Re: viral dose ∝ symptom severity
Posted by Prof David West on Aug 19, 2020; 6:17pm
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/viral-dose-symptom-severity-tp7598365p7598370.html
Nick and all,
I know my employment situation has been raised on the list and at vFRIAM. I know that several of you have expressed a willingness to explore alternatives. I really, really, appreciate it.
Unfortunately for me, I seem to be unemployable in my former profession. I am not technical enough to get past HR, I do have a reputation as a bit of extreme contrarian when it comes to Software Engineering, Scrum (really hate it), Lean, and all but the XP form of Agile. Plus, I am old. (I had a job offer at Spotify, until the team I was to work with — 3 women and one man, all in early to mid-twenties — met me in a video interview. You could see the look on their faces and know it was all over in less than ten seconds.)
I attached the resume to illustrate the problem. I would have been perfect at the job Frank recommended and have made it to a video interview, but will be surprised, from correspondence with them, if it goes further.
I keep trying, and your well wishes are truly appreciated.
davew
On Wed, Aug 19, 2020, at 11:31 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
> ALL OF IT!!!!
>
> Nicholas Thompson
> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
> Clark University
> [hidden email]
> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Steve Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 10:09 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] viral dose ∝ symptom severity
>
>
> > Aw crap, people. Can't we get Dave out of there!!!!!????
>
> I think he LIKES it there? (bunker in UT)
>
> Or do you mean inside a mask behind plexiglass telling people they cant
> refill their own cups or slop their own mustard (whilst winking)?
>
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > Nicholas Thompson
> > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University
> > [hidden email] https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Prof David West
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 9:54 AM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] viral dose ∝ symptom severity
> >
> > Anecdotal means nothing.
> >
> > Kane County, where I live, recorded its first COVID death last week — 84 year old woman who had been hospitalized prior, with "multiple contributing health issues."
> >
> > Working in the store, I see a couple of thousand people every day. Weekdays, with mostly locals, 80% wear masks. Weekends and holidays 50%+ tourists, mask rate drops to maybe 60%. Interestingly, 80-90 percent of those not wearing masks are the tourists - a large majority of whom are from California and Nevada.Most locals not wearing masks are ranchers and the coal miners - people working outside all day.
> >
> > This week was bow hunting season, and close to zero percent of hunters came in wearing masks. Camo, yes, masks, no.
> >
> > The store rescinded its "no refills" policy this week. And next week is allowing people to put their own condiments, from bulk containers of sliced tomatoes, onions, lettuce, sauce - on their burgers.
> >
> > Employees continue to wear masks except when behind plexiglass at cash register.
> >
> > davew
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 19, 2020, at 9:32 AM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote:
> >> Cloth masks do protect the wearer – breathing in less coronavirus
> >> means you get less sick
> >> https://theconversation.com/cloth-masks-do-protect-the-wearer-breathi
> >> n
> >> g-in-less-coronavirus-means-you-get-less-sick-143726
> >>
> >> And here's her paper in J Gen Intern Med:
> >>
> >> Masks Do More Than Protect Others During COVID-19: Reducing the
> >> Inoculum of SARS-CoV-2 to Protect the Wearer
> >> https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs11606-020-06067-8
> >>
> >> Sooooo, if the right-wingers would simply wear a damned mask, their
> >> open-up and herd immunity arguments would be at least somewhat
> >> defensible ... getting out, getting infected, *with* masks as a way
> >> to increase our collective bio-defense, relatively safely.
> >>
> >> --
> >> ↙↙↙ uǝlƃ
> >>
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Nick and all,
I know my employment situation has been raised on the list and at vFRIAM. I know that several of you have expressed a willingness to explore alternatives. I really, really, appreciate it.
Unfortunately for me, I seem to be unemployable in my former profession. I am not technical enough to get past HR, I do have a reputation as a bit of extreme contrarian when it comes to Software Engineering, Scrum (really hate it), Lean, and all but the XP form of Agile. Plus, I am old. (I had a job offer at Spotify, until the team I was to work with — 3 women and one man, all in early to mid-twenties — met me in a video interview. You could see the look on their faces and know it was all over in less than ten seconds.)
I attached the resume to illustrate the problem. I would have been perfect at the job Frank recommended and have made it to a video interview, but will be surprised, from correspondence with them, if it goes further.
I keep trying, and your well wishes are truly appreciated.
davew
On Wed, Aug 19, 2020, at 11:31 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
> ALL OF IT!!!!
>
> Nicholas Thompson
> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
> Clark University
> [hidden email]
> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Steve Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 10:09 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] viral dose ∝ symptom severity
>
>
> > Aw crap, people. Can't we get Dave out of there!!!!!????
>
> I think he LIKES it there? (bunker in UT)
>
> Or do you mean inside a mask behind plexiglass telling people they cant
> refill their own cups or slop their own mustard (whilst winking)?
>
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > Nicholas Thompson
> > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University
> > [hidden email] https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Prof David West
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 9:54 AM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] viral dose ∝ symptom severity
> >
> > Anecdotal means nothing.
> >
> > Kane County, where I live, recorded its first COVID death last week — 84 year old woman who had been hospitalized prior, with "multiple contributing health issues."
> >
> > Working in the store, I see a couple of thousand people every day. Weekdays, with mostly locals, 80% wear masks. Weekends and holidays 50%+ tourists, mask rate drops to maybe 60%. Interestingly, 80-90 percent of those not wearing masks are the tourists - a large majority of whom are from California and Nevada.Most locals not wearing masks are ranchers and the coal miners - people working outside all day.
> >
> > This week was bow hunting season, and close to zero percent of hunters came in wearing masks. Camo, yes, masks, no.
> >
> > The store rescinded its "no refills" policy this week. And next week is allowing people to put their own condiments, from bulk containers of sliced tomatoes, onions, lettuce, sauce - on their burgers.
> >
> > Employees continue to wear masks except when behind plexiglass at cash register.
> >
> > davew
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 19, 2020, at 9:32 AM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote:
> >> Cloth masks do protect the wearer – breathing in less coronavirus
> >> means you get less sick
> >> https://theconversation.com/cloth-masks-do-protect-the-wearer-breathi
> >> n
> >> g-in-less-coronavirus-means-you-get-less-sick-143726
> >>
> >> And here's her paper in J Gen Intern Med:
> >>
> >> Masks Do More Than Protect Others During COVID-19: Reducing the
> >> Inoculum of SARS-CoV-2 to Protect the Wearer
> >> https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs11606-020-06067-8
> >>
> >> Sooooo, if the right-wingers would simply wear a damned mask, their
> >> open-up and herd immunity arguments would be at least somewhat
> >> defensible ... getting out, getting infected, *with* masks as a way
> >> to increase our collective bio-defense, relatively safely.
> >>
> >> --
> >> ↙↙↙ uǝlƃ
> >>
> >> - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .
> >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn
> >> GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe
> >> http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
> >> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/
> >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/
> >>
> > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .
> > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn
> > GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe
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> >
> >
> > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .
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> > GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe
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