Re: Don't take your guns (or ammo) to town...

Posted by Frank Wimberly-2 on Sep 16, 2020; 8:30pm
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I inherited or received as gifts six firearms (rifles and pistols) from the previous generation of my family.  They were ranchers, farmers, or railroad workers at various times in their lives.  I would be happy to sell the whole lot.  It may be the case that a sale of any of them would have to be done in connection with an investigation of the buyer's possible criminal background.  Does anyone know?  I can call the police if a buyer appears.  They are all now in a very secure safe since I live with a young boy with an intense interest in guns and combat.  He watches videos made by high school and college students and plays video games almost all of which have combat modes.  I wishi it were possible to assess the association of such games and videos with violent criminal activity later in life.  If that were possible would it affect their availability?

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 1:48 PM Marcus Daniels <[hidden email]> wrote:

I think it probably depends on the time horizon.   While the social wound is healing it probably helps the authoritarians, in the long run there is memory.   Counting on empathy at all seems pretty iffy to me.   It depends where one sits in the socio-economic scheme of things and how you see the future.    I would just replace the your recommendation of group-self-policing with self-modulating.   Invoke chaos when chaos will be untenable to stop by force -- when it is in fact terrifying to those in power to have it continue.   

It definitely makes me think every time I drive by the local hardware store and still see it boarded up with plywood -- the plywood now covered with graffiti.  It makes me speculate about the guilty conscience of the owners, actually.   The movie theater across the street put up a Black Lives Matter sign on the marquee, and nothing happened to them.

This is reptile brain stuff, but I think it has an impact.
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I can't find it now. But some outlet argued that state-sponsored violence positively reinforced empathy for the victim and negatively reinforced empathy for the police and state. And riot-violence positively reinforced empathy for the police and state and negatively reinforced opinions of the rioters. I don't believe it (yet) because it makes too much *sense* to be an actual result. Sounds like rationalization or confirmation bias.

But if it's true, then riots do work ... to bolster a fascist state. Rioters who call themselves "anarchists" are either tools of the fascists or just too stupid to understand what they're doing. Actual anarchists would not riot.

On 9/16/20 12:17 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> In my neighborhood somewhat hijacked a LED street sign to say "Riot's work".   If it is just the 2nd amendment types barging into the capitols with their guns, then the danger will be perceived as one-sided.

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