Colleaugues,
There are many of us long in the tooth
on this list, and I think we should adopt some best practices
lest the intellectual life of the list become drowned in
laments about lumbago. In retrospect, I wish I had informed
one of you privately, asked that person to briefly inform the
attendees when I went missing at vFriam, and to be a point
person to any who would persue the matter further.
I tried, unsuccessfully, to bridge to
the less personal topic to Bonnett's Syndrome, which as Frank
knew well, presented some problems to me philosophically.
Some of you -- perhaps many -- are familiar with psychodelic
experiences and all of you presumably with dreaming. The
enormous inventiveness and creativity of these experiences,
their complex structures, and blooming buzzing confusions,
their wildly improbable transitions, are a challenge to any
poor monist. Where the hell does the information come from?
It seems to me that my experience is but
a flea on the behemoth of my brain. I am not inclined to go
digging in there, but I can see why some of you are.
Nick
Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and
Psychology
Clark University
[hidden email]
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
-----Original Message-----
From: Friam [hidden email] On Behalf Of
u?l? ???
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 10:20 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Recovery
Nicely circular! You don't have to
know/believe the meaning of your words, for those words to
have meaning. I'm particularly fond of how abusers will say
something abhorrent, then act all surprised when victims take
offense. The abuser often takes the stance that they were
simply joking and the snowflake should grow a thicker skin.
I'm as guilty as the rest.
On 12/8/20 8:15 AM, Marcus Daniels
wrote:
> I was kidding, of course..
believing the topic to be devoid of meaning, and so more
absurd than abusive.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Friam <[hidden email]>
On Behalf Of u?l? ???
> Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020
8:09 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Nick's
Recovery
>
> It's important, even/especially for
long-term partners, to reflect on possibly abusive habits.
Even if the abused and the abuser *agree* that the habit isn't
intentional abuse, an outsider will often *rightly* identify
the habit as abusive.
>
> On 12/7/20 6:23 PM, Frank Wimberly
wrote:
>> If you agree that was mean
please accept my sincere apologies. I am hoping that you
didn't find it so. Marcus hasn't been privy to the hundreds
of frank, sometimes humorous, in-person exchanges between us
over the last 15+ years and I meant it in that spirit.
--
↙↙↙ uǝlƃ
- .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ...
-..-. .... . .-. .
FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6
bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/
FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/