Frank -
I see your case for the Constitution-as-superego. I guess I was thinking more in the social-cultural sense than the political. When we were a predominantly religious (e.g. Christian) culture, perhaps it was the various "Good Books" and the church leadership(s)... Priests/Pastors/Rabbis/Imams and such?
In spite of *many* giving lip service both to Constitution and
Good Books and 10point Tablets, and Golden Rules, it feels like
the true operating principles are at least similarly NeoDarwinism
(of which I think Stephen and Dave have both spoken against) and
NeoLIberalism (which many speak against, notably Glen here I
think) and .
But these are more like abstractions and institutions rather than dynamic-coherence-maintaining processes which is how I apprehend the id, ego, superego to be? While the Constitution is nominally a "living document" (with amendments allowed)... the Good Book(s) are generally not allowed to be revised (albeit continued revelations seem to be common such as via Joseph Smith, David Karesh, a multitude of Yogis, etc.) I suppose that in some sense these artifacts encode/reflect the superego, I'm maybe looking for something more "organic". Any current existing *governing body* would seem to be a somewhat more mutable super-ego, and the pop-culture "equivalent" might be what?
- Steve
p.s. do a Google search of "superego", Steve.
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On Sat, Sep 5, 2020, 7:12 PM Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:
Well, you could say that the Constitution is a kind of superego. It's interesting that Trump resents the ways in which it constrains him. He tries to get around it with surprising success thanks to sycophants like Barr et al.
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Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505
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Santa Fe, NM
On Sat, Sep 5, 2020, 7:04 PM Steve Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
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And that trait ingratiates with those amongst us who have base impulses for which we fear we might be shamed.
And that includes everyone. But then most of us have superegos that constrain us. Trump less so.Ah, but HIS is a SuperDuperEgo... just ask him, he'll tell ya!
I don't know what your stake (or dog in the fight or ... pick a metaphor) is regarding collective consciousness/awareness/intelligence/wisdom/action in the abstract but it seems your background would support having an opinion or more to the point a thought-through-thought or two on the topic.
If there are suitable parallels between individual consciousness and collective versions of it, what would be the superego of a culture, people, nation-state, etc.?
- Steve
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