Even when the mirror is moved, my dog will periodically check the location where the mirror has *once* been to if her dog acquaintance happens to be around. She’ll scratch on the wall to see if anything responds. It’s been months
since the mirror has been moved and she still tries from time to time.
From: Friam <[hidden email]> on behalf of Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]>
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Date: Monday, September 17, 2018 at 11:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] do animals psychologize?
Does this animal psychologize
https://www.facebook.com/wedontdeserveanimalsDM/videos/565874183831502/
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On Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 11:53 AM Marcus Daniels <[hidden email]> wrote:
I would say this relates to the reality (or not) of first-world problems. Humans that thrive in the first world must form (or be educated to acquire) higher-order representations. Psychologizing is one process that leads to higher-order representations. In an artificial deep neural network, the neurons in the higher layers represent more and more abstract interpretations of inputs that have be presented, but it can take hundreds of thousands of neurons and dozens of layers.
One might imagine pets that have fewer neurons and less connectivity amongst neurons could still develop higher-level representations provided that these adaptations did not interfere with other essential information processing functions -- keeping in mind the most important function for a pet is probably anticipating the meaning of human signals.
Anyway, we'll make great pets.
Marcus
On 9/17/18, 11:30 AM, "Friam on behalf of Nick Thompson" <[hidden email] on behalf of [hidden email]> wrote:
Yes, Glen and Marcus. Very interesting.
But, "Do animals psychologize?"
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Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
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From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 10:57 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] do animals psychologize?
Glen writes:
"Even in your example, we might notice that even though there are N licenses
doled out, the deer population continues to rise. It would be
over-intervention to simply issue more licenses. Perhaps the people getting
the licenses are mostly an aging population who don't hunt much anymore but
have some semi-automated approach to getting a license?"
A population estimation input comes from tagging stations relative to issued
licenses by category of deer, so they can & do close-the-loop by way of
enforcement.
The population estimation techniques require some assumptions, of course.
Marcus
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