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Replica wormholes and the black hole interior
https://arxiv.org/abs/1911.11977

Replica Wormholes and the Entropy of Hawking Radiation
https://arxiv.org/abs/1911.12333

Don't I pay y'all to keep me up-to-date on physics?  What the hell am I paying you for? 8^D

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Me keep you to date on anything? Good lord. I''m sorry Glen I didn't realize part of my job description as slacker was have any idea what's going on. Although I did let you know about comment something or other.

So if I am translating right we can get a rough idea of what the inside of a singularity does to stuff? I thought it more or less squarshe what ever gets close into something like a single atom going in, then shouts that atom out something close or faster than the speed of light. Which causes people that worry about these things to stay away at night.

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 9:11 AM ∄ uǝlƃ <[hidden email]> wrote:
Replica wormholes and the black hole interior
https://arxiv.org/abs/1911.11977

Replica Wormholes and the Entropy of Hawking Radiation
https://arxiv.org/abs/1911.12333

Don't I pay y'all to keep me up-to-date on physics?  What the hell am I paying you for? 8^D

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Ha! Yes, it is *your* job to inform me of things. Although it's obviously a joke, there is a bit of a social contract of sorts laying around somewhere on the floor, forgotten and trampled in our fiat currency based economy. You pay with insights into a couple of cliques to which I have little access and I VERY much appreciate it.

I can't read these papers any better than you can. But my sense is that we've long wondered whether black holes dissipate/destroy information. Hawking radiation seems to suggest they do. A richly organized planet, for example, gets sucked in and all that organization is lost when the black hole evaporates. So, these guys came up with a way that information might be a) preserved through the evaporation and b) maybe give a way to compute over whatever happened to fall in.

People who actually know what they're talking about will have to chime in for anything better than my mangling.

In other black hole news, this happened:

GW190814: Gravitational Waves from the Coalescence of a 23 Solar Mass Black Hole with a 2.6 Solar Mass Compact Object
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/2041-8213/ab960f

On 7/13/20 8:37 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote:

> Me keep you to date on anything? Good lord. I''m sorry Glen I didn't realize part of my job description as slacker was have any idea what's going on. Although I did let you know about comment something or other.
>
> So if I am translating right we can get a rough idea of what the inside of a singularity does to stuff? I thought it more or less squarshe what ever gets close into something like a single atom going in, then shouts that atom out something close or faster than the speed of light. Which causes people that worry about these things to stay away at night.
>
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 9:11 AM ∄ uǝlƃ <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>     Replica wormholes and the black hole interior
>     https://arxiv.org/abs/1911.11977
>
>     Replica Wormholes and the Entropy of Hawking Radiation
>     https://arxiv.org/abs/1911.12333


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Thanks for that explication, Glen.  

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Ha! Yes, it is *your* job to inform me of things. Although it's obviously a joke, there is a bit of a social contract of sorts laying around somewhere on the floor, forgotten and trampled in our fiat currency based economy. You pay with insights into a couple of cliques to which I have little access and I VERY much appreciate it.

I can't read these papers any better than you can. But my sense is that we've long wondered whether black holes dissipate/destroy information. Hawking radiation seems to suggest they do. A richly organized planet, for example, gets sucked in and all that organization is lost when the black hole evaporates. So, these guys came up with a way that information might be a) preserved through the evaporation and b) maybe give a way to compute over whatever happened to fall in.

People who actually know what they're talking about will have to chime in for anything better than my mangling.

In other black hole news, this happened:

GW190814: Gravitational Waves from the Coalescence of a 23 Solar Mass Black Hole with a 2.6 Solar Mass Compact Object https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/2041-8213/ab960f

On 7/13/20 8:37 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote:

> Me keep you to date on anything? Good lord. I''m sorry Glen I didn't realize part of my job description as slacker was have any idea what's going on. Although I did let you know about comment something or other.
>
> So if I am translating right we can get a rough idea of what the inside of a singularity does to stuff? I thought it more or less squarshe what ever gets close into something like a single atom going in, then shouts that atom out something close or faster than the speed of light. Which causes people that worry about these things to stay away at night.
>
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 9:11 AM ∄ uǝlƃ <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>     Replica wormholes and the black hole interior
>     https://arxiv.org/abs/1911.11977
>
>     Replica Wormholes and the Entropy of Hawking Radiation
>     https://arxiv.org/abs/1911.12333


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