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Marcus G. Daniels on
Dec 08, 2020; 6:12pm
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/Fwd-Arriving-in-the-US-from-Australia-during-Covid-was-like-walking-through-the-looking-glass-tp7599788p7599816.html
I doubt that the "managerial" part of class "professional managerial-class" in his description of liberals is actually accurate. It is just a rhetorical device to suggest "Those [unproductive] people who would presume to tell us what to do." How about replacing "professional managerial-class" with "people that have learned to think"?
And the whole article suggests that those liberals that are not of the populist left variety are somehow selling out or misrepresenting a canonical identity. I think it is correct to say there *are* a lot of liberals, in the classic sense, who think freedom should be increased for everyone and that ideas about governance should be debated on merit. These people (like me) may not be of the populist left type at all.
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Unfortunately, it's not merely snark that makes the essay suspect. I was down with it as a nice political rant *until* he described the circumstances around Reinoehl. As far as I know, it's an investigative QUESTION whether or not Reinoehl was not only armed, but pointed his gun at the cops. I'm relatively convinced he *was* armed, which is directly contradicted by Hedges. My guess is he did not brandish his gun at police. How much effort would it have been to insert a qualifying clause like "police claim he was armed" or "witnesses claim he was unarmed"?
Regardless, people in glass houses should not throw stones, eh? Hedges' smudging of the facts around that make me suspicious of all the other facts he asserts, as well as the values within the rant.
On 12/8/20 8:34 AM, Steve Smith wrote:
> Ioffer this with a grain of capsaicin-salt to rub in the wound of our modern existential dilemma: meaning that what with Chris Hedges' familiar depressing snark, not everyone might be able to afford to read the following... Reader Beware:
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> the Collective Suicide of the Liberal Class
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> I find it rather sobering and something worth studying as the raging
> voice of the Whitelash Evangelical Right returns to an angry grumble... "we the woke/enlightened/etc" need to police our own bought-out corruption in the same way many of us stood back and marveled that nobody curbed the worst excesses of (for example) Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld and then more transparently Trump et-al.
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> I don't subscribe to the full snark of Hedges, but that doesn't mean he is wrong (just snarky?). I'd be just as happy to let those who eagerly invited Biden/Harris into the White House revel in the pushing back of the Authoritarian Right before I started trying to kick the feet out from under the (comparatively benign?) newcomers, but then I'm not Chris Hedges.
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