hidden email]
[<underline>mailto:[hidden email]</underline>]On Behalf

Of Sven Gato Redsun

Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 4:32 PM

To: [hidden email]

Subject: RE: [FRIAM] transformer (Black Hole)



***=A0 May 23 meeting to be at Jane's Cafe=A0 ***

***=A0 map at <underline>http://www.redfish.com/friam</underline>=A0 ***




> >> there has to be a domestic use for a 6' dia x 20' long polished

> >> stainless steel tube.

> >

> > 4. wind chime

>

>One of those very very bass wind chimes no doubt (BTW - exactly what

>frequency would it be?)


The fundamental frequency f =3D c/(2*L), where c =3D speed of sound in =
air
~ 300 m/sec, and L =3D length of the pipe =3D 6 m. So f ~ 25 Hz which is
just barely within human hearing range.


-Sven-


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