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Temporary refrigeration for some FRIAM members? Just until it all blows over?
On 3/11/20, 9:30 AM, "Friam on behalf of
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Hi Dave,
Well, at the very least, the kind of information that would convince me to take a somewhat dodgy drug to fend off covid19.
N
Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Pragmaticism and puritanism
May I add — what would convince you that psychedelic experiences are worth of the same kind of investigation as "ordinary" experiences.
davew
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, at 3:18 PM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote:
> Well, I definitely privilege scientific ways of knowing more than any
> other way of knowing [†]. So I don't disagree with what you *say*. But
> it seems to me that *you* don't privilege scientific knowledge in
> these discussions. You talk a LOT about philosophy and metaphysics,
> but not much about scientific results. The recent 'round and 'round
> about "sledgehammers", Peirce's metaphysics, or whatnot, largely
> ignoring any attempts to discuss psychedelic research and medicine,
> seems to imply that you do not privilege science.
>
> So, maybe if I pull out the old saw again? If results published in
> peer-reviewed literature and clinical trial data will NOT convince you
> that psychedelics can be used as medicine, then what WOULD convince
> you? If nothing will ever convince you, then you certainly do NOT
> privilege science.
>
>
> [†] It ain't perfect; and it ain't the only kind of knowledge. But
> it's the best we have.
>
> On 3/10/20 11:03 AM,
[hidden email] wrote:
> > No, I am not sure that Dave and Glen would disagree with any of this.
>
> --
> ☣ uǝlƃ
>
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