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Re: Political compass teest

Posted by Steve Smith on Oct 11, 2020; 1:32am
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I don't know how good this media-bias chart is, but I find it interesting, if not an actual meaningful artifact that there is a bit of a gap on the right side of the chart between a "little Right" and "a little Unreliable" to "very Right and Unreliable".    The left seems to be more of a continuum.   With "all sources" and "all articles" turned on I found an interesting gestalt.    I have some beef with the way they characterize Left/Right and Reliable/Unreliable and the way some outlets are rated, but I'm (mostly) trusting that they have a methodology that is at least transparent if not one I fully agree with.   But I haven't bothered to drill down much.

https://www.adfontesmedia.com/interactive-media-bias-chart-2/

On 10/10/20 7:09 PM, Steve Smith wrote:


I'm clocking in at 7 to left and 6 to the anarchistic (down), but find this kind of "test" is prone to conflating things I don't like to conflate.   Even Myers-Briggs with 4 and Enneagrams with 7? have too much of that going on IMO.  

I also don't think this is calibrated well, nor is it necessarily a linear metric.   Not trying to dismiss or abuse it, just noting that it all deserves some normalization.

I also find that these fit my *personal preferences* for how *I* want to live, not necessarily my preferences for how *everyone else* should live.   I know a LOT of people who feel a lot safer if they in an authoritarian matrix...  it gives them some kind of security to have a person, a party, an ideology to defer to.   I also prefer to be a lot more generous with others than I think a lot of people naturally do (and more than I once did myself)...  it helps if I know them or at least have met them in person, but I'm not particularly against a whole world full of people who are getting their needs met, either through enlightened, individual self-actualization or participation in a somewhat more herd/pack/tribe/hive model for meeting those needs.   My inner-complexicist gives extra points for a spectrum of diversity and scale... rugged anarcho-primitivists all the way to near-hive-like naked-mole-rat communes.   Though I suppose I'd rather have a beer (mead brewed in a hole in a rock?) with the former than the latter.

If I had a stronger inner-authoritarian I would probably contradictorally dictate to all that they must choose an entirely anarchistic life which was simultaneously also extremely generous and accepting of others... 

I also wonder how most of us would clock in if/when/as we had less privilege... it might be possible that the privilege of being a member of the first world, most of us male, most of us nominally "white".   We might find that if we got caught more often between push and shove, we might seek a more authoritarian matrix where nobody else could force their personal will on us because the collective/governance will was too strong/rigid to allow for it?  We also might find that if we felt like we lived in a world of true scarcity, we might not be as eager to share... we might be a little more greedy (or more aptly, desperate?)...  

- Steve

Well some of you only seem to be -4.   At least I’m below -6 on both.

 

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Do we all agree at an insanely high level?  Then wtf have we been arguing about all these years.  Let’s wait until Glen and Dave take the test before we bury all our hatchets.

 

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I was pretty much dead center in the lower left quadrant, which was surprising to me. I would have thought I would be in the middle of the whole graph.

 

On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 4:52 PM George Duncan <[hidden email]> wrote:

Jon, I took it. I'm barely left on economics and strongly libertarian on social issues

 

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On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 3:22 PM jon zingale <[hidden email]> wrote:

I just took the political compass test and surprise surprise, I am a
left-libertarian.

Take the test here if you are interested:
https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

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