Re: do animals psychologize?

Posted by gepr on Sep 17, 2018; 8:50pm
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/do-animals-psychologize-tp7591762p7591807.html

In an attempt to avoid a descent into arguing about the meanings of words, it seems reasonable enough to say that whatever plants may or may not feel, what they feel will result in wildly different qualia than what we experience.  Right?

So, we don't have to argue about whether plants feel pain.  We can argue about the extent of the similarity between plants' vs. animals' enteroception.

On 09/17/2018 01:37 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:
> So, David,
>
> A tree, when assaulted by caterpillars, alters its physiology to produce toxins (at cost to its growth) and puts out chemicals to alert neighboring trees which do the same.  
>
> On what basis exactly do you assert that trees don't feel pain.  
>
> I stipulate that this question is asked by a person who doesn't think humans "feel pain".  There aren’t two steps, pain and the feeling of it.  


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