Re: Pragmaticism and puritanism

Posted by Frank Wimberly-2 on
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Nick just sent me a similar question offline.  A compromise might be a)  if you're sneezing and coughing don't come. b) no touching such as handshakes. c) no handing cellphones to others to share e.g. photos. d)  stay home if attendance makes you anxious e) similar common sense policies.

Comments?

Frank

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 11:01 AM Marcus Daniels <[hidden email]> wrote:

Temporary refrigeration for some FRIAM members?  Just until it all blows over? 

On 3/11/20, 9:30 AM, "Friam on behalf of [hidden email]" <[hidden email] on behalf of [hidden email]> wrote:

    Hi Dave,

    Well, at the very least, the kind of information that would convince me to take a somewhat dodgy drug to fend off covid19. 

    N

    Nicholas Thompson
    Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
    Clark University
    [hidden email]
    https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/



    -----Original Message-----
    From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Prof David West
    Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 9:05 AM
    To: [hidden email]
    Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Pragmaticism and puritanism

    May I add — what would convince you that psychedelic experiences are worth of the same kind of investigation as "ordinary" experiences.

    davew


    On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, at 3:18 PM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote:
    > Well, I definitely privilege scientific ways of knowing more than any
    > other way of knowing [†]. So I don't disagree with what you *say*. But
    > it seems to me that *you* don't privilege scientific knowledge in
    > these discussions. You talk a LOT about philosophy and metaphysics,
    > but not much about scientific results. The recent 'round and 'round
    > about "sledgehammers", Peirce's metaphysics, or whatnot, largely
    > ignoring any attempts to discuss psychedelic research and medicine,
    > seems to imply that you do not privilege science.
    >
    > So, maybe if I pull out the old saw again?  If results published in
    > peer-reviewed literature and clinical trial data will NOT convince you
    > that psychedelics can be used as medicine, then what WOULD convince
    > you? If nothing will ever convince you, then you certainly do NOT
    > privilege science.
    >
    >
    > [†] It ain't perfect; and it ain't the only kind of knowledge. But
    > it's the best we have.
    >
    > On 3/10/20 11:03 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
    > > No, I am not sure that Dave and Glen would disagree with any of this.
    >
    > --
    > ☣ uǝlƃ
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