Re: Causation, Prediction, Search on Academia

Posted by Frank Wimberly-2 on Aug 25, 2020; 8:52pm
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/no-subject-tp7598498p7598509.html

Madelyn is Clark's daughter and was a little girl when I knew her.  The CMU people and the UCLA people (Pearl et al.  He Is the father of  Daniel Pearl) have long cooperated.

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020, 2:27 PM Steve Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

Frank -

https://www.academia.edu/keypass/cHFjczFFMmZHUDF4em04U0hXMkdDL1IyRmRKRmI4c3VYbWFHY2crL1NxOD0tLW1jS1RtUi9EU0oySmtEck9FeEJCWnc9PQ==--9fbb49188f8eb90cc24a1781a1c49671222e77dd/t/ewjc6-N3UnAUt-baBacR/resource/work/3135365/Automated_search_for_causal_relations_Theory_and_practice?email_work_card=title

I hope the above link works for people who aren't Academia members.

I am able to read it online as a non-member but not able to "download".

Multiple times I have mentioned the book "Causation, Prediction, and Search" by my colleagues Spirtes, Glymour, and Scheines.  I understand that the prospect of reading a long book can be daunting.  Glen, in particular, has expressed his preference for articles.  I just skimmed the above paper and realized that it gives an excellent and complete overview of the book.  One of the themes is "sometimes correlation is causation." 

I did not take this area of work at all seriously until maybe a year ago...   and I appreciate this link as a "smaller bite" to take than the whole book you referenced before.

Almost as an aside, I looked for some kind of contrast between this effort and that of Judea Pearl, and was surprised by this co-authorship: https://www.amazon.com/s?i=stripbooks&rh=p_27%3AMadelyn+Glymour&s=relevancerank&text=Madelyn+Glymour&ref=dp_byline_sr_book_2

It seems Madelyn might be Clarke's (grand?)daughter and quite the polymath herself, having won a "Screenwriter" contest?

I *do* see that Glymour's book publications on the topic of Causal predate that of Pearls by a bit... it seems like Pearl has obtained the lion's share of public attention for his work?   I'm not sure any of this matters... but it fascinated me and I will now try to take a big bite out of the paper you just referenced...

- Steve

Frank

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