Re: Motives - Was Abduction

Posted by Prof David West on
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Nick,

The definition of persuade begins with "cause (someone) ..." which implies some degree or 'change' e.g. from a current mindset/belief to a modification of same.  Within "groups" you might find persuasion, but across "groups" there is none;, "confirmation bias" and all that.

davew

On Fri, Jan 11, 2019, at 8:03 AM, Nick Thompson wrote:

Geez, Dave.  I might have put it the other way.  People are persuasive as hell; they just aren’t communicating. 

 

But I haven’t been following the thread. 

 

Get back here!  It’s Friday and we need you.

 

Nick

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Prof David West
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

 

"Persuasive" is a term the reviewer used, Adams restricts his analysis to "communication." The two terms are worlds apart. I would claim that no one in politics is persuasive, and given the polarity that exists in political discourse, it is impossible for anyone to be persuasive.

 

davew

 

 

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019, at 6:03 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:

< As to the ethics dimension; you quoted one of Adam's reviewers: "But, when I was in school, we always discussed ethical responsibility of the persuader and Adams does not. As long as Trump was persuasive he was going to win and that’s what matters." >

 

He’s not persuasive.   His arguments are ridiculous and appeal to the stupid and ignorant.   See Alfredo’s post.  

 

Marcus

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