The main alarming thing, I guess, is that there is a large part of the world that is more easily motivated than me. I mean, it seems kind of boring to sort through all that. Impressive in sort of an autistic savant sort of way. I wonder
if they were paid well by U.S. standards.
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pwntastic, even.
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Yes, it sounds like they were methodical and patient. Impressive work.
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Well, it's one thing to simply screw up a dependency. Any programmer whose participated in a large project has done that at one point or another. But the interesting quote is this:
"Multiple trojanzied updates were digitally signed from March - May 2020 and posted to the SolarWinds updates website, ..."
They were digitally signed. Either they were legitimately signed and the vector is the typical one (humans [ptouie]) or the bad actor (not necessarily human) harvested a secret key and illegitimately signed them. And that's just the signing part. They also had to *post* them, which may well be the easier part. But it still had to be done.
How did they 1) sign the packages and 2) post the packages?
On 12/15/20 12:23 PM, Prof David West wrote:
> Web-based (most software) systems are a complicated Jenga tower of
> dependencies, each one of which provides an access point for
> introducing malware, trojans, viruses, etc. The story of Azer Koçulu
> and how his removal of eight lines of code (left-pad) brought down
> major Web actors and sites
>
>
> https://qz.com/646467/how-one-programmer-broke-the-internet-by-deletin
> g-a-tiny-piece-of-code/
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