Re: Re Rant

Posted by Roger Critchlow-2 on Sep 18, 2019; 5:00pm
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/Re-Rant-tp7593549p7593591.html

Sorry, I've been overwhelmed with household tasks lately.

I guess I was mostly entranced by the title of the blog post, baldly asserting that thinking leads to actions.  Does an unexamined inner life lead to bad science?   Gelman is working hard to come up with a generous explanation for why social scientists do so much crappy science and get all defensive when called on it.  Now Nick admits that rooting out the biases that lead scientists into errors and failures to acknowledge errors is a good thing, and he fails to rise to the bait dangled by the title.  So maybe talking as if inner life precedes public actions, like talking as if electrons had desires which were satisfied when chemical bonds were formed, isn't entirely forbidden.

And I didn't mean to disparage Frank's dialogue, but just calling it a post seemed weak.  It reminded me of Galileo's Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems, but it needs more chapters.

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On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 8:57 AM Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Frank has been unfairly accused.  His was an Anti-Rant Quip. 

 

The material Roger cites doesn’t obviously relate  (for me) to Frank’s and my standing argument about the efficacy of inner life.  But its themes, continuity and anti-determinism, are Peirceian themes.  And my respect for Roger is such that I know that he don’t never say somethin’ for nothin’.  So, can somebody explicate?  Perhaps even Roger? 

 

NIck

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 12:20 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] a problem in how we think, not just in how we act

 

Rant??  

 

I am a proponent, in human affairs, of both/and rather than either/or propositions.  In math I use the law of the excluded middle, however.

 

Frank

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Frank Wimberly

My memoir:
https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly

My scientific publications:
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2

Phone [phone]

 

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 10:08 PM Roger Critchlow <[hidden email]> wrote:

It's funny that this should show up twice on my desktop the same day as Frank's rant.

 

https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2019/09/13/deterministic-thinking-dichotomania

 

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